[Touch-packages] [Bug 1451096] Re: wrong rsyslog dependency in ubuntu-minimal
AFAICT systemd is currently setup to not record it's journal to disk. I only see the current boot in systemd: sudo journalctl --list-boots shows only 1 entry. Obviously we would want to change that first.. do you know if there is already a bug on it? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to ubuntu-meta in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1451096 Title: wrong rsyslog dependency in ubuntu-minimal Status in ubuntu-meta package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: According to dependencies of ubuntu-minimal rsyslog is considered to be part of minimal supported system. With the switch to systemd it's obsolete: the journald is shipped and running anyway and it already provides secure logging by default. IT would be better to remove rsyslog from ubuntu-minimal dependencies (and, ideally, from default install as well) and enables "ForwardToSyslog=no" in /etc/systemd/journald.conf - the users who are willing to install advanced legacy logging will still be able to do that just fine, but really does not belong to the bare-minimum system. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/1451096/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1451096] Re: wrong rsyslog dependency in ubuntu-minimal
Not that I know of. Adding "mkdir -p /var/log/journal" to ubuntu's systemd package should be trivial though. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to ubuntu-meta in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1451096 Title: wrong rsyslog dependency in ubuntu-minimal Status in ubuntu-meta package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: According to dependencies of ubuntu-minimal rsyslog is considered to be part of minimal supported system. With the switch to systemd it's obsolete: the journald is shipped and running anyway and it already provides secure logging by default. IT would be better to remove rsyslog from ubuntu-minimal dependencies (and, ideally, from default install as well) and enables "ForwardToSyslog=no" in /etc/systemd/journald.conf - the users who are willing to install advanced legacy logging will still be able to do that just fine, but really does not belong to the bare-minimum system. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/1451096/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1451096] Re: wrong rsyslog dependency in ubuntu-minimal
As of 16.10 ubuntu-minimal "Recommends: rsyslog" which I thin is still wrong but not as bad as dependency. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to ubuntu-meta in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1451096 Title: wrong rsyslog dependency in ubuntu-minimal Status in ubuntu-meta package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: According to dependencies of ubuntu-minimal rsyslog is considered to be part of minimal supported system. With the switch to systemd it's obsolete: the journald is shipped and running anyway and it already provides secure logging by default. IT would be better to remove rsyslog from ubuntu-minimal dependencies (and, ideally, from default install as well) and enables "ForwardToSyslog=no" in /etc/systemd/journald.conf - the users who are willing to install advanced legacy logging will still be able to do that just fine, but really does not belong to the bare-minimum system. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/1451096/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1451096] Re: wrong rsyslog dependency in ubuntu-minimal
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) Status: New => Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to ubuntu-meta in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1451096 Title: wrong rsyslog dependency in ubuntu-minimal Status in ubuntu-meta package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: According to dependencies of ubuntu-minimal rsyslog is considered to be part of minimal supported system. With the switch to systemd it's obsolete: the journald is shipped and running anyway and it already provides secure logging by default. IT would be better to remove rsyslog from ubuntu-minimal dependencies (and, ideally, from default install as well) and enables "ForwardToSyslog=no" in /etc/systemd/journald.conf - the users who are willing to install advanced legacy logging will still be able to do that just fine, but really does not belong to the bare-minimum system. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/1451096/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1451096] Re: wrong rsyslog dependency in ubuntu-minimal
stumbled on this bug. was looking into removing rsyslog. before i hit this bug, i had already mkdir -p /var/log/journal and set Storage=persistent in "/etc/systemd/journald.conf" everything is working great interesting note on my system apt-cache --installed rdepends rsyslog rsyslog Reverse Depends: initscripts ubuntu-minimal but apt-cache --installed --no-breaks rdepends rsyslog rsyslog Reverse Depends: ubuntu-minimal i think that depends comes from the Breaks stanza in the deb file. i think that is a bug in apt-cache, but I thought it was worth mentioning. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to ubuntu-meta in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1451096 Title: wrong rsyslog dependency in ubuntu-minimal Status in ubuntu-meta package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: According to dependencies of ubuntu-minimal rsyslog is considered to be part of minimal supported system. With the switch to systemd it's obsolete: the journald is shipped and running anyway and it already provides secure logging by default. IT would be better to remove rsyslog from ubuntu-minimal dependencies (and, ideally, from default install as well) and enables "ForwardToSyslog=no" in /etc/systemd/journald.conf - the users who are willing to install advanced legacy logging will still be able to do that just fine, but really does not belong to the bare-minimum system. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/1451096/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp