Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Question about using web remote control

2010-04-17 Thread crimscrem

JJZolx;536400 Wrote: 
 I just use Windows Explorer.  The Touch should appear under My Network
 Places  Microsoft Windows Networks  Workgroup.  At least that's where
 it appears on my XP Pro computer.  Other versions of Windows may be
 organized differently, but you should be able to find it through
 Windows Explorer.  Then just drag and drop, delete files, whatever you
 normally do with local Windows files.
 
 For some reason, sometimes the Touch doesn't show up in the workgroup
 and I have to goose it a little.  In the address bar enter
 
 \\Squeezebox Touch\logs
 
 and substitute the name that you've given to the Touch for 'Squeezebox
 Touch'.The Touch with all of it's shares should then appear in
 Explorer.  The USB and SD card shares are prefixed with 'media-'.

Thank you!  I was able to get in.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Question about using web remote control

2010-04-16 Thread crimscrem

aah, finally got it to work.  Of course, user error.  I did not
properly install Squeezeplay.  Thank you all who responded!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Question about using web remote control

2010-04-16 Thread garym

crimscrem;535954 Wrote: 
 aah, finally got it to work.  Of course, user error.  I did not
 properly install Squeezeplay.  Thank you all who responded!

Great. Lot's to learn to fully use all the options. But it sounds like
you're off to a good start and listening to music (the main point!).
Play with it for a while and then post questions when you run into
things you don't understand. As you can see, this is a helpful group.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Question about using web remote control

2010-04-16 Thread crimscrem

garym;536016 Wrote: 
 Great. Lot's to learn to fully use all the options. But it sounds like
 you're off to a good start and listening to music (the main point!).
 Play with it for a while and then post questions when you run into
 things you don't understand. As you can see, this is a helpful group.

Very good group of people and very helpful.  Thank you.  I got this
because I wanted the 24/96 capabilities with FLAC.  And I didn't want
to have to turn on my projector every time to listen to music (I was
going through PS3mediaserver and the PS3).  I think I'll ultimately get
an Ipod Touch to use as a controller.

Now I need to figure out why certain songs and albums show up twice and
why there are dead spots in some of my files.  I used db poweramp to rip
them.  I'll have to check that attaching the HD to my laptop instead of
the Touch.  Might be my next set of questions.  ;)

Thanks again to all!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Question about using web remote control

2010-04-16 Thread garym

adamdea;536189 Wrote: 
 Apologies if this question seems daft: but can you use Ipeng or some
 toher program to control via iphone a touch via which is running as a
 squeezeserver with a usb drive attached and no external server.

yes, ipeng on an iphone/itouch OR squeezeplay running on a computer in
the same network as the touch (and within Squeezeplay, select the TOUCH
as the player). Squeezeplay is both a software PlAYER and a controller
for other players.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Question about using web remote control

2010-04-16 Thread crimscrem

JJZolx;536238 Wrote: 
 Samba is always running (sharing the system's log files), but you have
 to enable the sharing of the attached drive or SD card.
 
 Settings  Advanced  USB  SD Storage  Sharing  Enable Sharing
 
 You might also clear the sharing password while you're at it if you
 don't need the extra security of password protecting the share.

What program do you use on the laptop to access the documents on the HD
attached to the Touch?  The squeezebox server?  I have mine set to
enable sharing.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Question about using web remote control

2010-04-16 Thread JJZolx

crimscrem;536395 Wrote: 
 What program do you use on the laptop to access the documents on the HD
 attached to the Touch?  The squeezebox server?  I have mine set to
 enable sharing.

I just use Windows Explorer.  The Touch should appear under My Network
Places  Microsoft Windows Networks  Workgroup.  At least that's where
it appears on my XP Pro computer.  Other versions of Windows may be
organized differently, but you should be able to find it through
Windows Explorer.  Then just drag and drop, delete files, whatever you
normally do with local Windows files.

For some reason, sometimes the Touch doesn't show up in the workgroup
and I have to goose it a little.  In the address bar enter

\\Squeezebox Touch\logs

and substitute the name that you've given to the Touch for 'Squeezebox
Touch'.The Touch with all of it's shares should then appear in
Explorer.  The USB and SD card shares are prefixed with 'media-'.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Question about using web remote control

2010-04-15 Thread aubuti

Wireless or ethernet shouldn't matter. What server are you trying to
use, mysqueezebox.com or a local SBS server? If a local SBS server, are
you using the SBS that is built-in to the Touch, or one running on a
computer or NAS? If you are using the Touch's built-in SBS, it does not
support the web browser interface.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Question about using web remote control

2010-04-15 Thread garym

Are you running SqueezeboxServer on a computer or are you using the
built in SbS software inside the TOUCH. If you are using the SbS in the
touch (i.e., no other computer running with SbS), then there is NO web
interface.  However, you can install SqueezePlay and then select the
touch as a player and control from your computer (where you are running
squeezeplay). Or control with iPENG on an iphone/itouch, etc.

Download Squeezeplay here:
http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/?ver=7.5


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Question about using web remote control

2010-04-15 Thread crimscrem

aubuti;535845 Wrote: 
 Wireless or ethernet shouldn't matter. What server are you trying to
 use, mysqueezebox.com or a local SBS server? If a local SBS server, are
 you using the SBS that is built-in to the Touch, or one running on a
 computer or NAS? If you are using the Touch's built-in SBS, it does not
 support the web browser interface.

I downloaded the squeezebox server 7.5 version.  I'm new to all of this
so I'm not sure what you mean by local SBS server.  

I should have provided more information in my original email.  I
apologize for not doing so.

I have an external hard drive connected to my Touch.  My touch is hard
wired to my internet.

I have a laptop that I want to use to control the music play on the
touch (like a remote control).  

I have downloaded squeezebox server and am running it.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Question about using web remote control

2010-04-15 Thread garym

OK. let's take it one step at a time. 

First, any squeezebox product needs to talk with a squeezeboxserver
(SbS). There are basically two ways to do this.  One is to run a local
version of SbS. A second approach is to connect to the network
version of Sbs, which is now called mysqueezebox.com (mysb.com). If
you are using the network, mysqueezebox.com approach, you can only do
things like listen to internet radio, pandora, etc. You can't listen to
your own music files if strictly connected to mysb.com. So I assume you
want to listen to your own music. But even if using your local SbS,
you'll still need to sign up for a mysb.com account. Within your local
computer SbS, you'll need to add those credentials (SbS  Settings 
mysqueezebox.com tab). 

The Touch does add a twist. The local SbS can now either be on a
computer within your home network or the TOUCH itself runs a limited
version of the SbS server. I don't have a TOUCH yet, but you should
just have to plug your USB drive into the TOUCH and give it some time
to scan the drive adding the tracks to the internal SbS system.

You can switch back and forth to (1) mysb.com (2) SbS on your local
network computer or (3) SbS on the Touch. No need for (1) because as
long as you are running SbS locally (own computer or the touch) you get
all the same mysb.com stuff.

It sounds like you are trying to use the internal SbS software on the
touch AND you've installed SbS on a local computer. Make a decision
about which approach you prefer. Using the internal touch SbS means you
don't need your computer on 24/7. But accessing the Touch via the web is
slightly more complicated.

With this background, let us know a little more about what you're
trying to do, what errors, if any you're getting, etc. and folks here
can help.  

p.s. welcome to the forums. You'll find it useful.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Question about using web remote control

2010-04-15 Thread lrossouw

Sounds like you are running the server on the Touch itself and not
really using the server on the PC.  Quick way to check it is to see if
music still works if the PC with the server is off.

The server on the touch doesn't require the PC server to be available,
but as the touch is not as powerful as a PC some server features are
disabled, such as web interface.  IF you want to continue this
arrangement you can still download other 3rd party controllers AFAIK
such as the ones that work on mobiles such as iPeng on the iPhone.  You
can also use squeezeplay (beta software) to control your touch from a
PC. SqueezePlay is semi-supported software that basically runs a Touch
on your pc.  (You can also uninstall the server from your PC as you
don't need it in this way of working)

The other option is to use the server on the PC as well as put the
music on the PC (or connect the USB drive to the PC) and then some more
features are available to you such as the web interface and more
plugins.  The disadvantage is that you have to have your PC on to
listen to music files.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Question about using web remote control

2010-04-15 Thread crimscrem

garym;535857 Wrote: 
 OK. let's take it one step at a time. 
 
 First, any squeezebox product needs to talk with a squeezeboxserver
 (SbS). There are basically two ways to do this.  One is to run a local
 version of SbS. A second approach is to connect to the network
 version of Sbs, which is now called mysqueezebox.com (mysb.com). If
 you are using the network, mysqueezebox.com approach, you can only do
 things like listen to internet radio, pandora, etc. You can't listen to
 your own music files if strictly connected to mysb.com. So I assume you
 want to listen to your own music. But even if using your local SbS,
 you'll still need to sign up for a mysb.com account. Within your local
 computer SbS, you'll need to add those credentials (SbS  Settings 
 mysqueezebox.com tab). 
 
 The Touch does add a twist. The local SbS can now either be on a
 computer within your home network or the TOUCH itself runs a limited
 version of the SbS server. I don't have a TOUCH yet, but you should
 just have to plug your USB drive into the TOUCH and give it some time
 to scan the drive adding the tracks to the internal SbS system.
 
 You can switch back and forth to (1) mysb.com (2) SbS on your local
 network computer or (3) SbS on the Touch. No need for (1) because as
 long as you are running SbS locally (own computer or the touch) you get
 all the same mysb.com stuff.
 
 It sounds like you are trying to use the internal SbS software on the
 touch AND you've installed SbS on a local computer. Make a decision
 about which approach you prefer. Using the internal touch SbS means you
 don't need your computer on 24/7. But accessing the Touch via the web is
 slightly more complicated.
 
 With this background, let us know a little more about what you're
 trying to do, what errors, if any you're getting, etc. and folks here
 can help.  
 
 p.s. welcome to the forums. You'll find it useful.

Thank you for the welcome and your prompt advice.  I am able to connect
to mysqueezebox now.  Went through settings to switch to mysqueezebox. 
So I'm able to get internet radio through mysqueezebox remote on my
laptop.  And as you said, I could not get to any of my music on the
external hard drive.

What I'd like to be able to do is have the option of
playing/controlling my music stored on the external hard drive with my
laptop.  How do I do that?  Thank you.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Question about using web remote control

2010-04-15 Thread JJZolx

It sounds like you're going off in a couple different directions here.

If you want to attach a USB drive to the Touch and use its built-in
Squeezebox Server, you can do that.  It won't require a computer to be
running for you to listen to your own music library.  But you will have
_no_ web interface, because the server that runs on the Touch doesn't
have one.

Or you can run Squeezebox Server on a PC.  That server _does_ have a
web interface.  Your music library will have be on a disc inside or
attached to that PC, or possibly on an NAS or network file server.  It
can't see the music on the USB drive attached to the Touch (actually,
it might be able to, but there would be a very large performance
penalty and there's no reason to this when you could simply attach that
same USB drive to your PC).


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Question about using web remote control

2010-04-15 Thread lrossouw

Hi

Option 1

You can control the touch playing music off the attached hard drive
using squeezeplay from the PC. However in this configuration there is
no webserver running as the Touch is not as powerful as a PC. 
SqueezePlay can connect to the server on running on the touch directly
talk to it to show the music that is playing etc.  You should also be
able to listen to music available on the touch using squeezeplay on
your pc.  I have to add that squeezeplay is not really supported so
doesn't always work 100%. 

The webpage you are seeing is coming from the server running on your
PC. You don't need to run this in the above configuration.  

Option 2

If your music is moved to the PC then you need the server there.  You
can then tell the touch to connect to the PC server and play music from
there.  In this setup the touch should be visable on the web page and
you would be able to control it thus.  You could also still use
squeezeplay in this scenario.

Moose (windows app by 3rd party) should also allow you to control
players.  I think it should work with both options though I've only
tried it on option 2.  And then there is also the mobile apps.

Cheers
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