Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch for 24-96 flac to home theatre receiver
You guys should be in sales. I should be picking up the SB Touch tomorrow morning. I found a place a bit cheaper than the $350 I was seeing online. By retiring my old computer I didn't necessarily mean disposing. I would have had a new one by now had it not been for the Intel Sandy Bridge chipset issue/recall. I'll keep in mind an SBS. Thanks -- squigly1 squigly1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44913 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86375 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch for 24-96 flac to home theatre receiver
Ok, a few more questions: As my current receiver is quite old (like 10+ years) I imagine the DAC's in it are not as good as the DAC's in the SB. If that is the case and I want to use the DAC's from the SB do I output from Coax or RCA to the receiver? Looking at receivers I see some have network ports on them. Those models are likely to cost more than I intend on spending but if I were to get one of them would that negate the need for the SB? Thanks -- squigly1 squigly1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44913 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86375 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch for 24-96 flac to home theatre receiver
squigly1;618686 Wrote: Ok, a few more questions: As my current receiver is quite old (like 10+ years) I imagine the DAC's in it are not as good as the DAC's in the SB. If that is the case and I want to use the DAC's from the SB do I output from Coax or RCA to the receiver? Looking at receivers I see some have network ports on them. Those models are likely to cost more than I intend on spending but if I were to get one of them would that negate the need for the SB? Thanks If you want to use the DAC from the SB, you would use the RCA out (analog out). A receiver with a network port is not neccesary with SB, and in my opinion would NOT replace the need for the SB system (or something like it). -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86375 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch for 24-96 flac to home theatre receiver
garym;618687 Wrote: If you want to use the DAC from the SB, you would use the RCA out (analog out). A receiver with a network port is not neccesary with SB, and in my opinion would NOT replace the need for the SB system (or something like it). About the network port, I've been reading that those receivers have something called DLNA (digital network living alliance). It appears that with that feature you are able to stream audio like the SB, etc and video like Apple TV, etc. More research is needed. Thanks -- squigly1 squigly1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44913 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86375 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch for 24-96 flac to home theatre receiver
squigly1;618698 Wrote: About the network port, I've been reading that those receivers have something called DLNA (digital network living alliance). It appears that with that feature you are able to stream audio like the SB, etc and video like Apple TV, etc. More research is needed. Thanks Yes, DLNA is a standard that can work. Completely different from SB stuff. And not as good for audio in terms of features I'm told (I think inability to sync different players, do transcoding, certain remote control, and other things). So yes, if you want to go the DLNA approach this forum is not very useful for you as the SB environment is something else entirely. But you should look into it and compare for yourself. -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86375 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch for 24-96 flac to home theatre receiver
DLNA works along the same principle as Squeezeboxes: you have a server on some device with plenty of storage (PC, NAS, etc.) where your music library is, and you have a client that gets tracks from the server to play to the listener. Note that DLNA supports audio, video and image files, SB does audio only. The DLNA clients that I have looked at really SUCK. The client determines the interface the user sees when browsing and playing media files. For instance, I can run a DLNA server on my PC and serve up the same files from my music library that SqueezeBox Server does. Then I can go to my XBox 360, which is a DLNA client, and try to browse through the music to find something to play. This experience is horrible compared to even the Squeezebox Touch's tiny screen. The SqueezeCommander app on my Android phone or Moose on my laptop are leaps and bounds better. I don't know what receivers have DLNA clients built in, but my guess is you will be very disappointed with the user interface. -- Henry66 Henry66's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38863 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86375 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch for 24-96 flac to home theatre receiver
I'm leaning towards getting the SB as it will work with my current receiver. That will give me more time to look at, audition, etc. receivers so I buy the one that best fits my need and budget. If the receiver does DLNA I can do a comparison and if I like it well enough I can always sell the SB, or put it to use somewhere else. Where are the sales. Come on Canada. $350+tax is a bit steep! Thanks -- squigly1 squigly1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44913 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86375 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch for 24-96 flac to home theatre receiver
squigly1;618784 Wrote: Where are the sales. Come on Canada. $350+tax is a bit steep! Thanks I can tell you that even at this price the $350 will be the best $350 you ever spent on improving the enjoyment of your music collection! There are many folks that have reported selling their $10,000+ CD players after acquiring SB player products! -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86375 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch for 24-96 flac to home theatre receiver
AVR/receiver networking is very basic and simplistic, nothing even close to the capabilities of a dedicated Network Music Player like a SB Touch. ;) As suggested, once you get your Touch, hook up both the digital coax and the L/R analog outs to two different inputs in your AVR, like DVD and CD. Now you can play a single song and flip back and forth between DVD and CD from your AVR remote, comparing the two different audio outs of the Touch. As suggested, analog inputs into most AVR's mean two digital to analog conversions, once in your Touch and again in your AVR. Try both, listen, compare, decide for yourself which you prefer. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86375 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
[SlimDevices: Touch] Touch for 24-96 flac to home theatre receiver
Hi, I've searched and think the Touch is the answer for what I need but would like clarification. On my computer hard drive I have many hi-res 24-96 flac files (vinyl rips) and want to play them through my home theatre receiver. The Touch seems to be the device I could use. So here are the questions. After purchasing the device what do I need to download and install on my PC, if anything? I only have wireless G at home, for now. Would it be better wired or wireless? My current receiver only has coax and RCA in. Would it be better to output from the touch via coax or RCA? Lastly, will this work as I think it will? Thanks -- squigly1 squigly1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44913 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86375 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch for 24-96 flac to home theatre receiver
squigly1;618544 Wrote: Hi, I've searched and think the Touch is the answer for what I need but would like clarification. On my computer hard drive I have many hi-res 24-96 flac files (vinyl rips) and want to play them through my home theatre receiver. The Touch seems to be the device I could use. So here are the questions. After purchasing the device what do I need to download and install on my PC, if anything? I only have wireless G at home, for now. Would it be better wired or wireless? My current receiver only has coax and RCA in. Would it be better to output from the touch via coax or RCA? Lastly, will this work as I think it will? Thanks Yes, the TOUCH will play 24/96 FLAC natively install the Free SqueezeBoxServer Software from the website. This will then catalog your music files, etc. (you can also continue to use any other program you were using...this won't interfere with that). Wireless G is fine, but you need a good signal for streaming 24/96 FLAC files. Wired is always better (in my opinion). Not from a sound quality point of view, just from a data transmission (no buffering, interference, etc.). this said, wifi can work just fine. You can output from both the RCA and the digital at the same time (both are live at the same time) and switch back and forth to see what you like the best. The DAC in the TOUCH is pretty good. So it would depend on the DAC in your receiver. But you can use both! Yes, it should all work beautifully! -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86375 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch for 24-96 flac to home theatre receiver
You will also need some tagging software to tag your files in sync with however you design the directory but you may already know that. -- dasmueller dasmueller's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38035 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86375 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch for 24-96 flac to home theatre receiver
dasmueller;618565 Wrote: You will also need some tagging software to tag your files in sync with however you design the directory but you may already know that. If you don't mind, please elaborate on tagging. I currently have each rip in its own directory. Each directory has the flac files. Some have artwork, and some even have a.m3u playlist file. I've been using VLC player to play the 24-96 files on my computer. Thanks -- squigly1 squigly1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44913 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86375 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch for 24-96 flac to home theatre receiver
Tags are metadata that are stored in the FLAC files themselves. They contain information about artist, album, track number, composer, year of recording, and many other things, including lyrics. Squeezebox Server uses the metadata in a database that provides for much more flexible browsing and playing of your music library than the rigid pathname/filename format that it is stored in on the disc. Tags are usually written at the time of creating the FLAC files, but sometimes useful tags are not written, or the wrong information is written in the tags. The best way to view and edit tags is with a tagging program. A favorite for Windows is the freeware mp3tag (www.mp3tag.de), which despite the name, works great on FLAC files. For more info, also see the wiki: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Beginners_Guide_To_Tagging -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86375 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch for 24-96 flac to home theatre receiver
If your receiver is a home theater receiver, likely you would be best using the coax in (digital) since most do some form of DSP internally. If you send in an analog signal (RCA), it will in many cases re-digitize, run through its DSP, then out through its own DAC's anyway. Most have a bypass mode, in which case no re-digitization takes place, but that then precludes the use of any DSP modes, which often include the crossover to drive the subwoofer. -- tcutting tcutting's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17402 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86375 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch for 24-96 flac to home theatre receiver
Good info and news all around. Needed a reason to upgrade from my old receiver and this is it. Off on a hunt to find an SB, and a receiver. Might even retire my old computer for something new too. Thanks for the help. -- squigly1 squigly1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44913 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86375 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch for 24-96 flac to home theatre receiver
You may want to play around a bit w Squeezeplay. It will give you a feel for how the system operates before you get your Touch. It helped me understand things a bit more before my Touch arrived. People here are always willing to help so keep on asking http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/?ver=7.5 This is the link you want Squeezeplay is at the bottom of the list. Have fun !! -- dasmueller dasmueller's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38035 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86375 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
