Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] WiFi dead? What are my options?
FYI, I suggest *not using* Edimax EW-7438RPn. I bought some months ago to facilitate upgrading my WiFi from TKIP to AES (so that real Squeezeboxes would need Ethernet). The Edimax tested OK with TKIP but I couldn't get them going with AES. Edimax's newest firmware for that was released in 2015, so I think it's hopeless and am going to try the same newer Vonets that JPEG got. owner of the stuff at https://tuxreborn.netlify.app/ (which used to reside at *www. tux.org/~peterw/*) Note: The best way to reach me is email or PM, as I don't spend much time on the forums. *Free plugins:* AllQuiet Auto Dim/AutoDisplay BlankSaver ContextMenu DenonSerial FuzzyTime KidsPlay KitchenTimer PlayLog PowerCenter/BottleRocket SaverSwitcher SettingsManager SleepFade StatusFirst SyncOptions VolumeLock peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115308 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] WiFi dead? What are my options?
I was still having strange intermittent wifi failures on my Touch. So, I bought a Vonets VAR11N-300 which I plug into the Ethernet port on this Touch. The Vonets unit is in Bridge mode. One thing to note: I needed an external USB 5V/1A wall wart to power the Vonets; the USB power out of my Touch was not sufficient. That is a minor bummer -- it would be very clean to power the Vonets off the Touch itself. I will monitor this closely and report back if I still have issues. JPEG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36378 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115308 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] WiFi dead? What are my options?
After an hour of freakin' out over the "Network not found" message, I finally joined this forum (about time, I've had my Touch for around 15 years) and realized that I hadn't done a full factory reset. Success - the new year is truly off to a good start! :cool: Dr. Jon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=72432 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115308 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] WiFi dead? What are my options?
My daughter's Touch fell off the WiFi last week. It's been stable for ages. I could see the AP but not connect and a factory reset didn't help. Happily I have 2 Touch spare (and 4 SB 3, cough) so I swapped it. Reading this thread today has reminded me that I've seen this before and swapping power fixed it. However I've already built her a picoreplayer which she's receiving tomorrow so that will solve everything. The remaining Touch in the house are on the cat 5. gvh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1879 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115308 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] WiFi dead? What are my options?
My touch has the same sickness. At first it was intermittent and eventually no way to use WiFi. Every time we were hit with a power outage the Touch struggled to get back online when the power came back. And as others said when the issue happens the WiFi NIC doesnt even show up in the options anymore. So its like the firmware doesnt recognize and initialize it at boot time. Whats so puzzling is that the issue was a gradual decline over about a years worth of time and I just dont see how this fits with the chipset being bad. I get capacitor aging but there dont seem to be electrolyte based caps in the Touch. On a SB3 recapping fixed issues and it was very obvious on an oscilloscope how the rails were dirty before and clean afterwards. This one smells like a timing issue. I also noticed that somehow temperature played a role when the issue was intermittently happening. After being off for a long time it wouldnt work - period. Once up for some time and then rebooting it would come back. But it got worse to the point where I gave up and wired it with Ethernet. I wish someone would get to the bottom of this. PcarSBA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=70507 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115308 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] WiFi dead? What are my options?
Hi, I wouldn't discard a damaged integrated circuit or electrical connection. I remember one case from my first years as an electronics engineer, a maker of integrated circuits had gone mad about a problem with a client. In the end it was found chips were damaged by electrostatic discharge but still working as far as ambient humidity was within a range. waldo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19888 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115308 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] WiFi dead? What are my options?
Muso wrote: > One of my 3 Touches lost connection again 2 days ago (it was the one I > reset to factory settings) . I haven't done anything about it yet except > keep trying to connect and reboot. I think I will try leaving it off for > a while and see if that does the trick. > What is everyone doing about this long term? Are we going to have to > build Raspberry Pi streamers? I have looked into this, but it needs some > time to learn and set everything up. Got it working! I tried leaving it off and rebooting which didn't help, so I just tried the repair network option which never really seemed to do anything before. I left it running probably 15 minutes or so and nothing seemed to happen. so I switched it off and when it came back on it is now working again! I hope you have the same success? Muso's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=72256 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115308 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] WiFi dead? What are my options?
werdeil wrote: > My Touch Wifi died again yesterday and I didn't manage to make it work > again. As stated by others it behaves as if there was no hardware > connected. Even the ethernet connection wasn't working, I had to reset > the touch to manage to get ethernet, but still no WiFi. One of my 3 Touches lost connection again 2 days ago (it was the one I reset to factory settings) . I haven't done anything about it yet except keep trying to connect and reboot. I think I will try leaving it off for a while and see if that does the trick. What is everyone doing about this long term? Are we going to have to build Raspberry Pi streamers? I have looked into this, but it needs some time to learn and set everything up. Muso's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=72256 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115308 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] WiFi dead? What are my options?
My Touch Wifi died again yesterday and I didn't manage to make it work again. As stated by others it behaves as if there was no hardware connected. Even the ethernet connection wasn't working, I had to reset the touch to manage to get ethernet, but still no WiFi. werdeil's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=70638 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115308 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] WiFi dead? What are my options?
ralphy wrote: > The touch is the only squeezeos/jive based player/controller that we DO > have the source code. Ah yes - I had my wires crossed and was thinking of the Radio WiFi issues and wlanpoke mitigation. Paul Webster author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, abc australia and cbc/radio-canada and, via the extra \"radio now playing\" plugin lots more - see https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115201-announce-radio-now-playing-plugin Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115308 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] WiFi dead? What are my options?
Paul Webster wrote: > The challenge of not having the source code. The touch is the only squeezeos/jive based player/controller that we DO have the 'source code' (https://github.com/ralph-irving/squeezeos/tree/public/8.0/src/marvell_SD8686_v9). For the radio and controller we are using the wifi kernel modules from the last official logitech release in the community firmware. Ralphy *1*-Touch, *5*-Classics, *3*-Booms, *2*-UE Radio 'Squeezebox client builds' (https://sourceforge.net/projects/lmsclients/files/) 'donations' (https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_donations=LL5P6365KQEXN=CA_name=Squeezebox%20client%20builds_code=USD=PP%2dDonationsBF%3abtn_donate_SM%2egif%3aNonHosted) always appreciated. ralphy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3484 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115308 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] WiFi dead? What are my options?
The one that you found is probably older or newer ... with or without additional bugs or bugfixes ... and it may or may not be compatible with the SB environment ... The challenge of not having the source code. Paul Webster author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, abc australia and cbc/radio-canada and, via the extra \"radio now playing\" plugin lots more - see https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115201-announce-radio-now-playing-plugin Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115308 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] WiFi dead? What are my options?
I did some further investigations, looking at the module that interfaces the hardware to the os, /lib/modules/2.6.26.8-rt16-332-g5849bfa/sd8686.ko it shows a size of 2038303 bytes. I googled around and managed to find another forum showing the size and there it was different, 2039023 bytes. That could maybe be a indication that this file is corrupted, but that seems unlikely as I suppose it is replaced when a new fw is loaded and that it load without complaints. Maybe it's so simple that some substandard component are used and that manifests it now on devices that has been powered for a long time. carpelux's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=72333 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115308 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] WiFi dead? What are my options?
I have tried to enable the old access point, but that didn't change anything. Actually I don't think it's anything wrong the WiFi environment as all the other things that are attached to it works well. Some 30 devices ranging from clients to various other and IOT things, including 3 SB Radios and 4 squeezelite-ESP32. I did connect the touch via ethernet and used ssh to log in to it. When i tried to start the wlan interface via the init script it inserts the module '/lib/modules/2.6.26.8-rt16-332-g5849bfa/sd8686.ko' but then it doesn't seem to find the hardware. Maybe there really is a hardware failure but it seems a bit unlikely that so many people are affected. Here's how it looks when I try to start the wlan interface (MAC obscured): Code: # /etc/init.d/wlan start root: Starting wlan Setting wlan0 ethaddr: 00:04:20:nn:nn:nn ifconfig: SIOCSIFHWADDR: No such device Setting region: 16 wlan0 no private ioctls. ioctl[SIOCGIWPRIV]: No such device ioctl[SIOCSIWPMKSA]: No such device ioctl[SIOCSIWMODE]: No such device Could not configure driver to use managed mode ioctl[SIOCGIFFLAGS]: No such device Could not set interface 'wlan0' UP ioctl[SIOCGIWRANGE]: No such device ioctl[SIOCGIFINDEX]: No such device marvell ioctl: No such device marvell ioctl: No such device marvell ioctl: No such device marvell ioctl: No such device marvell ioctl: No such device ioctl[SIOCSIWAP]: No such device Failed to connect to wpa_supplicant - wpa_ctrl_open: No such file or directory root: wlan started carpelux's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=72333 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115308 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] WiFi dead? What are my options?
carpelux wrote: > I also recently got bitten by this bug. > My touch has been working fine for years, but when i replaced my AP the > WiFi was gone on the touch. I tried all the tricks like powering from a > lab power supply, factory reset and firmware update but it doesn't do > any good. > > It's like JPEG wrote, it seems like the whole WiFi subsystem is gone. I > really would like to do a full factory reset of it and start new, but it > seems that the reset from the menu or pushing the button during power up > doesn't clear all the settings.If your problems started when you changed the > access point it would be a massive coincidence If the Touch developed an issue at the same time. Does it still work with the old access point? Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115308 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] WiFi dead? What are my options?
I also recently got bitten by this bug. My touch has been working fine for years, but when i replaced my AP the WiFi was gone on the touch. I tried all the tricks like powering from a lab power supply, factory reset and firmware update but it doesn't do any good. It's like JPEG wrote, it seems like the whole WiFi subsystem is gone. I really would like to do a full factory reset of it and start new, but it seems that the reset from the menu or pushing the button during power up doesn't clear all the settings. carpelux's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=72333 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115308 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] WiFi dead? What are my options?
I left one of my Touches disconnected from power for about 3 hours. I when I came back to it, it would let me configure the wireless network just fine, like it always had. It is running normally at the moment. I assume that the wireless subsystem is on its last legs JPEG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36378 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115308 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] WiFi dead? What are my options?
pputzer wrote: > I've also noticed that the Touch is very allergic to 2.4 GHz wifi using > 40 MHz channel width. I think bonding didn't exist when Touch was developed. I suspect the underlying components were designed to only expect 20MHz channels bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115308 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] WiFi dead? What are my options?
I don't think I am experiencing interference on my two Touches. It is as if the entire wifi hardware subsystem is missing. I am no longer even given the option to configure the wireless connection on my Touches JPEG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36378 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115308 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] WiFi dead? What are my options?
I've also noticed that the Touch is very allergic to 2.4 GHz wifi using 40 MHz channel width. pputzer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36842 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115308 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] WiFi dead? What are my options?
My touches are still alive (one on wifi), so I have not tried this, but if your touches are fine on ethernet, others have used vonet wifi dongles, which (I have read) can be powered by the USB port of the touch. minimal cost and worth a try, even if just for debug purposes Jim Redrum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115308 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] WiFi dead? What are my options?
mcoste wrote: > Same thoughts here, how come multiple WiFi issues popup at the same > time?? The player such as Touches and SB Classics are getting old and roughly same age and age related issues such as PSU, WIFI and caps failures start to show up. Secondary issues is wifi standards have also changed over 10 years and older devices can be affected by newer standard such as Wifi6 (as well as other more widespread use of 2.4G freq such as BT and Zigbee etc) bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115308 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] WiFi dead? What are my options?
Same thoughts here, how come multiple WiFi issues popup at the same time?? mcoste's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12820 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115308 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] WiFi dead? What are my options?
It seems like something strange is happening to Touches around the world. Why would both of my Touches have complete wifi failures on (about) the same day? Wired interfaces still seems to work JPEG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36378 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115308 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] WiFi dead? What are my options?
I had the same kind of issue (https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115166-WiFi-issue-with-community-firmware-on-Touch), I thought it came from the community firmware but maybe not as it worked again some time after. But it failed again last night and I didn't manage to make it work yet. Don't know if it is a power or WiFi chip issue but I guess I'll have to secure my connection through ethernet to avoid having this issue from time to time. werdeil's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=70638 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115308 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] WiFi dead? What are my options?
Thanks guys. I already switched to ethernet, but I will try to disconnect it to check if WiFi works again. As for the power supply, I tested it with a lab power supply that could deliver up to 5 amps, so power isn't likely to be the culprit. mcoste's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12820 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115308 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] WiFi dead? What are my options?
I think others have observed this could be a symptom of a failing power supply. Might try a different supply. Don't forget the Radio uses a higher voltage and will fry the touch. P Nelson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58158 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115308 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] WiFi dead? What are my options?
I had the same thing with both my Touch's last week. One I reset to factory and the other one had lost the wifi 2 days later. I was perplexed to say the least! Anyway a couple of days later after reading this and a few other things online that had not worked, they miraculously found the wifi again! So hang in there if you haven't done anything drastic yet. All may not be lost. Good luck! Muso's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=72256 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115308 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] WiFi dead? What are my options?
thank you all, I will then not try to disassemble the touch. I had tried the factory reset and FW upgrade. I already have ethernet coming to the cabinet where the Touch sits but it's used for another device => I'll add a small ethernet switch mcoste's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12820 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115308 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] WiFi dead? What are my options?
If the WLAN module is really dead and you need Wifi - thgen you can use an external Wifi to Ethernet adaptor Some user which had Wifi problems with Radio have used a Vonets VAP-11G with success - powered through in line connection but with Touch you have possibility of using Touch USB socket for power (IIRC up to 500mA) . Vonets http://www.vonets.com/productviews.asp?d_id=86 There are many types of adaptors that can provide the Wifi to Ethernet conversion such as nanorouters (in reverse AP mode) or extenders such as NetGear EX3700 and using Ethernet connection. An external adaptor can also provide access to Wifi capabilities such as 5G. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115308 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] WiFi dead? What are my options?
A few things I would try: - Factory reset: hold reset button on rear of Touch for 10 secs. - Firmware update/reapply If still no good and wiring not an option, you might consider HomePlug: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008F537KC/ Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115308 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] WiFi dead? What are my options?
mcoste wrote: > It appears that my Touch lost wireless connectivity. When I go through > networking setup and click on Wireless network, nothing happens, as if > the WiFi module had died. Ethernet works fine. > > Is there a test that would confirm that this is a HW problem? I played > with LMS settings before I noticed this problem to fix something totally > unrelated (last.fm Love this track needing to enter mysqueezebox.com > credentials) and I wonder if I unintentionally changed something on the > SB Touch (I doubt it). > > Is WiFi on a separate module that I could replace? I read that > disassembling and reassembling the touch was a pain so I'd rther not go > that route unless I Was sure I could replace a faulty WLAN module. You cannot replace the wifi module on the Touch. Gesendet von iPad mit Tapatalk pputzer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36842 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115308 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
