[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468834] Re: lightdm does not source .xsession
To me it looks like lightdm does the right thing in /usr/sbin/lightdm- session. According to the files in /etc/X11/Xsession.d, which belong to x11-common, the intended behavior seems to be to not source ~/.xsession. Which standard protocol are you referring to? Are you possibly mixing it up with ~/.xsessionrc, which is sourced by lightdm if it exists? ** Package changed: lightdm (Ubuntu) = xorg (Ubuntu) ** Changed in: xorg (Ubuntu) Status: New = Incomplete -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to xorg in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1468834 Title: lightdm does not source .xsession Status in xorg package in Ubuntu: Incomplete Bug description: There is a decades-old standard protocol for starting up a user's X session, which requires display managers to source the user's ~/.xsession file. lightdm fails to do this. See also Bug #1468832. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1468834/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468834] Re: lightdm does not source .xsession
Try: man xsession The X window system has been reading this file since forever. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to xorg in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1468834 Title: lightdm does not source .xsession Status in xorg package in Ubuntu: Incomplete Bug description: There is a decades-old standard protocol for starting up a user's X session, which requires display managers to source the user's ~/.xsession file. lightdm fails to do this. See also Bug #1468832. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1468834/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468834] Re: lightdm does not source .xsession
Ok, thanks. Can't help feeling that the rest of the x11-common package has diverged from that man page. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to xorg in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1468834 Title: lightdm does not source .xsession Status in xorg package in Ubuntu: Incomplete Bug description: There is a decades-old standard protocol for starting up a user's X session, which requires display managers to source the user's ~/.xsession file. lightdm fails to do this. See also Bug #1468832. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1468834/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468834] Re: lightdm does not source .xsession
I don't follow the reason for closing this... It seems like maybe you're thinking I said this bug is all wrong, but it's not. The point is that instead of *sourcing* $HOME/.xsession, the Xsession system script should *exec* it if it exists, completely bypassing the rest of the system Xsession script. The debian manual I linked to actually describes that behavior. The point is, Ubuntu appears to ignore it entirely. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to xorg in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1468834 Title: lightdm does not source .xsession Status in xorg package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: There is a decades-old standard protocol for starting up a user's X session, which requires display managers to source the user's ~/.xsession file. lightdm fails to do this. See also Bug #1468832. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1468834/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468834] Re: lightdm does not source .xsession
From the debian manual: any user who defines ~/.xsession or ~/.Xsession is able to customize the action of /etc/X11/Xsession by completely overriding the system code. It does (or did) that by executing the script via exec... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to xorg in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1468834 Title: lightdm does not source .xsession Status in xorg package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: There is a decades-old standard protocol for starting up a user's X session, which requires display managers to source the user's ~/.xsession file. lightdm fails to do this. See also Bug #1468832. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1468834/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468834] Re: lightdm does not source .xsession
Please study /etc/X11/Xsession.d/50x11-common_determine-startup If I understand it correctly, ~/.xsession may be used as a fall back script, and does normally not apply if you start the session from e.g. lightdm or GDM. The $STARTUP variable gets set in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/20x11-common_process-args -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to xorg in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1468834 Title: lightdm does not source .xsession Status in xorg package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: There is a decades-old standard protocol for starting up a user's X session, which requires display managers to source the user's ~/.xsession file. lightdm fails to do this. See also Bug #1468832. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1468834/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468834] Re: lightdm does not source .xsession
** Changed in: xorg (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete = New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to xorg in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1468834 Title: lightdm does not source .xsession Status in xorg package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: There is a decades-old standard protocol for starting up a user's X session, which requires display managers to source the user's ~/.xsession file. lightdm fails to do this. See also Bug #1468832. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1468834/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468834] Re: lightdm does not source .xsession
Now it sounds as if you are mostly talking about the use of ~/.profile. But sure, the lack of cross-distro standards is sad. That's true for other things but config files, btw. Anyway, I noticed this comment: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1468832/comments/7 So closing this bug. ** Changed in: xorg (Ubuntu) Status: New = Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to xorg in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1468834 Title: lightdm does not source .xsession Status in xorg package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: There is a decades-old standard protocol for starting up a user's X session, which requires display managers to source the user's ~/.xsession file. lightdm fails to do this. See also Bug #1468832. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1468834/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1468834] Re: lightdm does not source .xsession
It may well have, but it's a change that's bad. For what it's worth, the Debian manuals still document this: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian- reference/ch07.en.html#_customizing_the_x_session_classic_method I've been a member of the Linux community for 20 years--Take comfort in the fact that these shell scripts have often changed rather arbitrarily over the years on many different distributions, and the owners of those changes seemingly do not understand the consequences of the changes they have made. This stuff was designed this way for a reason... It's supposed to make it easy for the user to customize their X window system session regardless of what shell they use or how they have their environment set up. This change is one of several that actually work against that goal. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to xorg in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1468834 Title: lightdm does not source .xsession Status in xorg package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: There is a decades-old standard protocol for starting up a user's X session, which requires display managers to source the user's ~/.xsession file. lightdm fails to do this. See also Bug #1468832. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1468834/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
