Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] ayre QB9 + touch USB

2011-02-01 Thread indypants

JohnSwenson;602257 Wrote: 
 Some people have run a QB-9 with the Touch without any problems at all.
 So there has to be something DAC specific, Touch hardware specific or
 configuration specific. 
 
 What I would like people to try is different sample rates say 44.1 VS
 48 or 88.2 and 96. That should wind up exercising different crystals in
 the DAC. 
 
 With a USB interface the rate data is sent to the DAC is NOT determined
 by the audio crystals but by the processor crystal which may not be
 given as much care in initial frequency accuracy. The result is that
 the data rate might be fairly far off from what it should be and the
 feedback loop in the asynchronous interface may not have enough time to
 get the computer sending the data at the right rate before the buffer
 over/under flows.  
 
 I've been working with some others with async hardware and seeing some
 very strange things happening. The feedback loop IS working but
 sometimes the data rate gets set to something very bizarre.
 Unfortunately I can't get any of this to happen on my Touch so its hard
 to debug.
 
 John S.


Hi John, I've been in communication with the software engineer for my
async USB DAC (this one
http://www.audiolab.co.uk/ProductDetail.aspx?lang=EnTab2=8200CDQ),
which is also getting the pops/clicks after applying your mod. He is
interested in contacting you to help resolve it. Would you like me to
put you in touch?

Tim


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] ayre QB9 + touch USB

2011-01-13 Thread JohnSwenson

Some people have run a QB-9 with the Touch without any problems at all.
So there has to be something DAC specific, Touch hardware specific or
configuration specific. 

What I would like people to try is different sample rates say 44.1 VS
48 or 88.2 and 96. That should wind up exercising different crystals in
the DAC. 

With a USB interface the rate data is sent to the DAC is NOT determined
by the audio crystals but by the processor crystal which may not be
given as much care in initial frequency accuracy. The result is that
the data rate might be fairly far off from what it should be and the
feedback loop in the asynchronous interface may not have enough time to
get the computer sending the data at the right rate before the buffer
over/under flows.  

I've been working with some others with async hardware and seeing some
very strange things happening. The feedback loop IS working but
sometimes the data rate gets set to something very bizarre.
Unfortunately I can't get any of this to happen on my Touch so its hard
to debug.

John S.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] ayre QB9 + touch USB

2011-01-11 Thread soundcheck

It's probably the Linux Alsa USB driver. It is really old. And might
cause problems with asynchronous DACs. 

If I recall it correctly  John Svensson handed in a patched driver
quite some time ago. I'm not sure if it never made it into the
firmware. 
Let see if it ever will, respectively if Logitech ever updates to a
newer kernel resp. Alsa before Touch reaches EOL.


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[SlimDevices: Touch] ayre QB9 + touch USB

2011-01-08 Thread meltsheep

I have the Ayre AB9 on loan and hooked it up to my squeezebox with the
asound.conf tweaked as described.

DAC is fantastic but I get clicks and pops that make music unlistenable
to.

I am assuming the problem is that I am using WIFI connect SB to PC? I
have the PC doing the transcoding 

Any suggestions ?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] ayre QB9 + touch USB

2011-01-08 Thread meltsheep

I saw this and will give it a go tomorrow. 

http://soundcheck-audio.blogspot.com/2011/01/soundchecks-squeezebox-touch-toolbox-20.html

I am assuming the buffersize is a problem.


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