Re: [Touch-packages] [Bug 518056] Re: cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c
Wow, thanks. Got my ç back after what feels like a decade! Though AltGr doesn't combine - it directly prints a ç. I personally don't need the other characters with cedillas but am still curious as to what the quirk is. Thank you again, Nadine On Feb 1, 2016 7:56 PM, "TC" <518...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote: > Hi, the answer is simple. This layout treats the cedilla as an accent, > and it is available with AltGr+= :D > > Using this you can use the cedilla wherever you want - Ç ç ş Ş ţ Ţ and > so forth. > > -- > You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug > report. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/518056 > > Title: > cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c > > To manage notifications about this bug go to: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/518056/+subscriptions > -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to libx11 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/518056 Title: cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c Status in xkeyboard-config: Won't Fix Status in xlibs: Fix Released Status in ibus package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in language-selector package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in libx11 package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: When typing in a US-international keyboard with dead-keys (or UK-international), typing 'c results in an accented c instead of a cedilla. There is a workaround, which is editing the /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodule-files.d/libgtk2.0-0.immodules file and changing the line "cedilla" "Cedilla" "gtk20" "/usr/share/locale" "az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa" to "cedilla" "Cedilla" "gtk20" "/usr/share/locale" "az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa:en" (add the 'en' at the end). However, every time some update on this file is applied, one looses the change, and we get back to the accented c. That means having to modify the file again, logout and login. For me this is no problem. But for my brother, mom, dad, etc, it is always something that at least makes me less proud of having convinced them to use Ubuntu, because they don't know what to do each time this happens. I think we really need a configurable keyboard layout, or at least (and that would be very easy), the inclusion of alternate layouts on install that for the dead-key options (as US-deadkey and UK-deakey), alternate layouts as US-deadkey-cedilla. This change is relevant for at least Portuguese and French. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/518056/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Touch-packages] [Bug 518056] Re: cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c
@Felipe Venting out frustrations will not help in getting the bug fixed. Let us try to be more factual. You came up with a test case. Please give your feedback in an orderly way so Canonical and the community can help. What version of Ubuntu were you testing. Which sw did you test and what was the pass/fail status is each one. Regards Calvo On Mon, Apr 6, 2015, 19:45 Felipe Micaroni Lalli wrote: > Unfortunately I tested all solutions in this long thread and it does not > work in all cases. For example, for me, in Emacs I still get ć instead ç > and in IntelliJ and Webstorm the same. I have to let a gedit opened, > type there and then copy/paste, what is a mess! This fix have to > rollback exactly the same behavior we had in old versions of Ubuntu, and > the same behavior we have in all other systems: OpenBSD, Windows, Mac > OSX etc. It is a shame Ubuntu still have this bug so long! > > -- > You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug > report. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/518056 > > Title: > cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c > > Status in central project for keyboard configuration: > Confirmed > Status in gtk+2.0 package in Ubuntu: > Confirmed > Status in language-selector package in Ubuntu: > Fix Released > Status in libx11 package in Ubuntu: > New > Status in xkeyboard-config package in Ubuntu: > Confirmed > > Bug description: > > When typing in a US-international keyboard with dead-keys (or > UK-international), > typing 'c results in an accented c instead of a cedilla. > > There is a workaround, which is editing the > > /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodule-files.d/libgtk2.0-0.immodules > > file and changing the line > > "cedilla" "Cedilla" "gtk20" "/usr/share/locale" > "az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa" > > to > > "cedilla" "Cedilla" "gtk20" "/usr/share/locale" > "az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa:en" > > (add the 'en' at the end). > > However, every time some update on this file is applied, one looses the > change, > and we get back to the accented c. That means having to modify the file > again, > logout and login. > > For me this is no problem. But for my brother, mom, dad, etc, it is > always something > that at least makes me less proud of having convinced them to use > Ubuntu, because > they don't know what to do each time this happens. > > I think we really need a configurable keyboard layout, or at least (and > that would > be very easy), the inclusion of alternate layouts on install that for > the dead-key > options (as US-deadkey and UK-deakey), alternate layouts as > US-deadkey-cedilla. > > This change is relevant for at least Portuguese and French. > > To manage notifications about this bug go to: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/518056/+subscriptions > -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to gtk+2.0 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/518056 Title: cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c Status in central project for keyboard configuration: Confirmed Status in gtk+2.0 package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in language-selector package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in libx11 package in Ubuntu: New Status in xkeyboard-config package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: When typing in a US-international keyboard with dead-keys (or UK-international), typing 'c results in an accented c instead of a cedilla. There is a workaround, which is editing the /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodule-files.d/libgtk2.0-0.immodules file and changing the line "cedilla" "Cedilla" "gtk20" "/usr/share/locale" "az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa" to "cedilla" "Cedilla" "gtk20" "/usr/share/locale" "az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa:en" (add the 'en' at the end). However, every time some update on this file is applied, one looses the change, and we get back to the accented c. That means having to modify the file again, logout and login. For me this is no problem. But for my brother, mom, dad, etc, it is always something that at least makes me less proud of having convinced them to use Ubuntu, because they don't know what to do each time this happens. I think we really need a configurable keyboard layout, or at least (and that would be very easy), the inclusion of alternate layouts on install that for the dead-key options (as US-deadkey and UK-deakey), alternate layouts as US-deadkey-cedilla. This change is relevant for at least Portuguese and French. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/518056/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Touch-packages] [Bug 518056] Re: cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c
Gunnar Thank you very much for your time trying to solve this bug with the community. It is really important for us in Brazil and for Ubuntu as well. Best regards man! On Fri, Apr 3, 2015, 10:50 Raphael Calvo wrote: > Gunnar, > I do agree we must have input from someone from Portugal to validate > everything we are saying... > But, even though I especulated about Portugal history the other post with > MS-DOS configuration data is solid data and can be corroborated with a > simple web research. > > Regards. > > On Fri, Apr 3, 2015, 10:35 Gunnar Hjalmarsson <518...@bugs.launchpad.net> > wrote: > >> Thanks for the additional info, Raphael! >> >> Both Leandro's research and your input indeed indicate that we should >> make the same change for pt_PT, but it would be good if someone living >> in Portugal could comment on it first, so we don't upload something >> based on speculation. >> >> Are you Brazilian guys reasonably satisfied with 'the LC_CTYPE approach' >> for now? >> >> As regards the possible future fcitx issue I mentioned, I filed bug >> #1439231. >> >> -- >> You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug >> report. >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/518056 >> >> Title: >> cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c >> >> Status in central project for keyboard configuration: >> Confirmed >> Status in gtk+2.0 package in Ubuntu: >> Confirmed >> Status in language-selector package in Ubuntu: >> Fix Released >> Status in libx11 package in Ubuntu: >> New >> Status in xkeyboard-config package in Ubuntu: >> Confirmed >> >> Bug description: >> >> When typing in a US-international keyboard with dead-keys (or >> UK-international), >> typing 'c results in an accented c instead of a cedilla. >> >> There is a workaround, which is editing the >> >> /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodule-files.d/libgtk2.0-0.immodules >> >> file and changing the line >> >> "cedilla" "Cedilla" "gtk20" "/usr/share/locale" >> "az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa" >> >> to >> >> "cedilla" "Cedilla" "gtk20" "/usr/share/locale" >> "az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa:en" >> >> (add the 'en' at the end). >> >> However, every time some update on this file is applied, one looses the >> change, >> and we get back to the accented c. That means having to modify the file >> again, >> logout and login. >> >> For me this is no problem. But for my brother, mom, dad, etc, it is >> always something >> that at least makes me less proud of having convinced them to use >> Ubuntu, because >> they don't know what to do each time this happens. >> >> I think we really need a configurable keyboard layout, or at least (and >> that would >> be very easy), the inclusion of alternate layouts on install that for >> the dead-key >> options (as US-deadkey and UK-deakey), alternate layouts as >> US-deadkey-cedilla. >> >> This change is relevant for at least Portuguese and French. >> >> To manage notifications about this bug go to: >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/518056/+subscriptions >> > -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to gtk+2.0 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/518056 Title: cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c Status in central project for keyboard configuration: Confirmed Status in gtk+2.0 package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in language-selector package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in libx11 package in Ubuntu: New Status in xkeyboard-config package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: When typing in a US-international keyboard with dead-keys (or UK-international), typing 'c results in an accented c instead of a cedilla. There is a workaround, which is editing the /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodule-files.d/libgtk2.0-0.immodules file and changing the line "cedilla" "Cedilla" "gtk20" "/usr/share/locale" "az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa" to "cedilla" "Cedilla" "gtk20" "/usr/share/locale" "az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa:en" (add the 'en' at the end). However, every time some update on this file is applied, one looses the change, and we get back to the accented c. That means having to modify the file again, logout and login. For me this is no problem. But for my brother, mom, dad, etc, it is always something that at least makes me less proud of having convinced them to use Ubuntu, because they don't know what to do each time this happens. I think we really need a configurable keyboard layout, or at least (and that would be very easy), the inclusion of alternate layouts on install that for the dead-key options (as US-deadkey and UK-deakey), alternate layouts as US-deadkey-cedilla. This change is relevant for at least Portuguese and French. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/518056/+subscriptions -- Mailing lis
Re: [Touch-packages] [Bug 518056] Re: cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c
Gunnar, I do agree we must have input from someone from Portugal to validate everything we are saying... But, even though I especulated about Portugal history the other post with MS-DOS configuration data is solid data and can be corroborated with a simple web research. Regards. On Fri, Apr 3, 2015, 10:35 Gunnar Hjalmarsson <518...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote: > Thanks for the additional info, Raphael! > > Both Leandro's research and your input indeed indicate that we should > make the same change for pt_PT, but it would be good if someone living > in Portugal could comment on it first, so we don't upload something > based on speculation. > > Are you Brazilian guys reasonably satisfied with 'the LC_CTYPE approach' > for now? > > As regards the possible future fcitx issue I mentioned, I filed bug > #1439231. > > -- > You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug > report. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/518056 > > Title: > cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c > > Status in central project for keyboard configuration: > Confirmed > Status in gtk+2.0 package in Ubuntu: > Confirmed > Status in language-selector package in Ubuntu: > Fix Released > Status in libx11 package in Ubuntu: > New > Status in xkeyboard-config package in Ubuntu: > Confirmed > > Bug description: > > When typing in a US-international keyboard with dead-keys (or > UK-international), > typing 'c results in an accented c instead of a cedilla. > > There is a workaround, which is editing the > > /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodule-files.d/libgtk2.0-0.immodules > > file and changing the line > > "cedilla" "Cedilla" "gtk20" "/usr/share/locale" > "az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa" > > to > > "cedilla" "Cedilla" "gtk20" "/usr/share/locale" > "az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa:en" > > (add the 'en' at the end). > > However, every time some update on this file is applied, one looses the > change, > and we get back to the accented c. That means having to modify the file > again, > logout and login. > > For me this is no problem. But for my brother, mom, dad, etc, it is > always something > that at least makes me less proud of having convinced them to use > Ubuntu, because > they don't know what to do each time this happens. > > I think we really need a configurable keyboard layout, or at least (and > that would > be very easy), the inclusion of alternate layouts on install that for > the dead-key > options (as US-deadkey and UK-deakey), alternate layouts as > US-deadkey-cedilla. > > This change is relevant for at least Portuguese and French. > > To manage notifications about this bug go to: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/518056/+subscriptions > -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to gtk+2.0 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/518056 Title: cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c Status in central project for keyboard configuration: Confirmed Status in gtk+2.0 package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in language-selector package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in libx11 package in Ubuntu: New Status in xkeyboard-config package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: When typing in a US-international keyboard with dead-keys (or UK-international), typing 'c results in an accented c instead of a cedilla. There is a workaround, which is editing the /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodule-files.d/libgtk2.0-0.immodules file and changing the line "cedilla" "Cedilla" "gtk20" "/usr/share/locale" "az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa" to "cedilla" "Cedilla" "gtk20" "/usr/share/locale" "az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa:en" (add the 'en' at the end). However, every time some update on this file is applied, one looses the change, and we get back to the accented c. That means having to modify the file again, logout and login. For me this is no problem. But for my brother, mom, dad, etc, it is always something that at least makes me less proud of having convinced them to use Ubuntu, because they don't know what to do each time this happens. I think we really need a configurable keyboard layout, or at least (and that would be very easy), the inclusion of alternate layouts on install that for the dead-key options (as US-deadkey and UK-deakey), alternate layouts as US-deadkey-cedilla. This change is relevant for at least Portuguese and French. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/518056/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Touch-packages] [Bug 518056] Re: cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c
We can find some "evidence" of what I am saying here about the Latin Code page for MS-DOS. http://www.dosbox.com/wiki/KEYB Here follows a screenshot of the MS-DOS character set setup a.k.a. codepage). Note that in the keyboard code in Brazil is Empty... That is because on that time in history we did not have a keyboard. Only in the 90's that we standardized a Brazilian keyboard (ABNT2). You can also note that for EVERY Latin country the carachter set was code page 437 which in "modern" versions of MS-DOS (I believe since MS-DOS 5.0) was superseded by code page 850. The only thing that changes is the keyboard layout (for countries that had their own layouts) but the combination of symbols and letters to represent a new one such as ç was the same independent of the keyboard chosen. Since in Brazil we did not have a specific keyboard we used the US International (code 103) with the code page set to 850. Portugal had their own keyboard layout but if they were using the US international keyboard layout the behavior was the same as here in Brazil. ... Maybe this help... Regards Calvo On Fri, Apr 3, 2015, 09:44 Raphael Calvo wrote: > One more thing... > > In the glory days of DR-DOS/MS-DOS, if I am not mistaken, there was no > keyboard setup specially made for Brazil regarding US International > keyboard. It was a setup for Latin languages, I.e., every country that has > a latin language was affected (French, portuguese, Italian...) > > Regards > > Calvo > > On Fri, Apr 3, 2015, 09:39 Raphael Calvo wrote: > >> Gunnar, >> >> My guess here is based on history but maybe I am wrong >> The reason we Brazilians use the US international keyboard so much is >> because in the '70s and '80s we didn't have a national industry to cope >> with our internal demands for products related to computers. Almost every >> single computer we had was imported (leggaly or illegally) from USA or it >> was a clone made by our industry based on an US computer model. >> >> Portugal may have had a similar issue (I am especulating here) because >> they were also under a dictatorship for some time, but in their case if a >> similar situation occurred than they would probably had access to some >> design made in Europe instead of something from US. Again, I am >> especulating... It is just a theory but Leandro pointed out that he made a >> brief research about this issue being relevant to Portuguese people and he >> found some links to substantiate the claim that Portugueses would be >> benefited from this fix. >> >> Kind Regards >> >> Calvo >> >> On Thu, Apr 2, 2015, 19:50 Gunnar Hjalmarsson <518...@bugs.launchpad.net> >> wrote: >> >>> Thanks for your comments re pt_PT, Leandro. >>> >>> As long as we consider setting LC_CTYPE, in any of the ways mentioned in >>> comment #96, a fix, it should be noted that '+c results in ç >>> irrespective of which keyboard layout you use. In other words, the >>> changed behavior is not conditioned by the use of an English US >>> international keyboard layout, as Raphael suggested in comment #98. I >>> assume that this was considered a reasonable behavior for Brazilian >>> users, considering which physical keyboards are typically used in >>> Brazil. >>> >>> We could propose a change to the libx11 package which adds a >>> /usr/share/X11/locale/pt_PT.UTF-8/Compose file. But before proposing >>> such a change I would like to ask if it would make as much sense for >>> users living in Portugal as the corresponding Brazilian file makes for >>> users living in Brazil. >>> >>> * Do users who live in Portugal use an English US international >>> keyboard layout as often as Brazilian users do, or do they typically >>> use some Portuguese keyboard layout? >>> >>> * Since the behavior may make typing certain other European languages >>> more difficult, is that drawback possibly of greater importance for >>> users living in Portugal (Europe)? >>> >>> The only Portuguese locales which are supported in Ubuntu are pt_PT and >>> pt_BR. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug >>> report. >>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/518056 >>> >>> Title: >>> cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c >>> >>> Status in central project for keyboard configuration: >>> Confirmed >>> Status in gtk+2.0 package in Ubuntu: >>> Confirmed >>> Status in language-selector package in Ubuntu: >>> Fix Released >>> Status in libx11 package in Ubuntu: >>> New >>> Status in xkeyboard-config package in Ubuntu: >>> Confirmed >>> >>> Bug description: >>> >>> When typing in a US-international keyboard with dead-keys (or >>> UK-international), >>> typing 'c results in an accented c instead of a cedilla. >>> >>> There is a workaround, which is editing the >>> >>> /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodule-files.d/libgtk2.0-0.immodules >>> >>> file and changing the line >>> >>> "cedilla" "Cedilla" "gtk20" "/usr/share/locale" >>> "az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:
Re: [Touch-packages] [Bug 518056] Re: cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c
One more thing... In the glory days of DR-DOS/MS-DOS, if I am not mistaken, there was no keyboard setup specially made for Brazil regarding US International keyboard. It was a setup for Latin languages, I.e., every country that has a latin language was affected (French, portuguese, Italian...) Regards Calvo On Fri, Apr 3, 2015, 09:39 Raphael Calvo wrote: > Gunnar, > > My guess here is based on history but maybe I am wrong > The reason we Brazilians use the US international keyboard so much is > because in the '70s and '80s we didn't have a national industry to cope > with our internal demands for products related to computers. Almost every > single computer we had was imported (leggaly or illegally) from USA or it > was a clone made by our industry based on an US computer model. > > Portugal may have had a similar issue (I am especulating here) because > they were also under a dictatorship for some time, but in their case if a > similar situation occurred than they would probably had access to some > design made in Europe instead of something from US. Again, I am > especulating... It is just a theory but Leandro pointed out that he made a > brief research about this issue being relevant to Portuguese people and he > found some links to substantiate the claim that Portugueses would be > benefited from this fix. > > Kind Regards > > Calvo > > On Thu, Apr 2, 2015, 19:50 Gunnar Hjalmarsson <518...@bugs.launchpad.net> > wrote: > >> Thanks for your comments re pt_PT, Leandro. >> >> As long as we consider setting LC_CTYPE, in any of the ways mentioned in >> comment #96, a fix, it should be noted that '+c results in ç >> irrespective of which keyboard layout you use. In other words, the >> changed behavior is not conditioned by the use of an English US >> international keyboard layout, as Raphael suggested in comment #98. I >> assume that this was considered a reasonable behavior for Brazilian >> users, considering which physical keyboards are typically used in >> Brazil. >> >> We could propose a change to the libx11 package which adds a >> /usr/share/X11/locale/pt_PT.UTF-8/Compose file. But before proposing >> such a change I would like to ask if it would make as much sense for >> users living in Portugal as the corresponding Brazilian file makes for >> users living in Brazil. >> >> * Do users who live in Portugal use an English US international >> keyboard layout as often as Brazilian users do, or do they typically >> use some Portuguese keyboard layout? >> >> * Since the behavior may make typing certain other European languages >> more difficult, is that drawback possibly of greater importance for >> users living in Portugal (Europe)? >> >> The only Portuguese locales which are supported in Ubuntu are pt_PT and >> pt_BR. >> >> -- >> You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug >> report. >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/518056 >> >> Title: >> cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c >> >> Status in central project for keyboard configuration: >> Confirmed >> Status in gtk+2.0 package in Ubuntu: >> Confirmed >> Status in language-selector package in Ubuntu: >> Fix Released >> Status in libx11 package in Ubuntu: >> New >> Status in xkeyboard-config package in Ubuntu: >> Confirmed >> >> Bug description: >> >> When typing in a US-international keyboard with dead-keys (or >> UK-international), >> typing 'c results in an accented c instead of a cedilla. >> >> There is a workaround, which is editing the >> >> /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodule-files.d/libgtk2.0-0.immodules >> >> file and changing the line >> >> "cedilla" "Cedilla" "gtk20" "/usr/share/locale" >> "az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa" >> >> to >> >> "cedilla" "Cedilla" "gtk20" "/usr/share/locale" >> "az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa:en" >> >> (add the 'en' at the end). >> >> However, every time some update on this file is applied, one looses the >> change, >> and we get back to the accented c. That means having to modify the file >> again, >> logout and login. >> >> For me this is no problem. But for my brother, mom, dad, etc, it is >> always something >> that at least makes me less proud of having convinced them to use >> Ubuntu, because >> they don't know what to do each time this happens. >> >> I think we really need a configurable keyboard layout, or at least (and >> that would >> be very easy), the inclusion of alternate layouts on install that for >> the dead-key >> options (as US-deadkey and UK-deakey), alternate layouts as >> US-deadkey-cedilla. >> >> This change is relevant for at least Portuguese and French. >> >> To manage notifications about this bug go to: >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/518056/+subscriptions >> > -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to gtk+2.0 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/518056 Title: cedilla appe
Re: [Touch-packages] [Bug 518056] Re: cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c
Gunnar, My guess here is based on history but maybe I am wrong The reason we Brazilians use the US international keyboard so much is because in the '70s and '80s we didn't have a national industry to cope with our internal demands for products related to computers. Almost every single computer we had was imported (leggaly or illegally) from USA or it was a clone made by our industry based on an US computer model. Portugal may have had a similar issue (I am especulating here) because they were also under a dictatorship for some time, but in their case if a similar situation occurred than they would probably had access to some design made in Europe instead of something from US. Again, I am especulating... It is just a theory but Leandro pointed out that he made a brief research about this issue being relevant to Portuguese people and he found some links to substantiate the claim that Portugueses would be benefited from this fix. Kind Regards Calvo On Thu, Apr 2, 2015, 19:50 Gunnar Hjalmarsson <518...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote: > Thanks for your comments re pt_PT, Leandro. > > As long as we consider setting LC_CTYPE, in any of the ways mentioned in > comment #96, a fix, it should be noted that '+c results in ç > irrespective of which keyboard layout you use. In other words, the > changed behavior is not conditioned by the use of an English US > international keyboard layout, as Raphael suggested in comment #98. I > assume that this was considered a reasonable behavior for Brazilian > users, considering which physical keyboards are typically used in > Brazil. > > We could propose a change to the libx11 package which adds a > /usr/share/X11/locale/pt_PT.UTF-8/Compose file. But before proposing > such a change I would like to ask if it would make as much sense for > users living in Portugal as the corresponding Brazilian file makes for > users living in Brazil. > > * Do users who live in Portugal use an English US international > keyboard layout as often as Brazilian users do, or do they typically > use some Portuguese keyboard layout? > > * Since the behavior may make typing certain other European languages > more difficult, is that drawback possibly of greater importance for > users living in Portugal (Europe)? > > The only Portuguese locales which are supported in Ubuntu are pt_PT and > pt_BR. > > -- > You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug > report. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/518056 > > Title: > cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c > > Status in central project for keyboard configuration: > Confirmed > Status in gtk+2.0 package in Ubuntu: > Confirmed > Status in language-selector package in Ubuntu: > Fix Released > Status in libx11 package in Ubuntu: > New > Status in xkeyboard-config package in Ubuntu: > Confirmed > > Bug description: > > When typing in a US-international keyboard with dead-keys (or > UK-international), > typing 'c results in an accented c instead of a cedilla. > > There is a workaround, which is editing the > > /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodule-files.d/libgtk2.0-0.immodules > > file and changing the line > > "cedilla" "Cedilla" "gtk20" "/usr/share/locale" > "az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa" > > to > > "cedilla" "Cedilla" "gtk20" "/usr/share/locale" > "az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa:en" > > (add the 'en' at the end). > > However, every time some update on this file is applied, one looses the > change, > and we get back to the accented c. That means having to modify the file > again, > logout and login. > > For me this is no problem. But for my brother, mom, dad, etc, it is > always something > that at least makes me less proud of having convinced them to use > Ubuntu, because > they don't know what to do each time this happens. > > I think we really need a configurable keyboard layout, or at least (and > that would > be very easy), the inclusion of alternate layouts on install that for > the dead-key > options (as US-deadkey and UK-deakey), alternate layouts as > US-deadkey-cedilla. > > This change is relevant for at least Portuguese and French. > > To manage notifications about this bug go to: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/518056/+subscriptions > -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to gtk+2.0 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/518056 Title: cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c Status in central project for keyboard configuration: Confirmed Status in gtk+2.0 package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in language-selector package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in libx11 package in Ubuntu: New Status in xkeyboard-config package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: When typing in a US-international keyboard with dead-keys (or UK-international), typing 'c results in an accented c instead of a cedilla. There i
Re: [Touch-packages] [Bug 518056] Re: cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c
1) Windows -> US International + Br.PT -> '+c = ç 2) Windows -> US International + EN.US -> '+c = 'c 3) Ubuntu -> US International + Br.PT -> '+c = ć 4) Ubuntu -> US International + EN.US -> '+c = 'c My expectation would be to have the behavior #1 == #3 across the whole environment, i.e., terminal, gedit, libreoffice... Previous versions and flavors don't need to be fixed, IMHO. Focus on the next release because we already have workarounds for the previous releases. Regards On Tue, Mar 31, 2015, 19:15 Gunnar Hjalmarsson <518...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote: > On 31/03/2015 23:37, Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote: > > Just like you I think it would be more natural to create an > > alternative keyboard layout which could be selected in Text Entry. I > > just don't know if and if so how it could be accomplished. > > To clarify: As you know, I figured out how to add an alternative > keyboard layout. What I don't know is how you would fix it in xkeyboard- > config so the same dead key behaves differently depending on the letter. > > One possibility which we haven't discussed is to use some *other* key > for dead_cedilla, and leave the behavior of the dead_acute key as is. I > see two problems with that, though: > > 1. No obvious dispensable key which could be used for the purpose. > > 2. It would be a brand new behavior for the users, and different from >how it works on Windows. > > -- > You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug > report. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/518056 > > Title: > cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c > > Status in central project for keyboard configuration: > Confirmed > Status in gtk+2.0 package in Ubuntu: > Confirmed > Status in xkeyboard-config package in Ubuntu: > Confirmed > > Bug description: > > When typing in a US-international keyboard with dead-keys (or > UK-international), > typing 'c results in an accented c instead of a cedilla. > > There is a workaround, which is editing the > > /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodule-files.d/libgtk2.0-0.immodules > > file and changing the line > > "cedilla" "Cedilla" "gtk20" "/usr/share/locale" > "az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa" > > to > > "cedilla" "Cedilla" "gtk20" "/usr/share/locale" > "az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa:en" > > (add the 'en' at the end). > > However, every time some update on this file is applied, one looses the > change, > and we get back to the accented c. That means having to modify the file > again, > logout and login. > > For me this is no problem. But for my brother, mom, dad, etc, it is > always something > that at least makes me less proud of having convinced them to use > Ubuntu, because > they don't know what to do each time this happens. > > I think we really need a configurable keyboard layout, or at least (and > that would > be very easy), the inclusion of alternate layouts on install that for > the dead-key > options (as US-deadkey and UK-deakey), alternate layouts as > US-deadkey-cedilla. > > This change is relevant for at least Portuguese and French. > > To manage notifications about this bug go to: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/518056/+subscriptions > -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to gtk+2.0 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/518056 Title: cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c Status in central project for keyboard configuration: Confirmed Status in gtk+2.0 package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in xkeyboard-config package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: When typing in a US-international keyboard with dead-keys (or UK-international), typing 'c results in an accented c instead of a cedilla. There is a workaround, which is editing the /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodule-files.d/libgtk2.0-0.immodules file and changing the line "cedilla" "Cedilla" "gtk20" "/usr/share/locale" "az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa" to "cedilla" "Cedilla" "gtk20" "/usr/share/locale" "az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa:en" (add the 'en' at the end). However, every time some update on this file is applied, one looses the change, and we get back to the accented c. That means having to modify the file again, logout and login. For me this is no problem. But for my brother, mom, dad, etc, it is always something that at least makes me less proud of having convinced them to use Ubuntu, because they don't know what to do each time this happens. I think we really need a configurable keyboard layout, or at least (and that would be very easy), the inclusion of alternate layouts on install that for the dead-key options (as US-deadkey and UK-deakey), alternate layouts as US-deadkey-cedilla. This change is relevant for at least Portuguese and French. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/518
Re: [Touch-packages] [Bug 518056] Re: cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c
Could someone check out the ibus theory that I mentioned. I am currently without a computer... Just mobile. On Fri, Mar 27, 2015, 13:50 Leandro <518...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote: > I have reported the bug again, at site and package suggested by Gunnar: > > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89795 > > Leandro. > > -- > You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug > report. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/518056 > > Title: > cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c > > Status in gtk+2.0 package in Ubuntu: > Confirmed > Status in xkeyboard-config package in Ubuntu: > Confirmed > > Bug description: > > When typing in a US-international keyboard with dead-keys (or > UK-international), > typing 'c results in an accented c instead of a cedilla. > > There is a workaround, which is editing the > > /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodule-files.d/libgtk2.0-0.immodules > > file and changing the line > > "cedilla" "Cedilla" "gtk20" "/usr/share/locale" > "az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa" > > to > > "cedilla" "Cedilla" "gtk20" "/usr/share/locale" > "az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa:en" > > (add the 'en' at the end). > > However, every time some update on this file is applied, one looses the > change, > and we get back to the accented c. That means having to modify the file > again, > logout and login. > > For me this is no problem. But for my brother, mom, dad, etc, it is > always something > that at least makes me less proud of having convinced them to use > Ubuntu, because > they don't know what to do each time this happens. > > I think we really need a configurable keyboard layout, or at least (and > that would > be very easy), the inclusion of alternate layouts on install that for > the dead-key > options (as US-deadkey and UK-deakey), alternate layouts as > US-deadkey-cedilla. > > This change is relevant for at least Portuguese and French. > > To manage notifications about this bug go to: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+2.0/+bug/ > 518056/+subscriptions > -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to gtk+2.0 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/518056 Title: cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c Status in gtk+2.0 package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in xkeyboard-config package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: When typing in a US-international keyboard with dead-keys (or UK-international), typing 'c results in an accented c instead of a cedilla. There is a workaround, which is editing the /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodule-files.d/libgtk2.0-0.immodules file and changing the line "cedilla" "Cedilla" "gtk20" "/usr/share/locale" "az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa" to "cedilla" "Cedilla" "gtk20" "/usr/share/locale" "az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa:en" (add the 'en' at the end). However, every time some update on this file is applied, one looses the change, and we get back to the accented c. That means having to modify the file again, logout and login. For me this is no problem. But for my brother, mom, dad, etc, it is always something that at least makes me less proud of having convinced them to use Ubuntu, because they don't know what to do each time this happens. I think we really need a configurable keyboard layout, or at least (and that would be very easy), the inclusion of alternate layouts on install that for the dead-key options (as US-deadkey and UK-deakey), alternate layouts as US-deadkey-cedilla. This change is relevant for at least Portuguese and French. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+2.0/+bug/518056/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Touch-packages] [Bug 518056] Re: cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c
Great article... I followed and installed on my computer and it works flawlessly. I think I will use it until the bug is fixed. Question, if I upgrade to a new Ubuntu version would I have to install him back again? Regards Calvo On Jan 25, 2015 2:20 AM, "gui ambros" <518...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote: > I solved my problem with uim and a custom .XCompose. Works reliably > across gtk+2.0 and QT. Documented the steps here: > > https://wrgms.com/using-xcompose-with-chrome-and-sublime-text/ > > -- > You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug > report. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/518056 > > Title: > cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c > > Status in gtk+2.0 package in Ubuntu: > Confirmed > > Bug description: > > When typing in a US-international keyboard with dead-keys (or > UK-international), > typing 'c results in an accented c instead of a cedilla. > > There is a workaround, which is editing the > > /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodule-files.d/libgtk2.0-0.immodules > > file and changing the line > > "cedilla" "Cedilla" "gtk20" "/usr/share/locale" > "az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa" > > to > > "cedilla" "Cedilla" "gtk20" "/usr/share/locale" > "az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa:en" > > (add the 'en' at the end). > > However, every time some update on this file is applied, one looses the > change, > and we get back to the accented c. That means having to modify the file > again, > logout and login. > > For me this is no problem. But for my brother, mom, dad, etc, it is > always something > that at least makes me less proud of having convinced them to use > Ubuntu, because > they don't know what to do each time this happens. > > I think we really need a configurable keyboard layout, or at least (and > that would > be very easy), the inclusion of alternate layouts on install that for > the dead-key > options (as US-deadkey and UK-deakey), alternate layouts as > US-deadkey-cedilla. > > This change is relevant for at least Portuguese and French. > > To manage notifications about this bug go to: > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+2.0/+bug/518056/+subscriptions > -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to gtk+2.0 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/518056 Title: cedilla appears as accented c (ć instead of ç) when typing 'c Status in gtk+2.0 package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: When typing in a US-international keyboard with dead-keys (or UK-international), typing 'c results in an accented c instead of a cedilla. There is a workaround, which is editing the /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodule-files.d/libgtk2.0-0.immodules file and changing the line "cedilla" "Cedilla" "gtk20" "/usr/share/locale" "az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa" to "cedilla" "Cedilla" "gtk20" "/usr/share/locale" "az:ca:co:fr:gv:oc:pt:sq:tr:wa:en" (add the 'en' at the end). However, every time some update on this file is applied, one looses the change, and we get back to the accented c. That means having to modify the file again, logout and login. For me this is no problem. But for my brother, mom, dad, etc, it is always something that at least makes me less proud of having convinced them to use Ubuntu, because they don't know what to do each time this happens. I think we really need a configurable keyboard layout, or at least (and that would be very easy), the inclusion of alternate layouts on install that for the dead-key options (as US-deadkey and UK-deakey), alternate layouts as US-deadkey-cedilla. This change is relevant for at least Portuguese and French. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+2.0/+bug/518056/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
