[Touch-packages] [Bug 2061214] Re: [SRU] Software Sources is not compatible with deb822
I have adjusted the test plan to say to diffoscope them, and run another diffoscope vs the software-properties-qt 0.99.48.1 and the packages are still the same, timestamps, versions and the obvious /usr/share/doc deduplication difference aside (as expected), so I am marking this as verified. ** Description changed: [ Impact ] Ubuntu 24.04 now uses deb822 to represent software sources for deb packages, instead of /etc/apt/sources.list. The complete rationale for this change can be found here: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/spec-apt- deb822-sources-by-default/29333 software-properties has two graphical frontends for editing these software sources, one is GTK-based and the other is Qt-based. When the underlying change to deb822 sources was made, the GTK-based frontend and the DBus backend interface gained support. The original bug report shown below informed us of the lack of deb822 support in the Qt frontend, which results in a broken, non-functional interface when attempting to view or edit most values on the first two tabs. The fix for this is to implement a Qt dialog for deb822 sources that somewhat matches the existing GTK interface. [ Test Plan ] + For software-properties 0.99.49(.1): The package is the same as shipped in software-properties-qt 0.99.48.1 in the release pocket, the procedure below does not work for validation anymore. Just ensure it is the same, obvious metadata aside. Install software-properties-qt 0.99.48 or earlier. Reproducing the bug: - 1. From the menu, open Software Sources. Alternatively, run `sudo -E software-properties-qt` in a terminal. - 2. Observe that all four checkboxes on the Ubuntu Software tab (main, universe, restricted, and multiverse) are unchecked. - 3. Move to the Other Software tab and observe that there are no items in the list. + 1. From the menu, open Software Sources. Alternatively, run `sudo -E software-properties-qt` in a terminal. + 2. Observe that all four checkboxes on the Ubuntu Software tab (main, universe, restricted, and multiverse) are unchecked. + 3. Move to the Other Software tab and observe that there are no items in the list. Upgrade to software-properties-qt 0.99.49. Intended functionality: - 1. From the menu, open Software Sources. Alternatively, run `sudo -E software-properties-qt` in a terminal. - 2. Observe that one or more checkboxes on the Ubuntu Software tab (representing main, universe, restricted, or multiverse) are checked. Toggle one or more of the checkboxes. - 3. Using a text editor of some kind (perhaps Vim), confirm that /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ubuntu.sources reflects your changes. - 4. Switch to the Other Software tab, there should be one item in the list. - 5. Select that item, then click Edit at the bottom of the dialog. Make a modification to every field on the screen, or a combination of fields you would like to test. All fields should work. - 6. Click the OK button at the bottom of the dialog to confirm the changes, then click Edit for that item again. The changes you made should be reflected (meaning, the changes were saved.) - 7. Using a text editor of some kind (perhaps Vim), confirm that /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ubuntu.sources reflects your changes. + 1. From the menu, open Software Sources. Alternatively, run `sudo -E software-properties-qt` in a terminal. + 2. Observe that one or more checkboxes on the Ubuntu Software tab (representing main, universe, restricted, or multiverse) are checked. Toggle one or more of the checkboxes. + 3. Using a text editor of some kind (perhaps Vim), confirm that /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ubuntu.sources reflects your changes. + 4. Switch to the Other Software tab, there should be one item in the list. + 5. Select that item, then click Edit at the bottom of the dialog. Make a modification to every field on the screen, or a combination of fields you would like to test. All fields should work. + 6. Click the OK button at the bottom of the dialog to confirm the changes, then click Edit for that item again. The changes you made should be reflected (meaning, the changes were saved.) + 7. Using a text editor of some kind (perhaps Vim), confirm that /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ubuntu.sources reflects your changes. [ Where problems could occur ] This is well-tested code. That being said, the following small edge cases exist: - - If you create a very large amount of rows, it infinitely expands the dialog without a scroll wheel. This is the same functionality as the GTK frontend. - - Error validation is not performed on the deb822 lines, they are simply written to the ubuntu.sources file. This is good as a starting point, but also relies on the appropriate update notifier handling these errors. This is the same functionality as the GTK frontend. + - If you create a very large amount of rows, it infinitely expands the dialog without a scroll wheel. This is the same functionality
[Touch-packages] [Bug 2061214] Re: [SRU] Software Sources is not compatible with deb822
Actually, no need to actually release, since it's identical to the special binary package, right? So I can just accept the next SRU for this package into noble-proposed and treat this bug as completed. When that SRU lands, this no-binary-change one will, too. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to software-properties in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2061214 Title: [SRU] Software Sources is not compatible with deb822 Status in software-properties package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in software-properties-qt package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in software-properties source package in Noble: Fix Committed Status in software-properties-qt source package in Noble: Fix Released Bug description: [ Impact ] Ubuntu 24.04 now uses deb822 to represent software sources for deb packages, instead of /etc/apt/sources.list. The complete rationale for this change can be found here: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/spec- apt-deb822-sources-by-default/29333 software-properties has two graphical frontends for editing these software sources, one is GTK-based and the other is Qt-based. When the underlying change to deb822 sources was made, the GTK-based frontend and the DBus backend interface gained support. The original bug report shown below informed us of the lack of deb822 support in the Qt frontend, which results in a broken, non-functional interface when attempting to view or edit most values on the first two tabs. The fix for this is to implement a Qt dialog for deb822 sources that somewhat matches the existing GTK interface. [ Test Plan ] Install software-properties-qt 0.99.48 or earlier. Reproducing the bug: 1. From the menu, open Software Sources. Alternatively, run `sudo -E software-properties-qt` in a terminal. 2. Observe that all four checkboxes on the Ubuntu Software tab (main, universe, restricted, and multiverse) are unchecked. 3. Move to the Other Software tab and observe that there are no items in the list. Upgrade to software-properties-qt 0.99.49. Intended functionality: 1. From the menu, open Software Sources. Alternatively, run `sudo -E software-properties-qt` in a terminal. 2. Observe that one or more checkboxes on the Ubuntu Software tab (representing main, universe, restricted, or multiverse) are checked. Toggle one or more of the checkboxes. 3. Using a text editor of some kind (perhaps Vim), confirm that /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ubuntu.sources reflects your changes. 4. Switch to the Other Software tab, there should be one item in the list. 5. Select that item, then click Edit at the bottom of the dialog. Make a modification to every field on the screen, or a combination of fields you would like to test. All fields should work. 6. Click the OK button at the bottom of the dialog to confirm the changes, then click Edit for that item again. The changes you made should be reflected (meaning, the changes were saved.) 7. Using a text editor of some kind (perhaps Vim), confirm that /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ubuntu.sources reflects your changes. [ Where problems could occur ] This is well-tested code. That being said, the following small edge cases exist: - If you create a very large amount of rows, it infinitely expands the dialog without a scroll wheel. This is the same functionality as the GTK frontend. - Error validation is not performed on the deb822 lines, they are simply written to the ubuntu.sources file. This is good as a starting point, but also relies on the appropriate update notifier handling these errors. This is the same functionality as the GTK frontend. In a future update, this functionality could be broken by one or more of the following underlying changes: - Changes to the software-properties backend which are only implemented for the GTK frontend. - Changes to the location or formatting of the ubuntu.sources file. - Regressions in the Python bindings for Qt 5, which are rare but possible. - Regressions in Python itself. [ Other Info ] Ubuntu Studio's live ISO and installed system are affected by this. Only Lubuntu's installed system is affected by this. [ Original Report ] Upgrading Lubuntu Jammy to Lubuntu Noble using TUI results in "Software sources" not correctly updated after upgrade. Prompt= shows normal and not LTS Used command sudo do-release-upgrade -d Otherwise the upgrade is good see attached screenshot ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 24.04 Package: software-properties-common 0.99.46 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 6.8.0-22.22-generic 6.8.1 Uname: Linux 6.8.0-22-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.28.0-0ubuntu1 Architecture: amd64 CasperMD5CheckResult: unknown CurrentDesktop: LXQt Date: Sat Apr 13 11:44:28 2024 InstallationDate: Installed on 2024-04-13 (0 days ago) InstallationMedia: Lubuntu 22.04.4 LTS
[Touch-packages] [Bug 2061214] Re: [SRU] Software Sources is not compatible with deb822
OK I'm releasing this on the basis of Julian's justification above. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to software-properties in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2061214 Title: [SRU] Software Sources is not compatible with deb822 Status in software-properties package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in software-properties-qt package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in software-properties source package in Noble: Fix Committed Status in software-properties-qt source package in Noble: Fix Released Bug description: [ Impact ] Ubuntu 24.04 now uses deb822 to represent software sources for deb packages, instead of /etc/apt/sources.list. The complete rationale for this change can be found here: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/spec- apt-deb822-sources-by-default/29333 software-properties has two graphical frontends for editing these software sources, one is GTK-based and the other is Qt-based. When the underlying change to deb822 sources was made, the GTK-based frontend and the DBus backend interface gained support. The original bug report shown below informed us of the lack of deb822 support in the Qt frontend, which results in a broken, non-functional interface when attempting to view or edit most values on the first two tabs. The fix for this is to implement a Qt dialog for deb822 sources that somewhat matches the existing GTK interface. [ Test Plan ] Install software-properties-qt 0.99.48 or earlier. Reproducing the bug: 1. From the menu, open Software Sources. Alternatively, run `sudo -E software-properties-qt` in a terminal. 2. Observe that all four checkboxes on the Ubuntu Software tab (main, universe, restricted, and multiverse) are unchecked. 3. Move to the Other Software tab and observe that there are no items in the list. Upgrade to software-properties-qt 0.99.49. Intended functionality: 1. From the menu, open Software Sources. Alternatively, run `sudo -E software-properties-qt` in a terminal. 2. Observe that one or more checkboxes on the Ubuntu Software tab (representing main, universe, restricted, or multiverse) are checked. Toggle one or more of the checkboxes. 3. Using a text editor of some kind (perhaps Vim), confirm that /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ubuntu.sources reflects your changes. 4. Switch to the Other Software tab, there should be one item in the list. 5. Select that item, then click Edit at the bottom of the dialog. Make a modification to every field on the screen, or a combination of fields you would like to test. All fields should work. 6. Click the OK button at the bottom of the dialog to confirm the changes, then click Edit for that item again. The changes you made should be reflected (meaning, the changes were saved.) 7. Using a text editor of some kind (perhaps Vim), confirm that /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ubuntu.sources reflects your changes. [ Where problems could occur ] This is well-tested code. That being said, the following small edge cases exist: - If you create a very large amount of rows, it infinitely expands the dialog without a scroll wheel. This is the same functionality as the GTK frontend. - Error validation is not performed on the deb822 lines, they are simply written to the ubuntu.sources file. This is good as a starting point, but also relies on the appropriate update notifier handling these errors. This is the same functionality as the GTK frontend. In a future update, this functionality could be broken by one or more of the following underlying changes: - Changes to the software-properties backend which are only implemented for the GTK frontend. - Changes to the location or formatting of the ubuntu.sources file. - Regressions in the Python bindings for Qt 5, which are rare but possible. - Regressions in Python itself. [ Other Info ] Ubuntu Studio's live ISO and installed system are affected by this. Only Lubuntu's installed system is affected by this. [ Original Report ] Upgrading Lubuntu Jammy to Lubuntu Noble using TUI results in "Software sources" not correctly updated after upgrade. Prompt= shows normal and not LTS Used command sudo do-release-upgrade -d Otherwise the upgrade is good see attached screenshot ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 24.04 Package: software-properties-common 0.99.46 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 6.8.0-22.22-generic 6.8.1 Uname: Linux 6.8.0-22-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.28.0-0ubuntu1 Architecture: amd64 CasperMD5CheckResult: unknown CurrentDesktop: LXQt Date: Sat Apr 13 11:44:28 2024 InstallationDate: Installed on 2024-04-13 (0 days ago) InstallationMedia: Lubuntu 22.04.4 LTS "Jammy Jellyfish" - Release amd64 (20240331) PackageArchitecture: all SourcePackage: software-properties UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to noble on 2024-04-13 (0 days ago) mtime.conffile..et
[Touch-packages] [Bug 2061214] Re: [SRU] Software Sources is not compatible with deb822
Hello Leó, or anyone else affected, Accepted software-properties into noble-proposed. The package will build now and be available at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software- properties/0.99.49 in a few hours, and then in the -proposed repository. Please help us by testing this new package. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed for documentation on how to enable and use -proposed. Your feedback will aid us getting this update out to other Ubuntu users. If this package fixes the bug for you, please add a comment to this bug, mentioning the version of the package you tested, what testing has been performed on the package and change the tag from verification-needed- noble to verification-done-noble. If it does not fix the bug for you, please add a comment stating that, and change the tag to verification- failed-noble. In either case, without details of your testing we will not be able to proceed. Further information regarding the verification process can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/PerformingSRUVerification . Thank you in advance for helping! N.B. The updated package will be released to -updates after the bug(s) fixed by this package have been verified and the package has been in -proposed for a minimum of 7 days. ** Changed in: software-properties (Ubuntu Noble) Status: Confirmed => Fix Committed ** Tags added: verification-needed verification-needed-noble -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to software-properties in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2061214 Title: [SRU] Software Sources is not compatible with deb822 Status in software-properties package in Ubuntu: Fix Committed Status in software-properties-qt package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in software-properties source package in Noble: Fix Committed Status in software-properties-qt source package in Noble: Fix Released Bug description: [ Impact ] Ubuntu 24.04 now uses deb822 to represent software sources for deb packages, instead of /etc/apt/sources.list. The complete rationale for this change can be found here: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/spec- apt-deb822-sources-by-default/29333 software-properties has two graphical frontends for editing these software sources, one is GTK-based and the other is Qt-based. When the underlying change to deb822 sources was made, the GTK-based frontend and the DBus backend interface gained support. The original bug report shown below informed us of the lack of deb822 support in the Qt frontend, which results in a broken, non-functional interface when attempting to view or edit most values on the first two tabs. The fix for this is to implement a Qt dialog for deb822 sources that somewhat matches the existing GTK interface. [ Test Plan ] Install software-properties-qt 0.99.48 or earlier. Reproducing the bug: 1. From the menu, open Software Sources. Alternatively, run `sudo -E software-properties-qt` in a terminal. 2. Observe that all four checkboxes on the Ubuntu Software tab (main, universe, restricted, and multiverse) are unchecked. 3. Move to the Other Software tab and observe that there are no items in the list. Upgrade to software-properties-qt 0.99.49. Intended functionality: 1. From the menu, open Software Sources. Alternatively, run `sudo -E software-properties-qt` in a terminal. 2. Observe that one or more checkboxes on the Ubuntu Software tab (representing main, universe, restricted, or multiverse) are checked. Toggle one or more of the checkboxes. 3. Using a text editor of some kind (perhaps Vim), confirm that /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ubuntu.sources reflects your changes. 4. Switch to the Other Software tab, there should be one item in the list. 5. Select that item, then click Edit at the bottom of the dialog. Make a modification to every field on the screen, or a combination of fields you would like to test. All fields should work. 6. Click the OK button at the bottom of the dialog to confirm the changes, then click Edit for that item again. The changes you made should be reflected (meaning, the changes were saved.) 7. Using a text editor of some kind (perhaps Vim), confirm that /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ubuntu.sources reflects your changes. [ Where problems could occur ] This is well-tested code. That being said, the following small edge cases exist: - If you create a very large amount of rows, it infinitely expands the dialog without a scroll wheel. This is the same functionality as the GTK frontend. - Error validation is not performed on the deb822 lines, they are simply written to the ubuntu.sources file. This is good as a starting point, but also relies on the appropriate update notifier handling these errors. This is the same functionality as the GTK frontend. In a future update, this functionality could be broken by one or more of the followin
[Touch-packages] [Bug 2061214] Re: [SRU] Software Sources is not compatible with deb822
@theofficialgman this is specifically about the qt interface, so i've you've found a bug against the gtk one, it is something different. please file a separate bug. thanks! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to software-properties in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2061214 Title: [SRU] Software Sources is not compatible with deb822 Status in software-properties package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in software-properties-qt package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in software-properties source package in Noble: Confirmed Status in software-properties-qt source package in Noble: Fix Released Bug description: [ Impact ] Ubuntu 24.04 now uses deb822 to represent software sources for deb packages, instead of /etc/apt/sources.list. The complete rationale for this change can be found here: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/spec- apt-deb822-sources-by-default/29333 software-properties has two graphical frontends for editing these software sources, one is GTK-based and the other is Qt-based. When the underlying change to deb822 sources was made, the GTK-based frontend and the DBus backend interface gained support. The original bug report shown below informed us of the lack of deb822 support in the Qt frontend, which results in a broken, non-functional interface when attempting to view or edit most values on the first two tabs. The fix for this is to implement a Qt dialog for deb822 sources that somewhat matches the existing GTK interface. [ Test Plan ] Install software-properties-qt 0.99.48 or earlier. Reproducing the bug: 1. From the menu, open Software Sources. Alternatively, run `sudo -E software-properties-qt` in a terminal. 2. Observe that all four checkboxes on the Ubuntu Software tab (main, universe, restricted, and multiverse) are unchecked. 3. Move to the Other Software tab and observe that there are no items in the list. Upgrade to software-properties-qt 0.99.49. Intended functionality: 1. From the menu, open Software Sources. Alternatively, run `sudo -E software-properties-qt` in a terminal. 2. Observe that one or more checkboxes on the Ubuntu Software tab (representing main, universe, restricted, or multiverse) are checked. Toggle one or more of the checkboxes. 3. Using a text editor of some kind (perhaps Vim), confirm that /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ubuntu.sources reflects your changes. 4. Switch to the Other Software tab, there should be one item in the list. 5. Select that item, then click Edit at the bottom of the dialog. Make a modification to every field on the screen, or a combination of fields you would like to test. All fields should work. 6. Click the OK button at the bottom of the dialog to confirm the changes, then click Edit for that item again. The changes you made should be reflected (meaning, the changes were saved.) 7. Using a text editor of some kind (perhaps Vim), confirm that /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ubuntu.sources reflects your changes. [ Where problems could occur ] This is well-tested code. That being said, the following small edge cases exist: - If you create a very large amount of rows, it infinitely expands the dialog without a scroll wheel. This is the same functionality as the GTK frontend. - Error validation is not performed on the deb822 lines, they are simply written to the ubuntu.sources file. This is good as a starting point, but also relies on the appropriate update notifier handling these errors. This is the same functionality as the GTK frontend. In a future update, this functionality could be broken by one or more of the following underlying changes: - Changes to the software-properties backend which are only implemented for the GTK frontend. - Changes to the location or formatting of the ubuntu.sources file. - Regressions in the Python bindings for Qt 5, which are rare but possible. - Regressions in Python itself. [ Other Info ] Ubuntu Studio's live ISO and installed system are affected by this. Only Lubuntu's installed system is affected by this. [ Original Report ] Upgrading Lubuntu Jammy to Lubuntu Noble using TUI results in "Software sources" not correctly updated after upgrade. Prompt= shows normal and not LTS Used command sudo do-release-upgrade -d Otherwise the upgrade is good see attached screenshot ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 24.04 Package: software-properties-common 0.99.46 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 6.8.0-22.22-generic 6.8.1 Uname: Linux 6.8.0-22-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.28.0-0ubuntu1 Architecture: amd64 CasperMD5CheckResult: unknown CurrentDesktop: LXQt Date: Sat Apr 13 11:44:28 2024 InstallationDate: Installed on 2024-04-13 (0 days ago) InstallationMedia: Lubuntu 22.04.4 LTS "Jammy Jellyfish" - Release amd64 (20240331) PackageArchitecture: all SourcePackage: soft
[Touch-packages] [Bug 2061214] Re: [SRU] Software Sources is not compatible with deb822
I do not think the GTK version is fixed. I am seeing the issue as seen in the screenshot. Tell me to open a new bug if needed. `sources.list` ``` # Ubuntu sources have moved to the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ubuntu.sources # file, which uses the deb822 format. Use deb822-formatted .sources files # to manage package sources in the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ directory. # See the sources.list(5) manual page for details. ``` `ubuntu.sources` ``` ``` # See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to # newer versions of the distribution. ## Ubuntu distribution repository ## ## The following settings can be adjusted to configure which packages to use from Ubuntu. ## Mirror your choices (except for URIs and Suites) in the security section below to ## ensure timely security updates. ## ## Types: Append deb-src to enable the fetching of source package. ## URIs: A URL to the repository (you may add multiple URLs) ## Suites: The following additional suites can be configured ## -updates - Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the ## distribution. ## -backports - software from this repository may not have been tested as ## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes ## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features. ## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review ## or updates from the Ubuntu security team. ## Components: Aside from main, the following components can be added to the list ## restricted - Software that may not be under a free license, or protected by patents. ## universe- Community maintained packages. ## Software from this repository is only maintained and supported by Canonical ## for machines with Ubuntu Pro subscriptions. Without Ubuntu Pro, the Ubuntu ## community provides best-effort security maintenance. ## multiverse - Community maintained of restricted. Software from this repository is ## ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu team, and may not be under a free ## licence. Please satisfy yourself as to your rights to use the software. ## Also, please note that software in multiverse WILL NOT receive any ## review or updates from the Ubuntu security team. ## ## See the sources.list(5) manual page for further settings. Types: deb URIs: http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/ Suites: noble noble-updates noble-backports Components: main universe restricted multiverse Signed-By: /usr/share/keyrings/ubuntu-archive-keyring.gpg ## Ubuntu security updates. Aside from URIs and Suites, ## this should mirror your choices in the previous section. Types: deb URIs: http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/ Suites: noble-security Components: main universe restricted multiverse Signed-By: /usr/share/keyrings/ubuntu-archive-keyring.gpg ``` ** Attachment added: "Screenshot from 2024-04-24 23-18-46.png" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/2061214/+attachment/5770144/+files/Screenshot%20from%202024-04-24%2023-18-46.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to software-properties in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2061214 Title: [SRU] Software Sources is not compatible with deb822 Status in software-properties package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in software-properties-qt package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in software-properties source package in Noble: Confirmed Status in software-properties-qt source package in Noble: Fix Released Bug description: [ Impact ] Ubuntu 24.04 now uses deb822 to represent software sources for deb packages, instead of /etc/apt/sources.list. The complete rationale for this change can be found here: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/spec- apt-deb822-sources-by-default/29333 software-properties has two graphical frontends for editing these software sources, one is GTK-based and the other is Qt-based. When the underlying change to deb822 sources was made, the GTK-based frontend and the DBus backend interface gained support. The original bug report shown below informed us of the lack of deb822 support in the Qt frontend, which results in a broken, non-functional interface when attempting to view or edit most values on the first two tabs. The fix for this is to implement a Qt dialog for deb822 sources that somewhat matches the existing GTK interface. [ Test Plan ] Install software-properties-qt 0.99.48 or earlier. Reproducing the bug: 1. From the menu, open Software Sources. Alternatively, run `sudo -E software-properties-qt` in a terminal. 2. Observe that all four checkboxes on the Ubuntu Software tab (main, universe, restricted, and multiverse) are uncheck
[Touch-packages] [Bug 2061214] Re: [SRU] Software Sources is not compatible with deb822
Yeah sorry folks this was a bit awkward, to avoid respinning other images we temporarily spun out software-properties-qt into its own package (0.99.48.1) and fixed it there, and hence there was no bug closure or anything. This will fold back into the main package in a zero-day SRU in 0.99.49. ** Also affects: software-properties-qt (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: software-properties-qt (Ubuntu Noble) Status: New => Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to software-properties in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2061214 Title: [SRU] Software Sources is not compatible with deb822 Status in software-properties package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in software-properties-qt package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in software-properties source package in Noble: Confirmed Status in software-properties-qt source package in Noble: Fix Released Bug description: [ Impact ] Ubuntu 24.04 now uses deb822 to represent software sources for deb packages, instead of /etc/apt/sources.list. The complete rationale for this change can be found here: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/spec- apt-deb822-sources-by-default/29333 software-properties has two graphical frontends for editing these software sources, one is GTK-based and the other is Qt-based. When the underlying change to deb822 sources was made, the GTK-based frontend and the DBus backend interface gained support. The original bug report shown below informed us of the lack of deb822 support in the Qt frontend, which results in a broken, non-functional interface when attempting to view or edit most values on the first two tabs. The fix for this is to implement a Qt dialog for deb822 sources that somewhat matches the existing GTK interface. [ Test Plan ] Install software-properties-qt 0.99.48 or earlier. Reproducing the bug: 1. From the menu, open Software Sources. Alternatively, run `sudo -E software-properties-qt` in a terminal. 2. Observe that all four checkboxes on the Ubuntu Software tab (main, universe, restricted, and multiverse) are unchecked. 3. Move to the Other Software tab and observe that there are no items in the list. Upgrade to software-properties-qt 0.99.49. Intended functionality: 1. From the menu, open Software Sources. Alternatively, run `sudo -E software-properties-qt` in a terminal. 2. Observe that one or more checkboxes on the Ubuntu Software tab (representing main, universe, restricted, or multiverse) are checked. Toggle one or more of the checkboxes. 3. Using a text editor of some kind (perhaps Vim), confirm that /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ubuntu.sources reflects your changes. 4. Switch to the Other Software tab, there should be one item in the list. 5. Select that item, then click Edit at the bottom of the dialog. Make a modification to every field on the screen, or a combination of fields you would like to test. All fields should work. 6. Click the OK button at the bottom of the dialog to confirm the changes, then click Edit for that item again. The changes you made should be reflected (meaning, the changes were saved.) 7. Using a text editor of some kind (perhaps Vim), confirm that /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ubuntu.sources reflects your changes. [ Where problems could occur ] This is well-tested code. That being said, the following small edge cases exist: - If you create a very large amount of rows, it infinitely expands the dialog without a scroll wheel. This is the same functionality as the GTK frontend. - Error validation is not performed on the deb822 lines, they are simply written to the ubuntu.sources file. This is good as a starting point, but also relies on the appropriate update notifier handling these errors. This is the same functionality as the GTK frontend. In a future update, this functionality could be broken by one or more of the following underlying changes: - Changes to the software-properties backend which are only implemented for the GTK frontend. - Changes to the location or formatting of the ubuntu.sources file. - Regressions in the Python bindings for Qt 5, which are rare but possible. - Regressions in Python itself. [ Other Info ] Ubuntu Studio's live ISO and installed system are affected by this. Only Lubuntu's installed system is affected by this. [ Original Report ] Upgrading Lubuntu Jammy to Lubuntu Noble using TUI results in "Software sources" not correctly updated after upgrade. Prompt= shows normal and not LTS Used command sudo do-release-upgrade -d Otherwise the upgrade is good see attached screenshot ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 24.04 Package: software-properties-common 0.99.46 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 6.8.0-22.22-generic 6.8.1 Uname: Linux 6.8.0-22-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.28.0-0ubuntu
[Touch-packages] [Bug 2061214] Re: [SRU] Software Sources is not compatible with deb822
Booted an install made earlier today on hp_compaq_dc7700 of lubuntu noble (20240424) ; https://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/453/builds/300235/testcases/1701/results/ sudo apt update; sudo apt full-upgrade & no updates are available. (software-properties-qt 0.99.48.1) Following the "Intended Functionality" listed in the Bug.Description at the top of this bug report and behavior is what I'd expect. The `/etc/apt/sources.list` file contained comments only ; with all subsequent changes being reflected in `/etc/apt/sources.list.d/ubuntu.sources` and looked appropriate to me. However I'm tired, and fear I've missed something (that I can't 'put my finger on'), but I've repeated steps 1..7 twice & didn't locate what 'irks' me sorry. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to software-properties in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2061214 Title: [SRU] Software Sources is not compatible with deb822 Status in software-properties package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in software-properties source package in Noble: Confirmed Bug description: [ Impact ] Ubuntu 24.04 now uses deb822 to represent software sources for deb packages, instead of /etc/apt/sources.list. The complete rationale for this change can be found here: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/spec- apt-deb822-sources-by-default/29333 software-properties has two graphical frontends for editing these software sources, one is GTK-based and the other is Qt-based. When the underlying change to deb822 sources was made, the GTK-based frontend and the DBus backend interface gained support. The original bug report shown below informed us of the lack of deb822 support in the Qt frontend, which results in a broken, non-functional interface when attempting to view or edit most values on the first two tabs. The fix for this is to implement a Qt dialog for deb822 sources that somewhat matches the existing GTK interface. [ Test Plan ] Install software-properties-qt 0.99.48 or earlier. Reproducing the bug: 1. From the menu, open Software Sources. Alternatively, run `sudo -E software-properties-qt` in a terminal. 2. Observe that all four checkboxes on the Ubuntu Software tab (main, universe, restricted, and multiverse) are unchecked. 3. Move to the Other Software tab and observe that there are no items in the list. Upgrade to software-properties-qt 0.99.49. Intended functionality: 1. From the menu, open Software Sources. Alternatively, run `sudo -E software-properties-qt` in a terminal. 2. Observe that one or more checkboxes on the Ubuntu Software tab (representing main, universe, restricted, or multiverse) are checked. Toggle one or more of the checkboxes. 3. Using a text editor of some kind (perhaps Vim), confirm that /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ubuntu.sources reflects your changes. 4. Switch to the Other Software tab, there should be one item in the list. 5. Select that item, then click Edit at the bottom of the dialog. Make a modification to every field on the screen, or a combination of fields you would like to test. All fields should work. 6. Click the OK button at the bottom of the dialog to confirm the changes, then click Edit for that item again. The changes you made should be reflected (meaning, the changes were saved.) 7. Using a text editor of some kind (perhaps Vim), confirm that /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ubuntu.sources reflects your changes. [ Where problems could occur ] This is well-tested code. That being said, the following small edge cases exist: - If you create a very large amount of rows, it infinitely expands the dialog without a scroll wheel. This is the same functionality as the GTK frontend. - Error validation is not performed on the deb822 lines, they are simply written to the ubuntu.sources file. This is good as a starting point, but also relies on the appropriate update notifier handling these errors. This is the same functionality as the GTK frontend. In a future update, this functionality could be broken by one or more of the following underlying changes: - Changes to the software-properties backend which are only implemented for the GTK frontend. - Changes to the location or formatting of the ubuntu.sources file. - Regressions in the Python bindings for Qt 5, which are rare but possible. - Regressions in Python itself. [ Other Info ] Ubuntu Studio's live ISO and installed system are affected by this. Only Lubuntu's installed system is affected by this. [ Original Report ] Upgrading Lubuntu Jammy to Lubuntu Noble using TUI results in "Software sources" not correctly updated after upgrade. Prompt= shows normal and not LTS Used command sudo do-release-upgrade -d Otherwise the upgrade is good see attached screenshot ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 24.04 Package: software-properties-common 0.9
[Touch-packages] [Bug 2061214] Re: [SRU] Software Sources is not compatible with deb822
Tested Lubuntu Noble ISO dated 24-04-2024 and the bug no longer present. Also tested upgrades from Lubuntu Jammy and Lubuntu Mantic to Lubuntu Noble using GUI and also TUI and bug not present. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to software-properties in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2061214 Title: [SRU] Software Sources is not compatible with deb822 Status in software-properties package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in software-properties source package in Noble: Confirmed Bug description: [ Impact ] Ubuntu 24.04 now uses deb822 to represent software sources for deb packages, instead of /etc/apt/sources.list. The complete rationale for this change can be found here: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/spec- apt-deb822-sources-by-default/29333 software-properties has two graphical frontends for editing these software sources, one is GTK-based and the other is Qt-based. When the underlying change to deb822 sources was made, the GTK-based frontend and the DBus backend interface gained support. The original bug report shown below informed us of the lack of deb822 support in the Qt frontend, which results in a broken, non-functional interface when attempting to view or edit most values on the first two tabs. The fix for this is to implement a Qt dialog for deb822 sources that somewhat matches the existing GTK interface. [ Test Plan ] Install software-properties-qt 0.99.48 or earlier. Reproducing the bug: 1. From the menu, open Software Sources. Alternatively, run `sudo -E software-properties-qt` in a terminal. 2. Observe that all four checkboxes on the Ubuntu Software tab (main, universe, restricted, and multiverse) are unchecked. 3. Move to the Other Software tab and observe that there are no items in the list. Upgrade to software-properties-qt 0.99.49. Intended functionality: 1. From the menu, open Software Sources. Alternatively, run `sudo -E software-properties-qt` in a terminal. 2. Observe that one or more checkboxes on the Ubuntu Software tab (representing main, universe, restricted, or multiverse) are checked. Toggle one or more of the checkboxes. 3. Using a text editor of some kind (perhaps Vim), confirm that /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ubuntu.sources reflects your changes. 4. Switch to the Other Software tab, there should be one item in the list. 5. Select that item, then click Edit at the bottom of the dialog. Make a modification to every field on the screen, or a combination of fields you would like to test. All fields should work. 6. Click the OK button at the bottom of the dialog to confirm the changes, then click Edit for that item again. The changes you made should be reflected (meaning, the changes were saved.) 7. Using a text editor of some kind (perhaps Vim), confirm that /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ubuntu.sources reflects your changes. [ Where problems could occur ] This is well-tested code. That being said, the following small edge cases exist: - If you create a very large amount of rows, it infinitely expands the dialog without a scroll wheel. This is the same functionality as the GTK frontend. - Error validation is not performed on the deb822 lines, they are simply written to the ubuntu.sources file. This is good as a starting point, but also relies on the appropriate update notifier handling these errors. This is the same functionality as the GTK frontend. In a future update, this functionality could be broken by one or more of the following underlying changes: - Changes to the software-properties backend which are only implemented for the GTK frontend. - Changes to the location or formatting of the ubuntu.sources file. - Regressions in the Python bindings for Qt 5, which are rare but possible. - Regressions in Python itself. [ Other Info ] Ubuntu Studio's live ISO and installed system are affected by this. Only Lubuntu's installed system is affected by this. [ Original Report ] Upgrading Lubuntu Jammy to Lubuntu Noble using TUI results in "Software sources" not correctly updated after upgrade. Prompt= shows normal and not LTS Used command sudo do-release-upgrade -d Otherwise the upgrade is good see attached screenshot ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 24.04 Package: software-properties-common 0.99.46 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 6.8.0-22.22-generic 6.8.1 Uname: Linux 6.8.0-22-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.28.0-0ubuntu1 Architecture: amd64 CasperMD5CheckResult: unknown CurrentDesktop: LXQt Date: Sat Apr 13 11:44:28 2024 InstallationDate: Installed on 2024-04-13 (0 days ago) InstallationMedia: Lubuntu 22.04.4 LTS "Jammy Jellyfish" - Release amd64 (20240331) PackageArchitecture: all SourcePackage: software-properties UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to noble on 2024-04-13 (0 days ago) mtime.conffile..etc.init.d.apport: 2024
[Touch-packages] [Bug 2061214] Re: [SRU] Software Sources is not compatible with deb822
** Changed in: software-properties (Ubuntu Noble) Milestone: None => noble-updates -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to software-properties in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2061214 Title: [SRU] Software Sources is not compatible with deb822 Status in software-properties package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in software-properties source package in Noble: Confirmed Bug description: [ Impact ] Ubuntu 24.04 now uses deb822 to represent software sources for deb packages, instead of /etc/apt/sources.list. The complete rationale for this change can be found here: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/spec- apt-deb822-sources-by-default/29333 software-properties has two graphical frontends for editing these software sources, one is GTK-based and the other is Qt-based. When the underlying change to deb822 sources was made, the GTK-based frontend and the DBus backend interface gained support. The original bug report shown below informed us of the lack of deb822 support in the Qt frontend, which results in a broken, non-functional interface when attempting to view or edit most values on the first two tabs. The fix for this is to implement a Qt dialog for deb822 sources that somewhat matches the existing GTK interface. [ Test Plan ] Install software-properties-qt 0.99.48 or earlier. Reproducing the bug: 1. From the menu, open Software Sources. Alternatively, run `sudo -E software-properties-qt` in a terminal. 2. Observe that all four checkboxes on the Ubuntu Software tab (main, universe, restricted, and multiverse) are unchecked. 3. Move to the Other Software tab and observe that there are no items in the list. Upgrade to software-properties-qt 0.99.49. Intended functionality: 1. From the menu, open Software Sources. Alternatively, run `sudo -E software-properties-qt` in a terminal. 2. Observe that one or more checkboxes on the Ubuntu Software tab (representing main, universe, restricted, or multiverse) are checked. Toggle one or more of the checkboxes. 3. Using a text editor of some kind (perhaps Vim), confirm that /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ubuntu.sources reflects your changes. 4. Switch to the Other Software tab, there should be one item in the list. 5. Select that item, then click Edit at the bottom of the dialog. Make a modification to every field on the screen, or a combination of fields you would like to test. All fields should work. 6. Click the OK button at the bottom of the dialog to confirm the changes, then click Edit for that item again. The changes you made should be reflected (meaning, the changes were saved.) 7. Using a text editor of some kind (perhaps Vim), confirm that /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ubuntu.sources reflects your changes. [ Where problems could occur ] This is well-tested code. That being said, the following small edge cases exist: - If you create a very large amount of rows, it infinitely expands the dialog without a scroll wheel. This is the same functionality as the GTK frontend. - Error validation is not performed on the deb822 lines, they are simply written to the ubuntu.sources file. This is good as a starting point, but also relies on the appropriate update notifier handling these errors. This is the same functionality as the GTK frontend. In a future update, this functionality could be broken by one or more of the following underlying changes: - Changes to the software-properties backend which are only implemented for the GTK frontend. - Changes to the location or formatting of the ubuntu.sources file. - Regressions in the Python bindings for Qt 5, which are rare but possible. - Regressions in Python itself. [ Other Info ] Ubuntu Studio's live ISO and installed system are affected by this. Only Lubuntu's installed system is affected by this. [ Original Report ] Upgrading Lubuntu Jammy to Lubuntu Noble using TUI results in "Software sources" not correctly updated after upgrade. Prompt= shows normal and not LTS Used command sudo do-release-upgrade -d Otherwise the upgrade is good see attached screenshot ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 24.04 Package: software-properties-common 0.99.46 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 6.8.0-22.22-generic 6.8.1 Uname: Linux 6.8.0-22-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.28.0-0ubuntu1 Architecture: amd64 CasperMD5CheckResult: unknown CurrentDesktop: LXQt Date: Sat Apr 13 11:44:28 2024 InstallationDate: Installed on 2024-04-13 (0 days ago) InstallationMedia: Lubuntu 22.04.4 LTS "Jammy Jellyfish" - Release amd64 (20240331) PackageArchitecture: all SourcePackage: software-properties UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to noble on 2024-04-13 (0 days ago) mtime.conffile..etc.init.d.apport: 2024-02-22T14:20:00 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/so
[Touch-packages] [Bug 2061214] Re: [SRU] Software Sources is not compatible with deb822
** Description changed: + [ Impact ] + + Ubuntu 24.04 now uses deb822 to represent software sources for deb + packages, instead of /etc/apt/sources.list. The complete rationale for + this change can be found here: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/spec-apt- + deb822-sources-by-default/29333 + + software-properties has two graphical frontends for editing these + software sources, one is GTK-based and the other is Qt-based. When the + underlying change to deb822 sources was made, the GTK-based frontend and + the DBus backend interface gained support. + + The original bug report shown below informed us of the lack of deb822 + support in the Qt frontend, which results in a broken, non-functional + interface when attempting to view or edit most values on the first two + tabs. The fix for this is to implement a Qt dialog for deb822 sources + that somewhat matches the existing GTK interface. + + [ Test Plan ] + + Install software-properties-qt 0.99.48 or earlier. + + Reproducing the bug: + 1. From the menu, open Software Sources. Alternatively, run `sudo -E software-properties-qt` in a terminal. + 2. Observe that all four checkboxes on the Ubuntu Software tab (main, universe, restricted, and multiverse) are unchecked. + 3. Move to the Other Software tab and observe that there are no items in the list. + + Upgrade to software-properties-qt 0.99.49. + + Intended functionality: + 1. From the menu, open Software Sources. Alternatively, run `sudo -E software-properties-qt` in a terminal. + 2. Observe that one or more checkboxes on the Ubuntu Software tab (representing main, universe, restricted, or multiverse) are checked. Toggle one or more of the checkboxes. + 3. Using a text editor of some kind (perhaps Vim), confirm that /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ubuntu.sources reflects your changes. + 4. Switch to the Other Software tab, there should be one item in the list. + 5. Select that item, then click Edit at the bottom of the dialog. Make a modification to every field on the screen, or a combination of fields you would like to test. All fields should work. + 6. Click the OK button at the bottom of the dialog to confirm the changes, then click Edit for that item again. The changes you made should be reflected (meaning, the changes were saved.) + 7. Using a text editor of some kind (perhaps Vim), confirm that /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ubuntu.sources reflects your changes. + + [ Where problems could occur ] + + This is well-tested code. That being said, the following small edge cases exist: + - If you create a very large amount of rows, it infinitely expands the dialog without a scroll wheel. This is the same functionality as the GTK frontend. + - Error validation is not performed on the deb822 lines, they are simply written to the ubuntu.sources file. This is good as a starting point, but also relies on the appropriate update notifier handling these errors. This is the same functionality as the GTK frontend. + + In a future update, this functionality could be broken by one or more of the following underlying changes: + - Changes to the software-properties backend which are only implemented for the GTK frontend. + - Changes to the location or formatting of the ubuntu.sources file. + - Regressions in the Python bindings for Qt 5, which are rare but possible. + - Regressions in Python itself. + + [ Other Info ] + + Ubuntu Studio's live ISO and installed system are affected by this. Only Lubuntu's installed system is affected by this. + + [ Original Report ] + Upgrading Lubuntu Jammy to Lubuntu Noble using TUI results in "Software sources" not correctly updated after upgrade. Prompt= shows normal and not LTS Used command sudo do-release-upgrade -d Otherwise the upgrade is good see attached screenshot ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 24.04 Package: software-properties-common 0.99.46 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 6.8.0-22.22-generic 6.8.1 Uname: Linux 6.8.0-22-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.28.0-0ubuntu1 Architecture: amd64 CasperMD5CheckResult: unknown CurrentDesktop: LXQt Date: Sat Apr 13 11:44:28 2024 InstallationDate: Installed on 2024-04-13 (0 days ago) InstallationMedia: Lubuntu 22.04.4 LTS "Jammy Jellyfish" - Release amd64 (20240331) PackageArchitecture: all SourcePackage: software-properties UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to noble on 2024-04-13 (0 days ago) mtime.conffile..etc.init.d.apport: 2024-02-22T14:20:00 ** Also affects: software-properties (Ubuntu Noble) Importance: Critical Assignee: Simon Quigley (tsimonq2) Status: Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to software-properties in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2061214 Title: [SRU] Software Sources is not compatible with deb822 Status in software-properties package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in software-properties source package in Noble: Con
[Touch-packages] [Bug 2061214] Re: [SRU] Software Sources is not compatible with deb822
** Summary changed: - Software sources not correctly updated after upgrade and/or new installs + [SRU] Software Sources is not compatible with deb822 ** Summary changed: - [SRU] Software Sources is not compatible with deb822 + Software Sources is not compatible with deb822 ** Summary changed: - Software Sources is not compatible with deb822 + [SRU] Software Sources is not compatible with deb822 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to software-properties in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2061214 Title: [SRU] Software Sources is not compatible with deb822 Status in software-properties package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: Upgrading Lubuntu Jammy to Lubuntu Noble using TUI results in "Software sources" not correctly updated after upgrade. Prompt= shows normal and not LTS Used command sudo do-release-upgrade -d Otherwise the upgrade is good see attached screenshot ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 24.04 Package: software-properties-common 0.99.46 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 6.8.0-22.22-generic 6.8.1 Uname: Linux 6.8.0-22-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.28.0-0ubuntu1 Architecture: amd64 CasperMD5CheckResult: unknown CurrentDesktop: LXQt Date: Sat Apr 13 11:44:28 2024 InstallationDate: Installed on 2024-04-13 (0 days ago) InstallationMedia: Lubuntu 22.04.4 LTS "Jammy Jellyfish" - Release amd64 (20240331) PackageArchitecture: all SourcePackage: software-properties UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to noble on 2024-04-13 (0 days ago) mtime.conffile..etc.init.d.apport: 2024-02-22T14:20:00 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/2061214/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
