Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Logitech Media Server dies

2019-10-21 Thread garym


NovaNed wrote: 
> I may be wrong but doesn't the Touch only support the 802.11b (or maybe
> g) WiFi protocol? I'm no expert on WiFi but I assume that this older
> specification lacks signal strength when compared to the latter n and
> a/ac capabilities.
> 
> Sent from my CLT-L04 using Tapatalk
> 
> Mine has always been rock solid but it's located only twelve feet from
> my WiFi router which probably explains why.

Correct. Only supports 802.11b and g.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Logitech Media Server dies

2019-10-20 Thread NovaNed


DaveSch wrote: 
> I don't know what "Homeplugs" are.
> 
> I'm not saying that wi-fi doesn't reach that part of the house - other
> wi-fi devices work in that location.
> Perhaps the Touch requires a stronger signal than other devices.
> 
> Dave S.I may be wrong but doesn't the Touch only support the 802.11b (or maybe
g) WiFi protocol? I'm no expert on WiFi but I assume that this older
specification lacks signal strength when compared to the latter n and
a/ac capabilities.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Logitech Media Server dies

2019-10-11 Thread Phil168


My touch seems to work OK on random play with about 9000 songs on a
powered hard drive plugged in the back. One thing you might want to
check are the titles (and tags) of your files. I was once having trouble
with colons and accents and hashes in the titles. Once they were removed
it worked better.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Logitech Media Server dies

2019-09-22 Thread DaveSch


Tex wrote: 
> Hi Dave 
> 
> I may be wrong but I believe the 100 song limit still holds for random
> mix. You might read this.
> 
> http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Random_Mix

Thanks for that link, Tex.
My understanding of that article is that it uses a 100 song playlist to
achieve a random mix, and the server manages the list by adding and
dropping songs.
It seems to be describing an earlier version of randomizing, because it
talks about finding the function under plugins.
My menu doesn't have it under plugins.

Dave S.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Logitech Media Server dies

2019-09-19 Thread Tex


Hi Dave 

I may be wrong but I believe the 100 song limit still holds for random
mix. You might read this.

http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Random_Mix



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Logitech Media Server dies

2019-09-18 Thread bpa


If the OP is using TinyLMS (and not an externa LMS) which is the inbuilt
LMS of a Touch - then the problem is most likely the underpowered and
memory deficient Touch system.  

IIRC TinyLMS struggles on the Touch as it is only capable of handling
relatively small libraries and trying to do Random play on the whole
library may be too much for it.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Logitech Media Server dies

2019-09-18 Thread Jeff07971


DaveSch wrote: 
> I don't know what "Homeplugs" are.
> 
> I'm not saying that wi-fi doesn't reach that part of the house - other
> wi-fi devices work in that location.
> Perhaps the Touch requires a stronger signal than other devices.
> 
> Dave S.

"Homeplugs"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power-line_communication



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Logitech Media Server dies

2019-09-18 Thread DaveSch


slartibartfast wrote: 
> My Touch and two Radios are all on WiFi. If WiFi doesn't work well for
> you could try Homeplugs.
> 
> Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

I don't know what "Homeplugs" are.

I'm not saying that wi-fi doesn't reach that part of the house - other
wi-fi devices work in that location.
Perhaps the Touch requires a stronger signal than other devices.

Dave S.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Logitech Media Server dies

2019-09-18 Thread slartibartfast


DaveSch wrote: 
> I've tried that and found it unreliable.
> Have you tried it?
> 
> Dave S.My Touch and two Radios are all on WiFi. If WiFi doesn't work well for
you could try Homeplugs.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Logitech Media Server dies

2019-09-18 Thread DaveSch


slartibartfast wrote: 
> You don't need to run an Ethernet cable to the Touch. It can connect
> using WiFi.
> 
> Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

I've tried that and found it unreliable.
Have you tried it?

Dave S.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Logitech Media Server dies

2019-09-17 Thread slartibartfast


DaveSch wrote: 
> I'd like to do that, but I just can't see a way to get ethernet cable
> from my computer to the Touch.
> The Touch is on my stereo cabinet which is located against an outside
> wall.
> Going through the basement doesn't provide an easy way to come back up
> that wall.
> 
> Dave S.You don't need to run an Ethernet cable to the Touch. It can connect
using WiFi.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Logitech Media Server dies

2019-09-17 Thread DaveSch


JohnB wrote: 
> This mght have nothing to do with the problem but is your USB drive
> powered from the USB connection (rather than mains power). If so I'd try
> connecting it via a powered hub, just to eliminate one possibility.
> 
> (I'm always a bit nervous about powering USB hard drives through USB
> connections - just me.)
> 
> Personally, I'd run LMS on something else and use the Touch as a player,
> but it's your decision.

I'd like to do that, but I just can't see a way to get ethernet cable
from my computer to the Touch.
The Touch is on my stereo cabinet which is located against an outside
wall.
Going through the basement doesn't provide an easy way to come back up
that wall.

Dave S.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Logitech Media Server dies

2019-09-17 Thread DaveSch


Tex wrote: 
> Hi Dave 
> 
> Just to be sure you read the section about the 100 song limitation in a
> play list.

Yeah, I'm not using playlists on the Touch.
I like Random Songs. (Except when it picks Christmas music).

Dave S.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Logitech Media Server dies

2019-09-17 Thread Tex


Hi Dave 

Just to be sure you read the section about the 100 song limitation in a
play list.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Logitech Media Server dies

2019-09-17 Thread edwin2006


Agree with John, run lms on something else (raspberry pi with
picoreplayer)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Logitech Media Server dies

2019-09-17 Thread DaveSch


OK, four days since I put in a powered hub, and it worked fine until
today.
"Locan Music Server Stopped".
Same as before.
Now I restart Logitech Media Server on the Touch and I'll be good for
another random length of time.
Is this the best I can expect, or is there something else I should do?

Dave S.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Logitech Media Server dies

2019-09-13 Thread Tex


I could share my problems with wifi but it sounds like you have your
own.
I would recommend a powered external drive with a fair amount of
capacity. 
Reading the troubleshooting section it seems you have a one percent rule
for the TinySC to exist on. Not sure how much space your music files
occupy. 
Reading people's experiences with using the Touch server most complained
about it being under powered.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Logitech Media Server dies

2019-09-13 Thread DaveSch


JohnB wrote: 
> This mght have nothing to do with the problem but is your USB drive
> powered from the USB connection (rather than mains power). If so I'd try
> connecting it via a powered hub, just to eliminate one possibility.
> 
> (I'm always a bit nervous about powering USB hard drives through USB
> connections - just me.)
> 
> Personally, I'd run LMS on something else and use the Touch as a player,
> but it's your decision.

Sure, but what's the favoured way of connecting computer to Touch?
It's too difficult to get an ethernet cable connection to the location
of my music system.
Wi-fi was unreliable, worked sometimes, but often broke.
Powerline adapter worked longer, but more recently I experienced IP
issues.

I will now try connecting the hard drive through a powered hub.

Dave S.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Logitech Media Server dies

2019-09-13 Thread DaveSch


Tex wrote: 
> Hi Dave
> 
> You might include what version of LMS and the hardware involved. Then
> you might include the Media server log files. Then I am sure some one
> could help.
> Sorry I just noticed the comment about the USB drive. I believe the
> drive itself might be the problem. If you get the log files some one
> might be able to see.
> You might read this that might explain the song list limitation.
> 
> http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Squeezebox_Touch_as_a_Home_Music_Server#Maximum_Playlist_Length_is_100_Tracks
> 
> http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Troubleshooting_Squeezebox_Touch_Server

Thanks for those links, Tex.
I'm not aware of a way to get Media server log files. 
I'm (now) aware that if I use the term Logitech Media Server, that
people think it's running on a computer, rather than the Touch.
I will now try the powered hub idea.

In the past, I did have my music database on the computer, but had
trouble with 1) the wi-fi connection between computer and Touch and 2) a
powerline adapter connecting these devices was also not stable.

Dave S.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Logitech Media Server dies

2019-09-13 Thread JohnB


This mght have nothing to do with the problem but is your USB drive
powered from the USB connection (rather than mains power). If so I'd try
connecting it via a powered hub, just to eliminate one possibility.

(I'm always a bit nervous about powering USB hard drives through USB
connections - just me.)

Personally, I'd run LMS on something else and use the Touch as a player,
but it's your decision.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Logitech Media Server dies

2019-09-13 Thread slartibartfast


Tex wrote: 
> Hi Dave
> 
> You might include what version of LMS and the hardware involved. Then
> you might include the Media server log files. Then I am sure some one
> could help.From the post it sounds like he is using the built in server in the
Touch, not LMS.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Logitech Media Server dies

2019-09-13 Thread Tex


Hi Dave

You might include what version of LMS and the hardware involved. Then
you might include the Media server log files. Then I am sure some one
could help.



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[SlimDevices: Touch] Logitech Media Server dies

2019-09-13 Thread DaveSch


I use my Touch with a USB hard drive plugged in and my entire music
collection is on this drive.
When I restart Logitech Media Server and set it to play random songs, it
will do that for a few hours, sometimes a few days. Then I'll get
silence.
First thing I try is to skip to the next song >>
Sometimes that works.
What causes it to stop at the end of a song?

Second problem: LMS stops, and then I tell it to restart, it takes some
time to do this, and then allows me to play again. Why does it keep
stopping?
Is there a limit on the number of songs I can have on the hard drive? I
have about 7,500.

Dave S.



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