Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Recommended decoder settings for best sound quality
WKB;549019 Wrote: Forgive my ignorance but what is the path to the file types page ? SBS Settings Advanced File Types -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78771 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Recommended decoder settings for best sound quality
Phil Leigh;548971 Wrote: Andy's right. I sure as hell can't hear any difference and I've tried my best to measure any (I know you can measure things you can't hear - I simply don't subscribe to the school of thought that you can hear things that can't be measured!). As far as I am personally concerned, none of the following make any difference to the S/PDIF output of the Touch into my DAC: 1) wireless vs wired 2) streaming wav vs flac 3) alternate power supplies or mains filters/conditioning 4) vibration (treatments) 5) s/pdif cables ymmv Ok thanks Phil. -- Ali Tait Ali Tait's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37387 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78771 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Recommended decoder settings for best sound quality
toby10;549193 Wrote: SBS Settings Advanced File Types Hi, I have a Squeezebox touch 7.5.1 and there's not File Types menu entry under Advanced ??? -- enestu enestu's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37825 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78771 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Recommended decoder settings for best sound quality
Ali Tait;548960 Wrote: That's me told! Andy's right. I sure as hell can't hear any difference and I've tried my best to measure any (I know you can measure things you can't hear - I simply don't subscribe to the school of thought that you can hear things that can't be measured!). As far as I am personally concerned, none of the following make any difference to the S/PDIF output of the Touch into my DAC: 1) wireless vs wired 2) streaming wav vs flac 3) alternate power supplies or mains filters/conditioning 4) vibration (treatments) 5) s/pdif cables ymmv -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78771 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Recommended decoder settings for best sound quality
Forgive my ignorance but what is the path to the file types page ? -- WKB WKB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20630 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78771 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Recommended decoder settings for best sound quality
rossb;548489 Wrote: I have changed the settings for PCM decoding of FLAC as suggested and, while it may be placebo effect, there seems to be a slight improvement in sound quality through the Stello DA100 Signature DAC. It may also just be wishful thinking. However, it does not seem to solve the problem on start-up of 24/96 files, which still take a few seconds to buffer properly. Hi I changed this last night and it has cured the 24/96 stuttering for me. Which version of SBS are you using, and are you streaming from your PC or Touch? Richard -- Tripmaster Tripmaster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33519 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78771 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Recommended decoder settings for best sound quality
I take it changing the settings would make no difference for me since I'm using a Drobo plugged directly into the Touch? -- Ali Tait Ali Tait's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37387 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78771 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Recommended decoder settings for best sound quality
The default settings shipped with the server are the best, obviously. Don't over-think it and just leave it alone. :) -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78771 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Recommended decoder settings for best sound quality
Phil Leigh;548114 Wrote: Correct. FLAC-PCM has no SOX in the loop (by default) so auto-downsampling to 24/96 will not take place. Yes, therefor we need the Touch to become 24/192 compatible. From the other thread (hijacked by the off-topic DSD issues) as I understand from JohnSwenson this could be very doable. -- MrRalph Meridian 506.24, Squeezebox Touch, Technics SL-1210 M5G KAB + Phonoclone, DIY amplifiers, Linkwitz Orions+ incl Thors, Sennheiser HD650 + PPAv2 headphone amp MrRalph's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22078 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78771 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Recommended decoder settings for best sound quality
MrRalph;548313 Wrote: Yes, therefor we need the Touch to become 24/192 compatible. From the other thread (hijacked by the off-topic DSD issues) as I understand from JohnSwenson this could be very doable. If you are running SBS on a server (rather than TinySC) you can still use SOX with WAV... I said by default - but with some editing of the custom-convert.conf file it can be done. I don't agree with JS that streaming WAV sounds better than streaming flac. I guess I'm just one of those who can neither hear or measure any difference :-) As for hearing any benefit of native 24/192 over 24/96 via SOX... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78771 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Recommended decoder settings for best sound quality
I have changed the settings for PCM decoding of FLAC as suggested and, while it may be placebo effect, there seems to be a slight improvement in sound quality through the Stello DA100 Signature DAC. It may also just be wishful thinking. However, it does not seem to solve the problem on start-up of 24/96 files, which still take a few seconds to buffer properly. -- rossb rossb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38160 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78771 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Recommended decoder settings for best sound quality
ronpod;547551 Wrote: John - thanks for the FLAC - PCM suggestion. I made the adjustment and it sounds good. However, note that a surprise effect was that the 24/192 test file that I have from Linn Records which was playable before no longer works. Ron. Correct. FLAC-PCM has no SOX in the loop (by default) so auto-downsampling to 24/96 will not take place. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78771 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Recommended decoder settings for best sound quality
The best bet is to transcode FLAC to PCM in the server. There are two reasons for this: 1) I and others can hear better sound streaming PCM than when streaming FLAC. Some people hear it some don't. 2) some people are having problems decoding high compression 24/96 LFACs on the Touch, if you stream PCM you don't have the problem. In the file types list scroll down to the section where the left column says FLAC. You will have three lines. The middle column is the stream type. The right column lists the program used for the decoding. You want to select disabled for FLAC and MP3. The PCM line want sot say flac. That means its using the flac codec to transcode FLAC files to PCM and streaming PCM. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78771 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Recommended decoder settings for best sound quality
Thanks, that is helpful. -- rossb rossb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38160 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78771 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Recommended decoder settings for best sound quality
John - thanks for the FLAC - PCM suggestion. I made the adjustment and it sounds good. However, note that a surprise effect was that the 24/192 test file that I have from Linn Records which was playable before no longer works. Ron. -- ronpod ronpod's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38178 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78771 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Recommended decoder settings for best sound quality
Could someone please advise the recommended advancedformat decoder settings for best sound quality, particularly for streaming FLAC, both 16/44 and 24/96. An explanation of the decoder settings (eg. native, faad/flac etc, why flac is relevant to AAC) would also be helpful. -- rossb rossb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38160 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78771 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Recommended decoder settings for best sound quality
The defaults are pretty optimal. There's not much to do when decoding FLAC. It either works or it doesn't, just like opening a ZIP file. Some people claim huge differences with the various volume controls, but the defaults are sane. -- SuperQ SuperQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78771 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
