Re: [Toybox] expr "horizontal lines" in extended description?
On 12/02/14 20:44, Isaac Dunham wrote: > On Tue, Dec 02, 2014 at 07:24:28PM +0100, Felix Janda wrote: >> Rob Landley wrote: >>> Clarification received from The Austin Group. >>> >>> (Unfortunately the PDF he mentions costs $2500, and is thus completely >>> irrelevant in 2014.) >> >> It also seems to be rendered correctly on the POSIX man page. >> >> https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/docs/man-pages/man-pages-posix/man-pages-posix-2013-a.tar.xz >> >> Felix > >>From what I've read, there's (a) the Austin Group source for the documents, > which is written in troff; they render it (apparently using some AT&T > troff derivative) to (b) PDF and (c) HTML. They provided the troff source > to Micheal Kerrisk, who has added appropriate notices and distributed that > as man-pages-posix-2013. I've been emailing them off-list. They fixed the HTML: http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/utilities/expr.html And they also say I can login with the same credentials I set up to join the mailing list, that's "member" enough for the purpose of viewing the PDF. (Separately, I got pointed at a page with a workaround for the login: https://github.com/geoff-codes/posix-standard .) The posix guys said that if it was up to them the PDF would also be a free download, but it's a joint copyright and the current agreement doesn't allow it. I'm happy the HTML is fixed. I know they say the PDF trumps it, but the HTML version is really what we use as a standard. (URL in each command and all...) Rob ___ Toybox mailing list Toybox@lists.landley.net http://lists.landley.net/listinfo.cgi/toybox-landley.net
Re: [Toybox] expr "horizontal lines" in extended description?
On Tue, Dec 02, 2014 at 07:24:28PM +0100, Felix Janda wrote: > Rob Landley wrote: > > Clarification received from The Austin Group. > > > > (Unfortunately the PDF he mentions costs $2500, and is thus completely > > irrelevant in 2014.) > > It also seems to be rendered correctly on the POSIX man page. > > https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/docs/man-pages/man-pages-posix/man-pages-posix-2013-a.tar.xz > > Felix >From what I've read, there's (a) the Austin Group source for the documents, which is written in troff; they render it (apparently using some AT&T troff derivative) to (b) PDF and (c) HTML. They provided the troff source to Micheal Kerrisk, who has added appropriate notices and distributed that as man-pages-posix-2013. Thanks, Isaac ___ Toybox mailing list Toybox@lists.landley.net http://lists.landley.net/listinfo.cgi/toybox-landley.net
Re: [Toybox] expr "horizontal lines" in extended description?
Rob Landley wrote: > Clarification received from The Austin Group. > > (Unfortunately the PDF he mentions costs $2500, and is thus completely > irrelevant in 2014.) It also seems to be rendered correctly on the POSIX man page. https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/docs/man-pages/man-pages-posix/man-pages-posix-2013-a.tar.xz Felix ___ Toybox mailing list Toybox@lists.landley.net http://lists.landley.net/listinfo.cgi/toybox-landley.net
Re: [Toybox] expr "horizontal lines" in extended description?
Clarification received from The Austin Group. (Unfortunately the PDF he mentions costs $2500, and is thus completely irrelevant in 2014.) On 12/01/14 09:46, Geoff Clare wrote: > Rob Landley wrote, on 29 Nov 2014: >> >> In http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/utilities/expr.html >> the extended description says that operators of equal precedence are >> separated by horizontal lines. >> >> It's an html table, all the entries are separated by horizontal lines. I >> know that * and / are of equal precedence by poking at the gnu/dammit >> implementation of expr, but I dunno how to tell that from the spec? > > This is a limitation of the HTML translation. In the PDF the table > only has horizontal lines between groups of entries, as follows (just > showing the operator, for brevity): > > > | > > & > > = > > > >= > < > <= > != > > + > - > > * > / > % > > : > > (expr) > > integer > string > > > The PDF version always takes precdence over the HTML version. > ___ Toybox mailing list Toybox@lists.landley.net http://lists.landley.net/listinfo.cgi/toybox-landley.net
