[Touch-packages] [Bug 1825812] Re: Daily apt update timer downloads all dist-upgradable packages
Regarding the optimal behaviour u-u spends significant amount of CPU time on deciding which are the upgradable packages especially if there are held packages thus there is a tradeoff between network and CPU usage. I believe both of the options have their benefits, and on a desktop system -updates are more likely to be installed quickly after downloading them thus software-properties seems to be doing the right thing by requesting all packages to be downloaded. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to apt in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1825812 Title: Daily apt update timer downloads all dist-upgradable packages Status in apt package in Ubuntu: New Status in software-properties package in Ubuntu: New Status in unattended-upgrades package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in update-notifier package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: [Impact] apt-daily.service accidentally runs apt-get -d dist-upgrade after the first time it runs unattended-upgrades -d due to the latter reusing the stamp of the former. This means that machines download all packages that can be dist- upgraded rather than just the security updates unattended-upgrades will install; which means they might be wasting bandwidth. [Test case] TODO [Regression potential] TODO To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1825812/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1825812] Re: Daily apt update timer downloads all dist-upgradable packages
Unattended-upgrades in not affected by this bug because it downloads only packages it would install and the configuration files it ships are set to only do that. It looks like software properties changes the files to include those keys. https://sources.debian.org/src/software-properties/0.96.20.2-2/softwareproperties/SoftwareProperties.py/?hl=605#L605 ** Also affects: software-properties (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to apt in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1825812 Title: Daily apt update timer downloads all dist-upgradable packages Status in apt package in Ubuntu: New Status in software-properties package in Ubuntu: New Status in unattended-upgrades package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in update-notifier package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: [Impact] apt-daily.service accidentally runs apt-get -d dist-upgrade after the first time it runs unattended-upgrades -d due to the latter reusing the stamp of the former. This means that machines download all packages that can be dist- upgraded rather than just the security updates unattended-upgrades will install; which means they might be wasting bandwidth. [Test case] TODO [Regression potential] TODO To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1825812/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1825812] Re: Daily apt update timer downloads all dist-upgradable packages
** Changed in: unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu) Status: New => Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to apt in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1825812 Title: Daily apt update timer downloads all dist-upgradable packages Status in apt package in Ubuntu: New Status in unattended-upgrades package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in update-notifier package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: [Impact] apt-daily.service accidentally runs apt-get -d dist-upgrade after the first time it runs unattended-upgrades -d due to the latter reusing the stamp of the former. This means that machines download all packages that can be dist- upgraded rather than just the security updates unattended-upgrades will install; which means they might be wasting bandwidth. [Test case] TODO [Regression potential] TODO To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1825812/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1825812] Re: Daily apt update timer downloads all dist-upgradable packages
Hmm well it was not what I intended, otherwise I'd not have bothered with the u-u option. But um, worth weighing the options. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to apt in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1825812 Title: Daily apt update timer downloads all dist-upgradable packages Status in apt package in Ubuntu: New Status in unattended-upgrades package in Ubuntu: New Status in update-notifier package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: [Impact] apt-daily.service accidentally runs apt-get -d dist-upgrade after the first time it runs unattended-upgrades -d due to the latter reusing the stamp of the former. This means that machines download all packages that can be dist- upgraded rather than just the security updates unattended-upgrades will install; which means they might be wasting bandwidth. [Test case] TODO [Regression potential] TODO To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1825812/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1825812] Re: Daily apt update timer downloads all dist-upgradable packages
I somehow thought that this was intentional behavior, that we would download all of the packages so that they would be available to apply quickly, even if we would only automatically install the security updates. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to apt in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1825812 Title: Daily apt update timer downloads all dist-upgradable packages Status in apt package in Ubuntu: New Status in unattended-upgrades package in Ubuntu: New Status in update-notifier package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: [Impact] apt-daily.service accidentally runs apt-get -d dist-upgrade after the first time it runs unattended-upgrades -d due to the latter reusing the stamp of the former. This means that machines download all packages that can be dist- upgraded rather than just the security updates unattended-upgrades will install; which means they might be wasting bandwidth. [Test case] TODO [Regression potential] TODO To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1825812/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Touch-packages] [Bug 1825812] Re: Daily apt update timer downloads all dist-upgradable packages
This is caused by these options: $ grep -R Download-Upgradeable-Packages /etc/apt /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic:APT::Periodic::Download-Upgradeable-Packages "1"; /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20auto-upgrades:APT::Periodic::Download-Upgradeable-Packages "1"; They should be 0 w/ recent APT (which runs unattended-upgrade --download-only based on the unattended-upgrades interval), but are set to 1, which means we download all upgradable packages before running u-u --download-only. ** Also affects: update-notifier (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Also affects: unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to apt in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1825812 Title: Daily apt update timer downloads all dist-upgradable packages Status in apt package in Ubuntu: New Status in unattended-upgrades package in Ubuntu: New Status in update-notifier package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: [Impact] apt-daily.service accidentally runs apt-get -d dist-upgrade after the first time it runs unattended-upgrades -d due to the latter reusing the stamp of the former. This means that machines download all packages that can be dist- upgraded rather than just the security updates unattended-upgrades will install; which means they might be wasting bandwidth. [Test case] TODO [Regression potential] TODO To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1825812/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
