Re: [Toybox] today in "shut up, gnu!"
i'd been deliberately _not_ sending you https://www.phoronix.com/news/GNU-Coreutils-9.5-Released for fear of winding you up :-) On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 7:34 AM Rob Landley wrote: > > On 4/12/24 13:24, enh via Toybox wrote: > > ~/aosp-main-with-phones$ find external/ -name NOTICE -type l -maxdepth 2 > > find: warning: you have specified the global option -maxdepth after > > the argument -name, but global options are not positional, i.e., > > -maxdepth affects tests specified before it as well as those specified > > after it. Please specify global options before other arguments. > > > > (it does do the right thing, but insists on whining first.) > > I've hit that too, and am big into Not Doing That. Thought I'd blogged about > it, > but it could have been irc, or twitter (which I deleted when twitler bought it > but have an archive I should probably post somewhere), or... probably too old > for mastodon? > > There's a reason I get so exasperated about each new gnu/nag I stub my toe on. > It's gone beyond isolated incident into "pattern of looking down on everyone > else and sneering". > > Unix has always been a silent protagonist, without which shell scripts are a > pain to do. If it doesn't work, they'll figure out why. Just behave > consistently > (according to SOME kind of understandable logic) and let them keep the pieces. > Sometimes there's a -v flag to activate printfs() stuck into the code, but > don't > express opinions when they didn't ASK. (Put them in the man page or --help if > it's that important.) > > This has ALWAYS been the unix way. There are ALWAYS corner cases, and > deterministic behavior is not difficult to debug. The gnu/FSF never got that. > Stallman only decamped to unix under protest, a refugee from the Jupiter > project's collapse orphaning ITS, and he never really understood it. > > RMS did not INVENT the idea of cloning unix with his big announcement in 1983. > Unix was a diverse community starting from the 1974 ACM article, let alone the > Berkeley Software Distribution in 1975. The first full from-scratch Unix clone > (writing their own kernel, compiler, and command line) was Coherent, which > shipped in 1980. Paul Allen copied subdirectories and file descriptors from > unix > into DOS 2.0 not long after. Minix started in 1983 and shipped in 1986, and > Linux is 100% a descendant of Minix (developed on minix, its first filesystem > was minix, the development discussion on comp.os.minix, he inherited 80% of > the > minix community because he took patches and Tanenbaum didn't...) There's a > famous tanenbaum-torvalds debate preserved for posterity, there is NOT a > stallman-torvalds debate because nobody cared what stallman had to say. > > Nor did he invent freeware, which was the universal norm before the Apple vs > Franklin decision in 1983 because you couldn't copyright binaries before Steve > Jobs got the appeals court to change the law. Byte and Compute magazines had > basic listings in the back of each issue for you to type in, decus and CP/M > northwest had software libraries, the commodore 64 came bundled with a disk of > Jim Butterfield's software but he didn't WORK for them: he founded the Toronto > Pet User's Group (TPUG) and published free software with source code. > > But Stallman mansplained at everyone else at the top of his lungs nonstop from > the moment he showed up, and there are all sorts of topics that can't NOT have > an "as opposed to what stallman's saying, the truth is" section today... > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeware > > Sigh, watching https://youtu.be/2gOGHdZDmEk and https://youtu.be/WWfsz5R6irs > and > https://youtu.be/9RO5ZAmzjvI every time the narration talks about Pierre > Spray I > get Stallman vibes. There's a broadcast version of Dunning-Kruger where you > plausibly preach to an audience who doesn't know better, and become The Expert > that everybody must get a quote from every time something happens in that > area, > while the people actually doing the work facepalm at every third word. > > Rob ___ Toybox mailing list Toybox@lists.landley.net http://lists.landley.net/listinfo.cgi/toybox-landley.net
[Toybox] df not working on FreeBSD
Hello,
df throws the following error on FreeBSD:
root@140amd64_noopts-usrports:/usr/local/toybox/bin # ./df /
df: getmntinfo: Invalid argument
A little bit of poking around shows that getmntinfo expects the second
argument (the mode) to be one of these, and not 0:
sys/sys/mount.h:
#define MNT_WAIT1 /* synchronously wait for I/O to complete */
#define MNT_NOWAIT 2 /* start all I/O, but do not wait for it */
#define MNT_LAZY3 /* push data not written by filesystem syncer */
#define MNT_SUSPEND 4 /* Suspend file system after sync */
Changing 0 to MNT_NOWAIT in portability.c makes df happy again.
diff --git a/lib/portability.c b/lib/portability.c
index 83382d1d..a677173e 100644
--- a/lib/portability.c
+++ b/lib/portability.c
@@ -65,7 +65,11 @@ struct mtab_list *xgetmountlist(char *path)
int i, count;
if (path) error_exit("xgetmountlist");
+#if defined(__FreeBSD__)
+ if ((count = getmntinfo(, MNT_NOWAIT)) == 0) perror_exit("getmntinfo");
+#else
if ((count = getmntinfo(, 0)) == 0) perror_exit("getmntinfo");
+#endif
// The "test" part of the loop is done before the first time through and
// again after each "increment", so putting the actual load there avoids
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Re: [Toybox] Microsoft github took down the xz repo.
On Sun, Apr 14, 2024 at 9:14 AM Oliver Webb via Toybox wrote: > > To revive a old thread with new technical info I stumbled upon: > > On Saturday, March 30th, 2024 at 15:58, Rob Landley wrote: > > > I set up gitea for Jeff on a j-core internal server, and it was fine except > > it > > used a BUNCH of memory and cpu for very vew users. Running cgi on > > dreamhost's > > servers is a bother at the best of times (I don't want to worry about > > exploits), > > and the available memory/CPU there is wind-up toy levels. > > > > My website is a bunch of static pages rsynced into place, some of which use > > xbithack to enable a crude #include syntax, and that's about what the > > server can > > handle. > > Going through the list of "minimal tools" on https://suckless.org/rocks/, I > stumbled > upon a git frontend called stagit > (https://git.codemadness.org/stagit/file/README.html) > which the suckless project uses as it's git frontend. And from looking at it, > works purely > via static pages and is fairly minimal (2000 LOC in pure C with only non-libc > dependency being > libgit2. One of it's "cons" is that it's "slow on repo's with 2000+ commits > due to diff > generation", And then says that it takes 3s to run on a repo with 1500 > commits). Have you considered it? > > The main downside of it is that it's MIT Licensed, which means if you wanted > to bundle it > in with the main repo there could be be licensing kerfuffles to deal with. > > But to have a solution, you must have a problem. The 2 main issues I have > with the current git management > are the fact there doesn't seem to be a way to clone the current repo > directly from landley.net (Making Microsoft > GitHub the middleman). And the fact I can't browse the source code without > github or android code search acting as > the middleman (This is a problem I've actually ran into on networks where > github is blocked for some utterly insane > reason, meaning I have to go to android code search to read through the code > occasionally). have you tried cloning the repo? seems to work fine to me. $> git clone https://landley.net/toybox/git/ toybox > > The first of these seems near impossible to solve with _only_ static > webpages, since a git server is not > a static thing. I don't know yet tho. Git repo with read-only access over http(s) is a static thing. you dont need dedicated git spesific server software in order to give simple pull access. Just host your git folder with any generic http/https server that can host folder of files and knows atleast simple GET request. https://dev.to/chr15m/git-hacks-self-host-a-minimal-git-repo-over-ssh-388h so you can just serve your git folder with any http server (example with bloated python3. httpd should work fine but needs more setup) $>python -m http.server --directory whereever/mybare_repo.git then clone $>git clone http://localhost:8000/ test > The second one seems easier though, copying or maybe symlinking stuff from > the source directory with "find" > in a pipeline with bash to make a simple, browse-able tree would take > probably take a few dozen lines of > at most, It could also probably just be an rsync command if you don't want to > worry about listing out directory > contents. > > Both of these problems are remediable now, but in a year they might not be > (ProtonMail just said "If you > don't sign in for a long enough time we will delete all your data" like > Google drive is doing, it's not > hard to imagine Microsoft GitHub doing a similar thing with accounts they > locked out by their 2FA crusade) > Rob, Are you interested in future-proofing the codebase from whatever GitHub > and AOSP decide to do? This is a situation > where I'd normally create a patch and let Rob decide whether to apply it or > not. But since I probably shouldn't > put the source tree inside the commit/ folder, and this operation can be done > with a fancy rsync invocation > I'm not sure if writing any code is the correct solution. > > Thanks, > > - Oliver Webb > > > ___ > Toybox mailing list > Toybox@lists.landley.net > http://lists.landley.net/listinfo.cgi/toybox-landley.net Jarno ___ Toybox mailing list Toybox@lists.landley.net http://lists.landley.net/listinfo.cgi/toybox-landley.net
