Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Horribly low resolution album artwork w/ TinySC and 7.5.1

2010-06-17 Thread JohnSwenson

danull;555470 Wrote: 
 Not super big deal...of course I got the portable USB drive expressly so
 I wouldn't need a computer.  Also those of us without thousands of posts
 are a little more afraid of beta code, I suspect :-D - especially when
 there is no guarantee this will fix it.
 
 I got the nightly build of 7.6 on and it is scanning...wish me luck 
 ;-)

There is another way to do it. You can download the firmware you wish
and put it on a USB stick or SD card under a specific name. Then reboot
the Touch and go to software upgrade and you will have an option to
upgrade to the firmware on the media.

See this post for details:

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=550584#post550584


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Horribly low resolution album artwork w/ TinySC and 7.5.1

2010-06-17 Thread danull

Thanks for info about trick to get 7.6.0 via USB/SD card.

Anyway, I moved to 7.6.0 and still have the same problem.   

I do not know how to explain it working for andyg but not me since he
used my directory.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Horribly low resolution album artwork w/ TinySC and 7.5.1

2010-06-17 Thread danull

Phil Leigh;555602 Wrote: 
 This is a bit of a long shot, but what file system is on your USB drive?
 FAT32/NTFS?

NTFS - it is a Western Digital Elements 640 GB USB 2.0 portable drive.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Horribly low resolution album artwork w/ TinySC and 7.5.1

2010-06-17 Thread Phil Leigh

danull;555607 Wrote: 
 Presently NTFS - it is a Western Digital Elements 640 GB USB 2.0
 portable drive.
 
 I did quickformat it yesterday and not sure what it was before that
 when I first started seeing the issue / may have been FAT before that
 but I'm not sure.
 
 -Dan

There was a bug in beta whereby the alpha sort of files from the
filesystem was case sensitive... as I said, it was a long shot...

No idea what you are seeing. Artwork continues to look fine to me on
7.6 nightlies (since forever)...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Horribly low resolution album artwork w/ TinySC and 7.5.1

2010-06-17 Thread danull

Phil Leigh;555611 Wrote: 
 There was a bug in beta whereby the alpha sort of files from the
 filesystem was case sensitive... as I said, it was a long shot...
 
 No idea what you are seeing. Artwork continues to look fine to me on
 7.6 nightlies (since forever)...

The thing that confuses me is that AndyG said with embedded image
(600x600 in my case) it will always be used... so wouldn't expect it to
be picking up my lower resolution small album artwork resident in the
same directories... anyway I removed the AlbumArtSmall.jpg and the
other Small resolution image for 3 of my albums and another scan is in
progress...

On one hand my fingers are crossed on the other I don't know what I'm
going to do if this resolves it...surely there is a reason for the
small artwork that was created (I guess when I ripped these with
Windows Media Player?) ... also might take me eons just to remove those
if that's the answer...

Will keep you posted :D


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Horribly low resolution album artwork w/ TinySC and 7.5.1

2010-06-17 Thread Phil Leigh

danull;555617 Wrote: 
 The thing that confuses me is that AndyG said with embedded image
 (600x600 in my case) it will always be used... so wouldn't expect it to
 be picking up my lower resolution small album artwork resident in the
 same directories... anyway I removed the AlbumArtSmall.jpg and the
 other Small resolution image for 3 of my albums and another scan is in
 progress...
 
 On one hand my fingers are crossed on the other I don't know what I'm
 going to do if this resolves it...surely there is a reason for the
 small artwork that was created (I guess when I ripped these with
 Windows Media Player?) ... also might take me eons just to remove those
 if that's the answer...
 
 Will keep you posted :D

I guess the thing is that SBS doesn't need the small artwork - just
cover.jpg.
If it turns out you have to get rid of the other .jpg files that's
really easy..


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Horribly low resolution album artwork w/ TinySC and 7.5.1

2010-06-17 Thread danull

Sure enough, removing AlbumArtSmall.jpg and the other
AlbumArt_{6D2583BF-582C-4668-9AE5-2E29F8500FE7}_Small.jpg from the 3
directories fixed my problem for the 3 albums I removed small album art
for.

So I guess my claim is that TinySC even on 7.6.0 is not using the
embedded art instead of .jpg images in the directory, and it is not
using files based on normal sorting by name (because
AlbumArt_{6D2583BF-582C-4668-9AE5-2E29F8500FE7}_Large.jpg would be used
rather than Small.jpg if that were the case).

I do not know how to explain this working for andyg unless NTFS / WD
Elements USB drive is somehow involved?

So I guess I have two questions for those who have been kind enough to
provide me feedback:

1) Will I hurt anything by deleting all the small album artwork across
the board?  i.e. Ipeng for his little images he will be OK and just
scale down larger artwork, right?   In other words - is it safe for me
to remove small album art across the board to sidestep this issue or
will it give me grief somewhere else later?

2) Should I be opening a bug on bugs.slimdevices.com or not bother
because I'm apparently the only person seeing it on TinySC and is
unlikely to be fixed anytime soon anyway (assuming you even agree it is
a bug!)  ???

Thank you for your help so far,

-Dan


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Horribly low resolution album artwork w/ TinySC and 7.5.1

2010-06-17 Thread JJZolx

danull;555667 Wrote: 
 
 AlbumArt_{6D2583BF-582C-4668-9AE5-2E29F8500FE7}_Small.jpg

What exactly is that file?  Did you create it with that name for some
reason or was it some automated download program?

 1) Will I hurt anything by deleting all the small album artwork across
 the board?  i.e. Ipeng for his little images he will be OK and just
 scale down larger artwork, right?   In other words - is it safe for me
 to remove small album art across the board to sidestep this issue or
 will it give me grief somewhere else later?

No, I'm pretty certain that iPeng either gets resized images from the
server or resizes them itself.  AlbumArtSmall hasn't been used by the
server for a number of years now.

BTW, you should be able to easily find and delete these by doing a
search in Windows Explorer.  Do a search for albumart* and then you can
delete any or all of the files found from within the right hand window
of the search.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Horribly low resolution album artwork w/ TinySC and 7.5.1

2010-06-17 Thread danull

JJZolx;555673 Wrote: 
 What exactly is that file?  Did you create it with that name for some
 reason or was it some automated download program?
 

It is created automatically by Windows Media Player when you rip music
from CD.  I have ripped most of my 1400 albums in WMA 192 KBps.   Don't
ask me why I know about Lossless etc - trying not to invite any
snarky comments from FLACheads  :D

JJZolx;555673 Wrote: 
 
 No, I'm pretty certain that iPeng either gets resized images from the
 server or resizes them itself.  AlbumArtSmall hasn't been used by the
 server for a number of years now.
 
 BTW, you should be able to easily find and delete these by doing a
 search in Windows Explorer.  Do a search for albumart* and then you can
 delete any or all of the files found from within the right hand window
 of the search.

Thanks for the tip - if/when I remove the files I will give that a
shot.

-Dan


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Horribly low resolution album artwork w/ TinySC and 7.5.1

2010-06-16 Thread andyg

If you don't have one of the standard image filenames in the directory
like cover.jpg or folder.jpg it will pick the first one alphabetically.
Maybe that's the problem?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Horribly low resolution album artwork w/ TinySC and 7.5.1

2010-06-16 Thread danull

andyg,

Thanks for the response.  

In the case of Natalee Merchant's Tigerlilyalbum for example I do have
a cover.jpg in the directory along with the other images - but it is
not showing artwork at that higher 500x500 resolution (looks a lt
worse than that).

-Dan


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Horribly low resolution album artwork w/ TinySC and 7.5.1

2010-06-16 Thread andyg

Would you mind uploading the directory so I can try and reproduce?  You
would only need to include 1 audio file and all the images.

http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Large_File_Upload


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Horribly low resolution album artwork w/ TinySC and 7.5.1

2010-06-16 Thread danull

I appreciate you taking a look!  

I put Data for Forum Thread 79726 For AndyG.zip into /incoming -
deleted all audio files except for one prior to zipping.

Please let me know if I can assist in any other way...

-Dan


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Horribly low resolution album artwork w/ TinySC and 7.5.1

2010-06-16 Thread andyg

OK looks fine, the mp3 file has an embedded image so that will always be
used and none of the image files in the directory will be used.  The
image looks fine to me, it came from Amazon and is the usual 600x600. 
The actual quality of the image kinda sucks but I guess that's how this
album looks.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Horribly low resolution album artwork w/ TinySC and 7.5.1

2010-06-16 Thread danull

andyg,

For giggles I just took a screenshot using SHIFT-PRT SC and uploaded
the zipped BMP to /incoming as Data No. 2 for Forum Thread 79726 For
AndyG.zip.

This is a screenshot of Squeezeplay on my Netbook - it visually looks
just as bad on iPeng and my Squeezebox Radio (certainly no 600x600 if
you're saying that's what is embedded).

-Dan


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Horribly low resolution album artwork w/ TinySC and 7.5.1

2010-06-16 Thread andyg

Yeah that looks pretty bad, I'll look into it some more.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Horribly low resolution album artwork w/ TinySC and 7.5.1

2010-06-16 Thread andyg

I tested that album using TinySC under 7.6.0, and the artwork appears
correctly.  It's possible the issue is already fixed.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Horribly low resolution album artwork w/ TinySC and 7.5.1

2010-06-16 Thread danull

I know about the nightly builds but not sure how to update the SBS when
it is on the Touch to see if 7.6.0 fixes this issue (the nightly builds
etc appear to be windows installables).

In the meantime, I stopped SBS on the Touch and am trying a wipe and
rescan to see if that makes any difference... looked for this option
earlier but I guess SBS has to be stopped first before it appears.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Horribly low resolution album artwork w/ TinySC and 7.5.1

2010-06-16 Thread danull

Oh I guess can't do nightly build unless I connect Touch to a computer:

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77394highlight=touch+nightly+build

Anyway, gave up on wipe and rescan after about 45 minutes because it
still said it was removing the old stuff/not making progress.

Found this thread:

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79198highlight=wipe+rescan

Looks like Wipe and Rescan might not be any good on 7.5.1?

So I attached the drive to my netbook and deleted the .Squeezebox
folder and when I reattached the USB device it went through the
discovery process and complete re-scan.

Afterward, album artwork is still hosed.

Sounds like my only option now is to figure out how to move to 7.6.0...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Horribly low resolution album artwork w/ TinySC and 7.5.1

2010-06-16 Thread JJZolx

Right.  Is connecting the Touch to a computer a big deal?  To get 7.6.0
firmware on the Touch you need to install Squeezebox Server 7.6.0 on a
computer (with internet access) on your network.  It will download new
firmware from the 7.6 branch and you'll get an update notification on
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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Horribly low resolution album artwork w/ TinySC and 7.5.1

2010-06-16 Thread Mnyb

No hidden thumbs.jpg that gets picked up ?
No likewise hidden temp files in those directories I don't know if ~
sorts before a

files are in one folder per album ?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Horribly low resolution album artwork w/ TinySC and 7.5.1

2010-06-16 Thread danull

JJZolx;555462 Wrote: 
 Right.  Is connecting the Touch to a computer a big deal?  To get 7.6.0
 firmware on the Touch you need to install Squeezebox Server 7.6.0 on a
 computer (with internet access) on your network.  It will download new
 firmware from the 7.6 branch and you'll get an update notification on
 the Touch.

Not super big deal...of course I got the portable USB drive expressly
so I wouldn't need a computer.  Also those of us without thousands of
posts are a little more afraid of beta code, I suspect :-D - especially
when there is no guarantee this will fix it.

I got the nightly build of 7.6 on and it is scanning...wish me luck 
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