Re: [Touch-packages] [Bug 1838151] Re: Poor quality audio with modern Bluetooth headsets in HSP/HFP. Missing wide band speech support (Bluetooth A2DP codecs).
We'll see, Fedora 34 seems to have switched to Pipewire, and F34 is in my near future, so I'll be experimenting. Am Mi., 7. Apr. 2021 um 11:51 Uhr schrieb Luis Alberto Pabón < 1838...@bugs.launchpad.net>: > That would be for 21.10 at this point yes? > > I wonder, how close/far is Ubuntu to swap PA for Pipewire? After next > lts? I do believe this particular issue is not present on current > Pipewire. > > -- > You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug > report. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1838151 > > Title: > Poor quality audio with modern Bluetooth headsets in HSP/HFP. Missing > wide band speech support (Bluetooth A2DP codecs). > > To manage notifications about this bug go to: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/pulseaudio/+bug/1838151/+subscriptions > -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to bluez in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1838151 Title: Poor quality audio with modern Bluetooth headsets in HSP/HFP. Missing wide band speech support (Bluetooth A2DP codecs). Status in PulseAudio: New Status in bluez package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in linux package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in pulseaudio package in Ubuntu: Fix Committed Status in Arch Linux: New Bug description: Bluetooth HSP/HFP audio quality is poor on Ubuntu comparative to all other major platforms (Windows, MacOS, ChromeOS, Android, iOS). Modern Bluetooth headsets (such as the Bose QC series headphones, many others) are capable of using HFP 1.6 with mSBC 16kHz audio encoding. As it currently stands, Ubuntu defaults to only supporting HSP headsets using 8kHz CVSD, and is incapable of supporting HFP 1.6 at this time. The ChromiumOS team recently tackled this issue - https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=843048 Their efforts may assist in bringing this to Ubuntu, however it appears that there are quite a lot of differences considering they have developed their own audio server solution etc. The Bluetooth Telephony Working Group published the HFP 1.6 spec in May 2011 - https://www.bluetooth.org/docman/handlers/downloaddoc.ashx?doc_id=238193 Patches have been proposed in the past for this issue to the kernel and PulseAudio: PulseAudio: https://patchwork.freedesktop.org/patch/245272/ Kernel: https://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-bluetooth/msg76982.html It appears that the Chromium OS team applied the same kernel patch: https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/third_party/kernel/+/77dd0cb94c1713a8a12f6e392955dfa64c430e54 ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 19.04 Package: pulseaudio 1:12.2-2ubuntu3 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 5.0.0-20.21-generic 5.0.8 Uname: Linux 5.0.0-20-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.20.10-0ubuntu27.1 Architecture: amd64 AudioDevicesInUse: USERPID ACCESS COMMAND /dev/snd/controlC0: jnappi 2777 F pulseaudio CurrentDesktop: ubuntu:GNOME Date: Sat Jul 27 11:08:29 2019 EcryptfsInUse: Yes InstallationDate: Installed on 2017-11-04 (629 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 17.10 "Artful Aardvark" - Release amd64 (20171018) ProcEnviron: PATH=(custom, no user) XDG_RUNTIME_DIR= LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: pulseaudio UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to disco on 2019-07-18 (9 days ago) dmi.bios.date: 06/07/2016 dmi.bios.vendor: LENOVO dmi.bios.version: R07ET67W (2.07 ) dmi.board.asset.tag: Not Available dmi.board.name: 20FW000TUS dmi.board.vendor: LENOVO dmi.board.version: SDK0J40705 WIN dmi.chassis.asset.tag: No Asset Information dmi.chassis.type: 10 dmi.chassis.vendor: LENOVO dmi.chassis.version: None dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnLENOVO:bvrR07ET67W(2.07):bd06/07/2016:svnLENOVO:pn20FW000TUS:pvrThinkPadT460p:rvnLENOVO:rn20FW000TUS:rvrSDK0J40705WIN:cvnLENOVO:ct10:cvrNone: dmi.product.family: ThinkPad T460p dmi.product.name: 20FW000TUS dmi.product.sku: LENOVO_MT_20FW_BU_Think_FM_ThinkPad T460p dmi.product.version: ThinkPad T460p dmi.sys.vendor: LENOVO To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/pulseaudio/+bug/1838151/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Touch-packages] [Bug 1838151] Re: Poor quality audio with modern Bluetooth headsets in HSP/HFP. Missing wide band speech support (Bluetooth A2DP codecs).
@Oscar That was never an issue: A2DP always sounded decent. The problem with Linux Bluetooth headset support comes when you want decent quality while listening and recording sound, you know e.g. during video calls. Am Di., 30. März 2021 um 07:35 Uhr schrieb Oscar Pérez del Campo < 1838...@bugs.launchpad.net>: > I guess this bug has been solved. As stated in > https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pulseaudio/pulseaudio/-/issues/776 by > @rmeissn, from gnome-settings, when the headset is connected, you can > switch from HSP/HFP to A2DP. > Once changed this setting my headsed sounds perfectly. > > -- > You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug > report. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1838151 > > Title: > Poor quality audio with modern Bluetooth headsets in HSP/HFP. Missing > wide band speech support (Bluetooth A2DP codecs). > > To manage notifications about this bug go to: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/pulseaudio/+bug/1838151/+subscriptions > -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to bluez in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1838151 Title: Poor quality audio with modern Bluetooth headsets in HSP/HFP. Missing wide band speech support (Bluetooth A2DP codecs). Status in PulseAudio: New Status in bluez package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in linux package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in pulseaudio package in Ubuntu: Fix Committed Status in Arch Linux: New Bug description: Bluetooth HSP/HFP audio quality is poor on Ubuntu comparative to all other major platforms (Windows, MacOS, ChromeOS, Android, iOS). Modern Bluetooth headsets (such as the Bose QC series headphones, many others) are capable of using HFP 1.6 with mSBC 16kHz audio encoding. As it currently stands, Ubuntu defaults to only supporting HSP headsets using 8kHz CVSD, and is incapable of supporting HFP 1.6 at this time. The ChromiumOS team recently tackled this issue - https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=843048 Their efforts may assist in bringing this to Ubuntu, however it appears that there are quite a lot of differences considering they have developed their own audio server solution etc. The Bluetooth Telephony Working Group published the HFP 1.6 spec in May 2011 - https://www.bluetooth.org/docman/handlers/downloaddoc.ashx?doc_id=238193 Patches have been proposed in the past for this issue to the kernel and PulseAudio: PulseAudio: https://patchwork.freedesktop.org/patch/245272/ Kernel: https://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-bluetooth/msg76982.html It appears that the Chromium OS team applied the same kernel patch: https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/third_party/kernel/+/77dd0cb94c1713a8a12f6e392955dfa64c430e54 ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 19.04 Package: pulseaudio 1:12.2-2ubuntu3 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 5.0.0-20.21-generic 5.0.8 Uname: Linux 5.0.0-20-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.20.10-0ubuntu27.1 Architecture: amd64 AudioDevicesInUse: USERPID ACCESS COMMAND /dev/snd/controlC0: jnappi 2777 F pulseaudio CurrentDesktop: ubuntu:GNOME Date: Sat Jul 27 11:08:29 2019 EcryptfsInUse: Yes InstallationDate: Installed on 2017-11-04 (629 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 17.10 "Artful Aardvark" - Release amd64 (20171018) ProcEnviron: PATH=(custom, no user) XDG_RUNTIME_DIR= LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: pulseaudio UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to disco on 2019-07-18 (9 days ago) dmi.bios.date: 06/07/2016 dmi.bios.vendor: LENOVO dmi.bios.version: R07ET67W (2.07 ) dmi.board.asset.tag: Not Available dmi.board.name: 20FW000TUS dmi.board.vendor: LENOVO dmi.board.version: SDK0J40705 WIN dmi.chassis.asset.tag: No Asset Information dmi.chassis.type: 10 dmi.chassis.vendor: LENOVO dmi.chassis.version: None dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnLENOVO:bvrR07ET67W(2.07):bd06/07/2016:svnLENOVO:pn20FW000TUS:pvrThinkPadT460p:rvnLENOVO:rn20FW000TUS:rvrSDK0J40705WIN:cvnLENOVO:ct10:cvrNone: dmi.product.family: ThinkPad T460p dmi.product.name: 20FW000TUS dmi.product.sku: LENOVO_MT_20FW_BU_Think_FM_ThinkPad T460p dmi.product.version: ThinkPad T460p dmi.sys.vendor: LENOVO To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/pulseaudio/+bug/1838151/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Touch-packages] [Bug 1838151] Re: Poor quality audio with modern Bluetooth headsets in HSP/HFP. Missing wide band speech support (Bluetooth A2DP codecs).
That one was a good one. Bluetooth gadget makers seem to be allergic to exactly specify what their gadgets really support. That's on one side extremely understandable, it would be mostly not understandable for humans, the Bluetooth standards involved are arcane, and even relatively experienced computer scientists that are not BT experts can be surprised from time to time, even if they tried to make themselves clever about BT. OTOH, it makes buying Bluetooth headsets slightly a risky business. Then it does not help that most host implementations are kind of not talkative about the connection that they negotiated with the head set. (I mean figuring out which codecs your headset supports involves capturing the traffic and analyzing that, that's state of the art in 2020 on Windows. Now that's user friendliness taken to the extreme, wouldn't you say? Now on Linux, bluez includes an utility that can tell you more about your headset. For whatever reason, Ubung don't include avinfo in their packages, I mean why burden users with details about their headsets?) So my process is sadly as follows: - Look at your headsets (choose BT 4.1/4.2 devices that usually makes sense), read reviews - Order it online - Test if I'm happy with it (on linux, avinfo can tell you about codecs supported, but connecting it to an Android device, doing an Internet based video call, and asking the other side how if you sounded "okay" is usally okay. Bad BT is usually identified as "you sounded really bad, like from the last century"). - If the headset is not okay, send it back. Sadly, the reality of not complete spec sheets on devices makes it basically impossible to know what you are buying beforehand, in general. Andreas Am Mi., 18. Nov. 2020 um 19:11 Uhr schrieb Davide Pessina < 1838...@bugs.launchpad.net>: > @65 - thank for explanation > > Could someone post a list of headsets with mSBC support? > > Price below 100€ if possible > > Specification are hard to find, and headset market is crowded... > > -- > You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug > report. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1838151 > > Title: > Poor quality audio with modern Bluetooth headsets in HSP/HFP. Missing > wide band speech support (Bluetooth A2DP codecs). > > To manage notifications about this bug go to: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/pulseaudio/+bug/1838151/+subscriptions > -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to bluez in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1838151 Title: Poor quality audio with modern Bluetooth headsets in HSP/HFP. Missing wide band speech support (Bluetooth A2DP codecs). Status in PulseAudio: New Status in bluez package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in linux package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in pulseaudio package in Ubuntu: In Progress Status in Arch Linux: New Bug description: Bluetooth HSP/HFP audio quality is poor on Ubuntu comparative to all other major platforms (Windows, MacOS, ChromeOS, Android, iOS). Modern Bluetooth headsets (such as the Bose QC series headphones, many others) are capable of using HFP 1.6 with mSBC 16kHz audio encoding. As it currently stands, Ubuntu defaults to only supporting HSP headsets using 8kHz CVSD, and is incapable of supporting HFP 1.6 at this time. The ChromiumOS team recently tackled this issue - https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=843048 Their efforts may assist in bringing this to Ubuntu, however it appears that there are quite a lot of differences considering they have developed their own audio server solution etc. The Bluetooth Telephony Working Group published the HFP 1.6 spec in May 2011 - https://www.bluetooth.org/docman/handlers/downloaddoc.ashx?doc_id=238193 Patches have been proposed in the past for this issue to the kernel and PulseAudio: PulseAudio: https://patchwork.freedesktop.org/patch/245272/ Kernel: https://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-bluetooth/msg76982.html It appears that the Chromium OS team applied the same kernel patch: https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/third_party/kernel/+/77dd0cb94c1713a8a12f6e392955dfa64c430e54 ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 19.04 Package: pulseaudio 1:12.2-2ubuntu3 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 5.0.0-20.21-generic 5.0.8 Uname: Linux 5.0.0-20-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.20.10-0ubuntu27.1 Architecture: amd64 AudioDevicesInUse: USERPID ACCESS COMMAND /dev/snd/controlC0: jnappi 2777 F pulseaudio CurrentDesktop: ubuntu:GNOME Date: Sat Jul 27 11:08:29 2019 EcryptfsInUse: Yes InstallationDate: Installed on 2017-11-04 (629 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 17.10 "Artful Aardvark" - Release amd64 (20171018) ProcEnviron: PATH=(custom, no user) XDG_RUNTIME_DIR= LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: pulseaudio UpgradeStatus:
Re: [Touch-packages] [Bug 1838151] Re: Poor quality audio with modern Bluetooth headsets in HSP/HFP. Missing wide band speech support (Bluetooth A2DP codecs).
I've got a DG60 dongle (a slightly bigger cousin), and my experiences with a headset that does only have SBC/MP3 codecs (Aftershokz Aeropex) - It switches attached to my Linux (Ubuntu 18.04) automatically to HFP/HSP profile (mono + microphone, but in good quality) when my laptop starts to use the microphone. - You can switch mode manually (for the very seldom case where it somehow does not realize that it should switch). Andreas Am Mi., 28. Okt. 2020 um 19:30 Uhr schrieb Falc <1838...@bugs.launchpad.net >: > I can only speak to the one that I linked, but yes it has talk/list > switch. The talk mode is only for talking (the music quality is BAD), > the lisen mode is only for listening (the music quality is good). > > -- > You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug > report. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1838151 > > Title: > Poor quality audio with modern Bluetooth headsets in HSP/HFP. Missing > wide band speech support (Bluetooth A2DP codecs). > > To manage notifications about this bug go to: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/pulseaudio/+bug/1838151/+subscriptions > -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to bluez in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1838151 Title: Poor quality audio with modern Bluetooth headsets in HSP/HFP. Missing wide band speech support (Bluetooth A2DP codecs). Status in PulseAudio: New Status in bluez package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in linux package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in pulseaudio package in Ubuntu: In Progress Status in Arch Linux: New Bug description: Bluetooth HSP/HFP audio quality is poor on Ubuntu comparative to all other major platforms (Windows, MacOS, ChromeOS, Android, iOS). Modern Bluetooth headsets (such as the Bose QC series headphones, many others) are capable of using HFP 1.6 with mSBC 16kHz audio encoding. As it currently stands, Ubuntu defaults to only supporting HSP headsets using 8kHz CVSD, and is incapable of supporting HFP 1.6 at this time. The ChromiumOS team recently tackled this issue - https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=843048 Their efforts may assist in bringing this to Ubuntu, however it appears that there are quite a lot of differences considering they have developed their own audio server solution etc. The Bluetooth Telephony Working Group published the HFP 1.6 spec in May 2011 - https://www.bluetooth.org/docman/handlers/downloaddoc.ashx?doc_id=238193 Patches have been proposed in the past for this issue to the kernel and PulseAudio: PulseAudio: https://patchwork.freedesktop.org/patch/245272/ Kernel: https://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-bluetooth/msg76982.html It appears that the Chromium OS team applied the same kernel patch: https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/third_party/kernel/+/77dd0cb94c1713a8a12f6e392955dfa64c430e54 ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 19.04 Package: pulseaudio 1:12.2-2ubuntu3 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 5.0.0-20.21-generic 5.0.8 Uname: Linux 5.0.0-20-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.20.10-0ubuntu27.1 Architecture: amd64 AudioDevicesInUse: USERPID ACCESS COMMAND /dev/snd/controlC0: jnappi 2777 F pulseaudio CurrentDesktop: ubuntu:GNOME Date: Sat Jul 27 11:08:29 2019 EcryptfsInUse: Yes InstallationDate: Installed on 2017-11-04 (629 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 17.10 "Artful Aardvark" - Release amd64 (20171018) ProcEnviron: PATH=(custom, no user) XDG_RUNTIME_DIR= LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: pulseaudio UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to disco on 2019-07-18 (9 days ago) dmi.bios.date: 06/07/2016 dmi.bios.vendor: LENOVO dmi.bios.version: R07ET67W (2.07 ) dmi.board.asset.tag: Not Available dmi.board.name: 20FW000TUS dmi.board.vendor: LENOVO dmi.board.version: SDK0J40705 WIN dmi.chassis.asset.tag: No Asset Information dmi.chassis.type: 10 dmi.chassis.vendor: LENOVO dmi.chassis.version: None dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnLENOVO:bvrR07ET67W(2.07):bd06/07/2016:svnLENOVO:pn20FW000TUS:pvrThinkPadT460p:rvnLENOVO:rn20FW000TUS:rvrSDK0J40705WIN:cvnLENOVO:ct10:cvrNone: dmi.product.family: ThinkPad T460p dmi.product.name: 20FW000TUS dmi.product.sku: LENOVO_MT_20FW_BU_Think_FM_ThinkPad T460p dmi.product.version: ThinkPad T460p dmi.sys.vendor: LENOVO To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/pulseaudio/+bug/1838151/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Touch-packages] [Bug 1838151] Re: Poor quality audio with modern Bluetooth headsets in HSP/HFP. Missing wide band speech support (Bluetooth A2DP codecs).
Nice explanation of the mess that Bluetooth audio is, as I'm reliving my frustrations currently (my wife bought her first headset, for her Windows laptop, and discovered that “plug and play” is sadly “buy and pray” in Bluetooth land :( ) https://habr.com/en/post/456182/ * generally all OS (Android, Linux, Windows, AFAIK, but probably also the Apple offerings) are secretive about what they negotiate with the headset. (I mean, capturing the traffic and analysing it to know which codec is used. OK, on Android & Linux that sounds like part of the heritage, but I discovered yesterday that this state-of-the-art in 2020 in the Windows world) * headset manufacturers tend to be secretive about the features and protocols/profiles their devices support. Now some of that is “understandable” manufacturers not wanting to show that their devices don't support the cool stuff, but in many cases manufacturers don't give the details even if they would show their products in a positive light. Guess they don't want a 2 KB of small print of abbreviations in their spec sheets. * Furthermore BT Audio is complicated by the fact, that historically the standard supports only “high quality" playback & but mono playback with a groovy frequency bandwidth (GSM style sound) when recording audio. There are ways around that, but not all devices implement them, and not always in the same way.” * patented codecs, pure joy (that makes the xkcd comic in the above link even "funnier" for open source systems). * Thus you have a situation that standards that out for decades are still only implemented partially by the market, and where they are implemented, they are not necessary implemented 100% by the book, shudder. Ah, sorry for the rant, but “buying BT headsets” raises my blood pressure, and I'm one of the happy owners of a flagship mobile without a 3.5 mm connector (which is fine, I'm too clumsy to use tethered headphone on the move anyway, shrug). Andreas Am Mi., 14. Okt. 2020 um 11:41 Uhr schrieb Daniel van Vugt < 1838...@bugs.launchpad.net>: > Actually most laptops (or desktops) can't compete with USB sound cards. > Because the audio chips that come on your motherboard: > > * are usually cheaper and lower quality; > * often have limited kernel/ALSA driver support (which is why the > alsa-driver bug backlog is always out of control); > * often suffer from noise on the headset jack from the digital-to-analog > stage being too close to the rest of the computer. > > So I strongly recommend USB audio in general. Especially for wired > headsets where you can also avoid the lossy nature of Bluetooth audio > encoding. > > And for Bluetooth audio, such a USB dongle sounds like a great > workaround for this bug. But we all wish it wasn't necessary. > > -- > You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug > report. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1838151 > > Title: > Poor quality audio with modern Bluetooth headsets in HSP/HFP. Missing > wide band speech support (Bluetooth A2DP codecs). > > To manage notifications about this bug go to: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/pulseaudio/+bug/1838151/+subscriptions > -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to bluez in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1838151 Title: Poor quality audio with modern Bluetooth headsets in HSP/HFP. Missing wide band speech support (Bluetooth A2DP codecs). Status in PulseAudio: New Status in bluez package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in linux package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in pulseaudio package in Ubuntu: In Progress Status in Arch Linux: New Bug description: Bluetooth HSP/HFP audio quality is poor on Ubuntu comparative to all other major platforms (Windows, MacOS, ChromeOS, Android, iOS). Modern Bluetooth headsets (such as the Bose QC series headphones, many others) are capable of using HFP 1.6 with mSBC 16kHz audio encoding. As it currently stands, Ubuntu defaults to only supporting HSP headsets using 8kHz CVSD, and is incapable of supporting HFP 1.6 at this time. The ChromiumOS team recently tackled this issue - https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=843048 Their efforts may assist in bringing this to Ubuntu, however it appears that there are quite a lot of differences considering they have developed their own audio server solution etc. The Bluetooth Telephony Working Group published the HFP 1.6 spec in May 2011 - https://www.bluetooth.org/docman/handlers/downloaddoc.ashx?doc_id=238193 Patches have been proposed in the past for this issue to the kernel and PulseAudio: PulseAudio: https://patchwork.freedesktop.org/patch/245272/ Kernel: https://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-bluetooth/msg76982.html It appears that the Chromium OS team applied the same kernel patch: https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/third_party/kernel/+/77dd0cb94c1713a8a12f6e392955dfa64c430e54
Re: [Touch-packages] [Bug 1838151] Re: Poor quality audio with modern Bluetooth headsets in HSP/HFP. Missing wide band speech support (Bluetooth A2DP codecs).
Generally speaking, the "USB soundcard" is the last fallback of an experienced Linux user if you are unhappy what is in your laptop. Be it the Bluetooth software stack or the fighting with crappy driver support for the physical sound card hardware. But thanks for pointing out that solution. Andreas Am Mi., 14. Okt. 2020 um 11:05 Uhr schrieb Falc <1838...@bugs.launchpad.net >: > I can confirm that the above solution works well. I bought a similar but > slightly cheaper one: > > https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B086L2WNPG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8=1 > > Basically the dongle pairs directly to your headset and acts as a usb > sound card. By far the easiest solution I've found. > > -- > You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug > report. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1838151 > > Title: > Poor quality audio with modern Bluetooth headsets in HSP/HFP. Missing > wide band speech support (Bluetooth A2DP codecs). > > To manage notifications about this bug go to: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/pulseaudio/+bug/1838151/+subscriptions > -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to bluez in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1838151 Title: Poor quality audio with modern Bluetooth headsets in HSP/HFP. Missing wide band speech support (Bluetooth A2DP codecs). Status in PulseAudio: New Status in bluez package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in linux package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in pulseaudio package in Ubuntu: In Progress Status in Arch Linux: New Bug description: Bluetooth HSP/HFP audio quality is poor on Ubuntu comparative to all other major platforms (Windows, MacOS, ChromeOS, Android, iOS). Modern Bluetooth headsets (such as the Bose QC series headphones, many others) are capable of using HFP 1.6 with mSBC 16kHz audio encoding. As it currently stands, Ubuntu defaults to only supporting HSP headsets using 8kHz CVSD, and is incapable of supporting HFP 1.6 at this time. The ChromiumOS team recently tackled this issue - https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=843048 Their efforts may assist in bringing this to Ubuntu, however it appears that there are quite a lot of differences considering they have developed their own audio server solution etc. The Bluetooth Telephony Working Group published the HFP 1.6 spec in May 2011 - https://www.bluetooth.org/docman/handlers/downloaddoc.ashx?doc_id=238193 Patches have been proposed in the past for this issue to the kernel and PulseAudio: PulseAudio: https://patchwork.freedesktop.org/patch/245272/ Kernel: https://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-bluetooth/msg76982.html It appears that the Chromium OS team applied the same kernel patch: https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/third_party/kernel/+/77dd0cb94c1713a8a12f6e392955dfa64c430e54 ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 19.04 Package: pulseaudio 1:12.2-2ubuntu3 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 5.0.0-20.21-generic 5.0.8 Uname: Linux 5.0.0-20-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.20.10-0ubuntu27.1 Architecture: amd64 AudioDevicesInUse: USERPID ACCESS COMMAND /dev/snd/controlC0: jnappi 2777 F pulseaudio CurrentDesktop: ubuntu:GNOME Date: Sat Jul 27 11:08:29 2019 EcryptfsInUse: Yes InstallationDate: Installed on 2017-11-04 (629 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 17.10 "Artful Aardvark" - Release amd64 (20171018) ProcEnviron: PATH=(custom, no user) XDG_RUNTIME_DIR= LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: pulseaudio UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to disco on 2019-07-18 (9 days ago) dmi.bios.date: 06/07/2016 dmi.bios.vendor: LENOVO dmi.bios.version: R07ET67W (2.07 ) dmi.board.asset.tag: Not Available dmi.board.name: 20FW000TUS dmi.board.vendor: LENOVO dmi.board.version: SDK0J40705 WIN dmi.chassis.asset.tag: No Asset Information dmi.chassis.type: 10 dmi.chassis.vendor: LENOVO dmi.chassis.version: None dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnLENOVO:bvrR07ET67W(2.07):bd06/07/2016:svnLENOVO:pn20FW000TUS:pvrThinkPadT460p:rvnLENOVO:rn20FW000TUS:rvrSDK0J40705WIN:cvnLENOVO:ct10:cvrNone: dmi.product.family: ThinkPad T460p dmi.product.name: 20FW000TUS dmi.product.sku: LENOVO_MT_20FW_BU_Think_FM_ThinkPad T460p dmi.product.version: ThinkPad T460p dmi.sys.vendor: LENOVO To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/pulseaudio/+bug/1838151/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Touch-packages] [Bug 1838151] Re: Poor quality audio with modern Bluetooth headsets in HSP/HFP. Missing wide band speech support.
How feasible would it be to backport (steal) the Android Bluetooth stack to Ubuntu? Kyle Van Wagenen <1838...@bugs.launchpad.net> schrieb am Sa., 14. Dez. 2019, 20:55: > This issue impacts the experience with Ubuntu significantly. Android, > Windows, and OS X all sound much better with a Bluetooth headset when on > calls, playing games, or listening to music while using the headset > microphone. > > -- > You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug > report. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1838151 > > Title: > Poor quality audio with modern Bluetooth headsets in HSP/HFP. Missing > wide band speech support. > > To manage notifications about this bug go to: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1838151/+subscriptions > -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to pulseaudio in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1838151 Title: Poor quality audio with modern Bluetooth headsets in HSP/HFP. Missing wide band speech support. Status in linux package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in pulseaudio package in Ubuntu: Triaged Status in Arch Linux: New Bug description: Bluetooth HSP/HFP audio quality is poor on Ubuntu comparative to all other major platforms (Windows, MacOS, ChromeOS, Android, iOS). Modern Bluetooth headsets (such as the Bose QC series headphones, many others) are capable of using HFP 1.6 with mSBC 16kHz audio encoding. As it currently stands, Ubuntu defaults to only supporting HSP headsets using 8kHz CVSD, and is incapable of supporting HFP 1.6 at this time. The ChromiumOS team recently tackled this issue - https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=843048 Their efforts may assist in bringing this to Ubuntu, however it appears that there are quite a lot of differences considering they have developed their own audio server solution etc. The Bluetooth Telephony Working Group published the HFP 1.6 spec in May 2011 - https://www.bluetooth.org/docman/handlers/downloaddoc.ashx?doc_id=238193 Patches have been proposed in the past for this issue to the kernel and PulseAudio: PulseAudio: https://patchwork.freedesktop.org/patch/245272/ Kernel: https://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-bluetooth/msg76982.html It appears that the Chromium OS team applied the same kernel patch: https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/third_party/kernel/+/77dd0cb94c1713a8a12f6e392955dfa64c430e54 ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 19.04 Package: pulseaudio 1:12.2-2ubuntu3 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 5.0.0-20.21-generic 5.0.8 Uname: Linux 5.0.0-20-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.20.10-0ubuntu27.1 Architecture: amd64 AudioDevicesInUse: USERPID ACCESS COMMAND /dev/snd/controlC0: jnappi 2777 F pulseaudio CurrentDesktop: ubuntu:GNOME Date: Sat Jul 27 11:08:29 2019 EcryptfsInUse: Yes InstallationDate: Installed on 2017-11-04 (629 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 17.10 "Artful Aardvark" - Release amd64 (20171018) ProcEnviron: PATH=(custom, no user) XDG_RUNTIME_DIR= LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: pulseaudio UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to disco on 2019-07-18 (9 days ago) dmi.bios.date: 06/07/2016 dmi.bios.vendor: LENOVO dmi.bios.version: R07ET67W (2.07 ) dmi.board.asset.tag: Not Available dmi.board.name: 20FW000TUS dmi.board.vendor: LENOVO dmi.board.version: SDK0J40705 WIN dmi.chassis.asset.tag: No Asset Information dmi.chassis.type: 10 dmi.chassis.vendor: LENOVO dmi.chassis.version: None dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnLENOVO:bvrR07ET67W(2.07):bd06/07/2016:svnLENOVO:pn20FW000TUS:pvrThinkPadT460p:rvnLENOVO:rn20FW000TUS:rvrSDK0J40705WIN:cvnLENOVO:ct10:cvrNone: dmi.product.family: ThinkPad T460p dmi.product.name: 20FW000TUS dmi.product.sku: LENOVO_MT_20FW_BU_Think_FM_ThinkPad T460p dmi.product.version: ThinkPad T460p dmi.sys.vendor: LENOVO To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1838151/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1581433] Re: free output in german translation line up wrong colums
added the output again as an attachment because the variable width display of the output is not helpful. Basically, one useful idea would be to check the length of the translations when outputting, and either complain or cut off the translation. For free the columnar output is more relevant if the label is complete. ** Attachment added: "sample.output" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/procps/+bug/1581433/+attachment/4661980/+files/sample.output -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to procps in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1581433 Title: free output in german translation line up wrong colums Status in procps package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: Notice how the free column for swap shows 0 in the german translation. andreas@asterix:~$ free -m gesamt benutzt frei gemns. Puffer/Cache verfügbar Speicher: 159634934714411193884 9779 Auslagerungsspeicher:7981 07981 andreas@asterix:~$ LANG=C free -m totalusedfree shared buff/cache available Mem: 159634935714211193886 9778 Swap: 7981 07981 andreas@asterix:~$ free gesamt benutzt frei gemns. Puffer/Cache verfügbar Speicher:16346836 5051476 7317744 1144548 3977616 10017704 Auslagerungsspeicher: 8173408 0 8173408 andreas@asterix:~$ LANG=C free totalusedfree shared buff/cache available Mem: 16346836 5052300 7316848 1144292 3977688 10017188 Swap: 8173408 0 8173408 ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 16.04 Package: procps 2:3.3.10-4ubuntu2 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.4.0-22.39-generic 4.4.8 Uname: Linux 4.4.0-22-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.20.1-0ubuntu2 Architecture: amd64 CurrentDesktop: Unity Date: Fri May 13 10:14:05 2016 InstallationDate: Installed on 2016-04-22 (21 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS "Xenial Xerus" - Release amd64 (20160420.1) SourcePackage: procps UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/procps/+bug/1581433/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1581433] [NEW] free output in german translation line up wrong colums
Public bug reported: Notice how the free column for swap shows 0 in the german translation. andreas@asterix:~$ free -m gesamt benutzt frei gemns. Puffer/Cache verfügbar Speicher: 159634934714411193884 9779 Auslagerungsspeicher:7981 07981 andreas@asterix:~$ LANG=C free -m totalusedfree shared buff/cache available Mem: 1596349357142111938869778 Swap: 7981 07981 andreas@asterix:~$ free gesamt benutzt frei gemns. Puffer/Cache verfügbar Speicher:16346836 5051476 7317744 1144548 3977616 10017704 Auslagerungsspeicher: 8173408 0 8173408 andreas@asterix:~$ LANG=C free totalusedfree shared buff/cache available Mem: 16346836 5052300 7316848 1144292 397768810017188 Swap: 8173408 0 8173408 ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 16.04 Package: procps 2:3.3.10-4ubuntu2 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.4.0-22.39-generic 4.4.8 Uname: Linux 4.4.0-22-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.20.1-0ubuntu2 Architecture: amd64 CurrentDesktop: Unity Date: Fri May 13 10:14:05 2016 InstallationDate: Installed on 2016-04-22 (21 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS "Xenial Xerus" - Release amd64 (20160420.1) SourcePackage: procps UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) ** Affects: procps (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags: amd64 apport-bug string-fix xenial -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to procps in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1581433 Title: free output in german translation line up wrong colums Status in procps package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: Notice how the free column for swap shows 0 in the german translation. andreas@asterix:~$ free -m gesamt benutzt frei gemns. Puffer/Cache verfügbar Speicher: 159634934714411193884 9779 Auslagerungsspeicher:7981 07981 andreas@asterix:~$ LANG=C free -m totalusedfree shared buff/cache available Mem: 159634935714211193886 9778 Swap: 7981 07981 andreas@asterix:~$ free gesamt benutzt frei gemns. Puffer/Cache verfügbar Speicher:16346836 5051476 7317744 1144548 3977616 10017704 Auslagerungsspeicher: 8173408 0 8173408 andreas@asterix:~$ LANG=C free totalusedfree shared buff/cache available Mem: 16346836 5052300 7316848 1144292 3977688 10017188 Swap: 8173408 0 8173408 ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 16.04 Package: procps 2:3.3.10-4ubuntu2 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.4.0-22.39-generic 4.4.8 Uname: Linux 4.4.0-22-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.20.1-0ubuntu2 Architecture: amd64 CurrentDesktop: Unity Date: Fri May 13 10:14:05 2016 InstallationDate: Installed on 2016-04-22 (21 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS "Xenial Xerus" - Release amd64 (20160420.1) SourcePackage: procps UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/procps/+bug/1581433/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1461530] [NEW] Translation make output hard to read
Public bug reported: andreas@asterix:~/projects/uber/uber.data.processor/uber/data/processor$ free -m Gesamt Belegt Frei Gemeinsam Puffer Cache Speicher: 15965 14517 1447 1073204 5516 -/+ Puffer/Cache: 8796 7168 Auslagerungsdatei: 7982 3472 4510 (bad to see with variable width fonts) Basically this is an issue with translations destroying the tabular output. This can be fixed in two ways, either fix all the translation strings, or make free truncate the output (even truncated labels should be useable for something like free, but then as a long time user I probably don't need labels, but without the column alignment the data is hard to read). ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 14.04 Package: procps 1:3.3.9-1ubuntu2.2 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.16.0-37.51~14.04.1-generic 3.16.7-ckt9 Uname: Linux 3.16.0-37-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.14.1-0ubuntu3.11 Architecture: amd64 CurrentDesktop: Unity Date: Wed Jun 3 14:37:09 2015 InstallationDate: Installed on 2015-05-15 (18 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS Trusty Tahr - Release amd64 (20150218.1) SourcePackage: procps UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (user-confirmed fresh install) ** Affects: procps (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags: amd64 apport-bug trusty ** Attachment added: terminal output of free https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1461530/+attachment/4409120/+files/free-screenshot.png ** Description changed: andreas@asterix:~/projects/uber/uber.data.processor/uber/data/processor$ free -m - Gesamt Belegt Frei Gemeinsam Puffer Cache + Gesamt Belegt Frei Gemeinsam Puffer Cache Speicher: 15965 14517 1447 1073204 5516 -/+ Puffer/Cache: 8796 7168 Auslagerungsdatei: 7982 3472 4510 (bad to see with variable width fonts) Basically this is an issue with translations destroying the tabular output. This can be fixed in two ways, either fix all the translation strings, or make free truncate the output (even truncated labels should be useable for something like free, but then as a long time user I probably don't need labels, but without the column alignment the data is hard to read). ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 14.04 Package: procps 1:3.3.9-1ubuntu2.2 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.16.0-37.51~14.04.1-generic 3.16.7-ckt9 Uname: Linux 3.16.0-37-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.14.1-0ubuntu3.11 Architecture: amd64 CurrentDesktop: Unity Date: Wed Jun 3 14:37:09 2015 InstallationDate: Installed on 2015-05-15 (18 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS Trusty Tahr - Release amd64 (20150218.1) SourcePackage: procps - UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) + UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (user-confirmed fresh install) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to procps in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1461530 Title: Translation make output hard to read Status in procps package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: andreas@asterix:~/projects/uber/uber.data.processor/uber/data/processor$ free -m Gesamt Belegt Frei Gemeinsam Puffer Cache Speicher: 15965 14517 1447 1073204 5516 -/+ Puffer/Cache: 8796 7168 Auslagerungsdatei: 7982 3472 4510 (bad to see with variable width fonts) Basically this is an issue with translations destroying the tabular output. This can be fixed in two ways, either fix all the translation strings, or make free truncate the output (even truncated labels should be useable for something like free, but then as a long time user I probably don't need labels, but without the column alignment the data is hard to read). ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 14.04 Package: procps 1:3.3.9-1ubuntu2.2 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.16.0-37.51~14.04.1-generic 3.16.7-ckt9 Uname: Linux 3.16.0-37-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.14.1-0ubuntu3.11 Architecture: amd64 CurrentDesktop: Unity Date: Wed Jun 3 14:37:09 2015 InstallationDate: Installed on 2015-05-15 (18 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS Trusty Tahr - Release amd64 (20150218.1) SourcePackage: procps UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (user-confirmed fresh install) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/procps/+bug/1461530/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
