[Touch-packages] [Bug 1604705] Re: Don't scare users who want to use propose

2016-07-26 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas 
The current text is quite confused. (“Proposed updates are only for
testing updates”? No. They aren’t *for* testing updates, they *are*
updates.) And its lack of wrapping single-handedly makes the whole
window much wider than it should be. So there’s a lot of room for
improvement.

However, it’s strange to acknowledge that “enabling proposed can make
the system unstable” but then immediately to claim that we should “not
discourage [people from] using it”. Of course we should discourage
people from making their system unstable! If there was no reason to
discourage -proposed, there would be no reason not to have it on by
default, which would be tantamount to it not existing at all.

Now, there are subtler and cruder methods of discouragement. Putting it
in a “Developer Options” tab is by itself a subtle discouragement: “I’m
not a developer, maybe I should stay away”. My current design goes
further, putting it in a “Contributor Console” that’s a separate utility
altogether. 

As long as that app remains unimplemented, I would use the same text as I 
specified there:
Check for updates being tested (-proposed)
And replace the label above with a caption underneath, something like:
Use proposed updates if you’re willing to report bugs on any problems that 
occur.

** Changed in: software-properties (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Triaged

** Summary changed:

- Don't scare users who want to use propose
+ Don't scare users who want to use -proposed

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Title:
  Don't scare users who want to use -proposed

Status in software-properties package in Ubuntu:
  Triaged

Bug description:
  The GUI is intended for use by normal user and enabling proposed can
  make the system unstable. Despite this, some users want to use early
  release of packages and the current message discourage them of doing
  so.

  It should be reworded to explain clearly that this channel contains
  early release of packages and not discourage them of using it.

  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 16.10
  Package: software-properties-gtk 0.96.24.1
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.4.0-30.49-generic 4.4.13
  Uname: Linux 4.4.0-30-generic x86_64
  ApportVersion: 2.20.2-0ubuntu1
  Architecture: amd64
  CurrentDesktop: Unity
  Date: Wed Jul 20 09:43:11 2016
  InstallationDate: Installed on 2013-09-03 (1050 days ago)
  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 13.10 "Saucy Salamander" - Alpha amd64 (20130902)
  PackageArchitecture: all
  SourcePackage: software-properties
  UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

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[Touch-packages] [Bug 1604705] Re: Don't scare users who want to use propose

2016-07-22 Thread Sebastien Bacher 
Thanks for the report. Is the current wording really that discouraging?
It just warns user that proposed version didn't go through full testing
yet and might create issue, which is a fair statement. No objection to
change it if design comes with another text though...

** Changed in: software-properties (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Low

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Title:
  Don't scare users who want to use propose

Status in software-properties package in Ubuntu:
  New

Bug description:
  The GUI is intended for use by normal user and enabling proposed can
  make the system unstable. Despite this, some users want to use early
  release of packages and the current message discourage them of doing
  so.

  It should be reworded to explain clearly that this channel contains
  early release of packages and not discourage them of using it.

  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 16.10
  Package: software-properties-gtk 0.96.24.1
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.4.0-30.49-generic 4.4.13
  Uname: Linux 4.4.0-30-generic x86_64
  ApportVersion: 2.20.2-0ubuntu1
  Architecture: amd64
  CurrentDesktop: Unity
  Date: Wed Jul 20 09:43:11 2016
  InstallationDate: Installed on 2013-09-03 (1050 days ago)
  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 13.10 "Saucy Salamander" - Alpha amd64 (20130902)
  PackageArchitecture: all
  SourcePackage: software-properties
  UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

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