[Touch-packages] [Bug 2038490] Re: Apt and apt-get reporting different lists of packages to be held back/upgraded
It's fine, it's pretty non-obvious that the two differ in some behaviors and even more so that it's intentional. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to apt in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2038490 Title: Apt and apt-get reporting different lists of packages to be held back/upgraded Status in apt package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: When running apt-get from a script (or command line), I see a different list of packages to be held back / upgraded vs when I run apt. I am running Kubuntu 23.04. The version of apt and apt-get I first noticed the problem in is 2.6.0ubuntu0.1 I also see the problem on my servers running Ubuntu 22.04.3 with apt and apt-get version 2.4.10. I upgraded my copy on Kubuntu 23.04 to 2.7.6 through the launchpad.net ppa deity/sid (actually version 2.7.6+0~202309200852~ubuntu23.04.1) and the problem remains. I've spent a few hours looking for the correct place to search for this being already reported and have reviewed recent commits at https://salsa.debian.org/apt-team/apt. I'm hesitant but I do not see any other mention of this issue. I have tried deleting my /var/cache/apt and running apt update. To duplicate the issue one needs to have an Ubuntu version that has not yet received the update to linux-headers-6.2.0-34, et al. I attempted to duplicate the issue on a fresh install of Ubuntu Desktop 23.04, but discovered that the system is upgraded to linux 6.2.0-34 during the install process. Please see the output of the apt-get and apt commands below. $ apt-get update Hit:1 http://ftp.usf.edu/pub/ubuntu lunar InRelease Hit:2 http://ftp.usf.edu/pub/ubuntu lunar-updates InRelease Hit:3 http://ftp.usf.edu/pub/ubuntu lunar-backports InRelease Hit:4 https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu lunar InRelease Hit:5 http://ftp.usf.edu/pub/ubuntu lunar-security InRelease Hit:6 http://packages.microsoft.com/repos/code stable InRelease Hit:7 https://repo.steampowered.com/steam stable InRelease Hit:8 https://pkg.cloudflareclient.com jammy InRelease Hit:9 https://download.sublimetext.com apt/stable/ InRelease Get:10 https://pkgs.tailscale.com/stable/ubuntu jammy InRelease Ign:11 https://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb stable InRelease Hit:12 https://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb stable Release Hit:13 https://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian jammy InRelease Ign:16 https://download.webmin.com/download/repository sarge InRelease Hit:17 https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/cappelikan/ppa/ubuntu lunar InRelease Hit:18 https://download.webmin.com/download/repository sarge Release Hit:21 https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/teejee2008/foss/ubuntu lunar InRelease Hit:14 https://packagecloud.io/github/git-lfs/ubuntu lunar InRelease Hit:15 https://packagecloud.io/eugeny/tabby/ubuntu jammy InRelease Hit:22 https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/cubic-wizard/release/ubuntu lunar InRelease Hit:23 https://repo.waydro.id bullseye InRelease Hit:24 https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/deity/sid/ubuntu lunar InRelease Hit:25 https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/papirus/papirus/ubuntu lunar InRelease Fetched 6,557 B in 3s (2,503 B/s) Reading package lists... Done $ apt-get upgrade --assume-no Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Reading state information... Done Calculating upgrade... Done The following packages have been kept back: grub-efi-amd64-bin grub-efi-amd64-signed linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic The following packages will be upgraded: code freerdp2-x11 libfreerdp-client2-2 libfree
[Touch-packages] [Bug 2038490] Re: Apt and apt-get reporting different lists of packages to be held back/upgraded
Thank you. I'd wondered how something seeingly so significant had gone unnoticed. I apologize for the invalid bug report. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to apt in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2038490 Title: Apt and apt-get reporting different lists of packages to be held back/upgraded Status in apt package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: When running apt-get from a script (or command line), I see a different list of packages to be held back / upgraded vs when I run apt. I am running Kubuntu 23.04. The version of apt and apt-get I first noticed the problem in is 2.6.0ubuntu0.1 I also see the problem on my servers running Ubuntu 22.04.3 with apt and apt-get version 2.4.10. I upgraded my copy on Kubuntu 23.04 to 2.7.6 through the launchpad.net ppa deity/sid (actually version 2.7.6+0~202309200852~ubuntu23.04.1) and the problem remains. I've spent a few hours looking for the correct place to search for this being already reported and have reviewed recent commits at https://salsa.debian.org/apt-team/apt. I'm hesitant but I do not see any other mention of this issue. I have tried deleting my /var/cache/apt and running apt update. To duplicate the issue one needs to have an Ubuntu version that has not yet received the update to linux-headers-6.2.0-34, et al. I attempted to duplicate the issue on a fresh install of Ubuntu Desktop 23.04, but discovered that the system is upgraded to linux 6.2.0-34 during the install process. Please see the output of the apt-get and apt commands below. $ apt-get update Hit:1 http://ftp.usf.edu/pub/ubuntu lunar InRelease Hit:2 http://ftp.usf.edu/pub/ubuntu lunar-updates InRelease Hit:3 http://ftp.usf.edu/pub/ubuntu lunar-backports InRelease Hit:4 https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu lunar InRelease Hit:5 http://ftp.usf.edu/pub/ubuntu lunar-security InRelease Hit:6 http://packages.microsoft.com/repos/code stable InRelease Hit:7 https://repo.steampowered.com/steam stable InRelease Hit:8 https://pkg.cloudflareclient.com jammy InRelease Hit:9 https://download.sublimetext.com apt/stable/ InRelease Get:10 https://pkgs.tailscale.com/stable/ubuntu jammy InRelease Ign:11 https://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb stable InRelease Hit:12 https://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb stable Release Hit:13 https://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian jammy InRelease Ign:16 https://download.webmin.com/download/repository sarge InRelease Hit:17 https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/cappelikan/ppa/ubuntu lunar InRelease Hit:18 https://download.webmin.com/download/repository sarge Release Hit:21 https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/teejee2008/foss/ubuntu lunar InRelease Hit:14 https://packagecloud.io/github/git-lfs/ubuntu lunar InRelease Hit:15 https://packagecloud.io/eugeny/tabby/ubuntu jammy InRelease Hit:22 https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/cubic-wizard/release/ubuntu lunar InRelease Hit:23 https://repo.waydro.id bullseye InRelease Hit:24 https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/deity/sid/ubuntu lunar InRelease Hit:25 https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/papirus/papirus/ubuntu lunar InRelease Fetched 6,557 B in 3s (2,503 B/s) Reading package lists... Done $ apt-get upgrade --assume-no Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Reading state information... Done Calculating upgrade... Done The following packages have been kept back: grub-efi-amd64-bin grub-efi-amd64-signed linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic The following packages will be upgraded: code freerdp2-x11 libfreerdp-client2-
[Touch-packages] [Bug 2038490] Re: Apt and apt-get reporting different lists of packages to be held back/upgraded
This is a feature; not a bug. apt-get is a legacy scripting interface which tries to remain compatible with existing scripts as much as possible, hence when we enabled installing new packages as a third mode for upgrading, we only enabled it by default for apt upgrade whereas apt-get upgrade would not install new packages to enable upgrades. You can get the same behavior for apt-get as for apt using: apt-get upgrade --with-new-pkgs And inversely you can make apt upgrade hold back upgrades that would install new packages by using: apt upgrade --without-new-pkgs ** Changed in: apt (Ubuntu) Status: New => Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to apt in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2038490 Title: Apt and apt-get reporting different lists of packages to be held back/upgraded Status in apt package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: When running apt-get from a script (or command line), I see a different list of packages to be held back / upgraded vs when I run apt. I am running Kubuntu 23.04. The version of apt and apt-get I first noticed the problem in is 2.6.0ubuntu0.1 I also see the problem on my servers running Ubuntu 22.04.3 with apt and apt-get version 2.4.10. I upgraded my copy on Kubuntu 23.04 to 2.7.6 through the launchpad.net ppa deity/sid (actually version 2.7.6+0~202309200852~ubuntu23.04.1) and the problem remains. I've spent a few hours looking for the correct place to search for this being already reported and have reviewed recent commits at https://salsa.debian.org/apt-team/apt. I'm hesitant but I do not see any other mention of this issue. I have tried deleting my /var/cache/apt and running apt update. To duplicate the issue one needs to have an Ubuntu version that has not yet received the update to linux-headers-6.2.0-34, et al. I attempted to duplicate the issue on a fresh install of Ubuntu Desktop 23.04, but discovered that the system is upgraded to linux 6.2.0-34 during the install process. Please see the output of the apt-get and apt commands below. $ apt-get update Hit:1 http://ftp.usf.edu/pub/ubuntu lunar InRelease Hit:2 http://ftp.usf.edu/pub/ubuntu lunar-updates InRelease Hit:3 http://ftp.usf.edu/pub/ubuntu lunar-backports InRelease Hit:4 https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu lunar InRelease Hit:5 http://ftp.usf.edu/pub/ubuntu lunar-security InRelease Hit:6 http://packages.microsoft.com/repos/code stable InRelease Hit:7 https://repo.steampowered.com/steam stable InRelease Hit:8 https://pkg.cloudflareclient.com jammy InRelease Hit:9 https://download.sublimetext.com apt/stable/ InRelease Get:10 https://pkgs.tailscale.com/stable/ubuntu jammy InRelease Ign:11 https://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb stable InRelease Hit:12 https://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb stable Release Hit:13 https://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian jammy InRelease Ign:16 https://download.webmin.com/download/repository sarge InRelease Hit:17 https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/cappelikan/ppa/ubuntu lunar InRelease Hit:18 https://download.webmin.com/download/repository sarge Release Hit:21 https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/teejee2008/foss/ubuntu lunar InRelease Hit:14 https://packagecloud.io/github/git-lfs/ubuntu lunar InRelease Hit:15 https://packagecloud.io/eugeny/tabby/ubuntu jammy InRelease Hit:22 https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/cubic-wizard/release/ubuntu lunar InRelease Hit:23 https://repo.waydro.id bullseye InRelease Hit:24 https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/deity/sid/ubuntu lunar InRelease Hit:25 https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/papirus/papirus/ubu