Re: [Trac] Re: t-h.o down, but community not so much

[Steffen Hoffmann]

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Am 16.08.2012 21:07, schrieb osimons:
> With
> the relative high degree of interest overlap, and relatively low
> traffic for both lists, I don't see why we can't just revert to that.
[...]
> 
> I haven't really gotten around to subscribing to the trac-hacks
> mailing list myself, so perhaps my opinion as "non-member" don't
> count... ;-)

Just what I wanted to see for considerations. Thanks for that information.

I see your point, only for me it has been the other way round: I
subscribed to th-users some years ago, but only recently I managed to do
the same for this mailing list (just soon enough as it seems now), still
feeling three mailing lists might be too much. And the interest overlap
argument counts too, sure.

Some more arguments, please. Who's next? ;-)

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[Trac] Re: t-h.o down, but community not so much

[osimons]

On 16 Aug, 18:09, Steffen Hoffmann  wrote:
> Am 16.08.2012 16:56, schrieb RjOllos:
> > On Thursday, August 16, 2012 4:47:34 AM UTC-4, al.wi...@logica.com wrote:
>
> >     mail.python.org 
> >      >     > hosts mailing lists for a
> >     number of python related projects . They may be willing to host
> >     trac-hacks also. Access to the archive can be public or member only.
>
> >     I can make enquiries if you d like.
>
> > Yeah, that sounds worth looking into. The current th-users is a mailman
> > list. It would be nice if we didn't have to run mailman ourselves, and
> > have it tied to the server that server that host trac-hacks.
>
> +1 from me too. I like the idea of server-independence as well. I've
> searched a bit on my own, but didn't find that. Nice idea, and since
> they run the same software as the currently down list it might be
> possible to move the archives to the new location too.
>
> I'm very much for starting this ASAP, because this could already fly
> before we have t-h.o restored.
>
> Anyone opposing that move here? I'd love to hear critical arguments now,
> not afterwards. :-)

Mike set up the trac-hacks mailing list because of his dislike for
Google Groups. Before that, all plugin user traffic was part of trac-
users group (here) and plugin development was part of trac-dev. With
the relative high degree of interest overlap, and relatively low
traffic for both lists, I don't see why we can't just revert to that.

I'm subscribed at Google Groups, but using "no email" option so that I
can just follow traffic on lists by RSS feeds at leisure and reply via
web if I need to add my opinion. Each to his/her own, and Google
Groups just offers much more flexibility. Anyone in the Trac "mailing
community" will already have cleared the Google Groups hurdle and
singed up at trac-dev and/or trac-users. If needed, adding a trac-
hacks at this same service would be my preference.

I haven't really gotten around to subscribing to the trac-hacks
mailing list myself, so perhaps my opinion as "non-member" don't
count... ;-)


:::simon

https://www.coderesort.com/u/simon/blog

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Installing from t.h.o mirror @ bitbucket WAS: [Trac] Re: t-h.o down, but community not so much

[Olemis Lang]

Hi !

The whole story ...

We have an issue now that t.h.o is down . The last few days Apache(TM)
Bloodhound 0.1.0-rc1 was released by the ASF . The fact is that it
contains an installer script . One of the steps consists of
pip-installing some plugins from (... guess what ...) t.h.o. svn repos
. Rules specified in requirements files [1]_ [2]_ .

On 8/14/12, Steffen Hoffmann  wrote:
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> Am 14.08.2012 21:10, schrieb Steffen Hoffmann:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I call for your response, if there is another repository clone out there
>> with a revision higher than my own - 11924.
>>
[...]
>>
>> We'll want to serve all of us as good as possible with such an
>> intermediate solution, at least until t-h.o is restored.
>
[...]
>
> Until someone else steps up with an even better plan, there it is for a
> start:
>
>  https://bitbucket.org/hasienda/t-h.o_shadow
>

... so I'm wondering , is it possible to change requirements rules so
that pip will download plugins from t-h.o_shadow hg repository ?

I'm asking this in spite of providing a temporary solution in order to
work around existing issue [3]_ hoping that Bloodhound users will be
able to use installer script in the meantime , even with some
modifications . We will provide new requirements file if this is
possible , of course ;)

Thanks in advance !

.. [1] requirements-dev.txt

(http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/bloodhound/trunk/installer/requirements-dev.txt?revision=1371732&view=co)

.. [2] requirements.txt

(http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/bloodhound/trunk/installer/requirements.txt?revision=1371732&view=co)

.. [3] Install fails when trac-hacks is down
(https://issues.apache.org/bloodhound/ticket/161)

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Re: [Trac] How to create a new page?

[Matthew Caron]

On 08/16/2012 12:00 PM, Yves S. Garret wrote:

I've looked this up on Bing, but I don't get it :) .

I don't use Trac enough.  Basically, what do I do?  I'd like to have a
new page and put in a bunch of new instructions for other users.  I
clicked on Edit This Page, added the title of my new document in a list
and then saved... but there was no link generated that would permit me
to go and modify my new page... it was just text.


Did you CamelCase the page name, or enclose use a [wiki:pagename] tag?

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Re: [Trac] Re: t-h.o down, but community not so much

[Steffen Hoffmann]

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Am 16.08.2012 16:56, schrieb RjOllos:
> 
> 
> On Thursday, August 16, 2012 4:47:34 AM UTC-4, al.wi...@logica.com wrote:
> 
> mail.python.org 
>  > hosts mailing lists for a
> number of python related projects . They may be willing to host
> trac-hacks also. Access to the archive can be public or member only. 
> 
> I can make enquiries if you’d like.
> 
> 
> Yeah, that sounds worth looking into. The current th-users is a mailman
> list. It would be nice if we didn't have to run mailman ourselves, and
> have it tied to the server that server that host trac-hacks.

+1 from me too. I like the idea of server-independence as well. I've
searched a bit on my own, but didn't find that. Nice idea, and since
they run the same software as the currently down list it might be
possible to move the archives to the new location too.

I'm very much for starting this ASAP, because this could already fly
before we have t-h.o restored.

Anyone opposing that move here? I'd love to hear critical arguments now,
not afterwards. :-)

Cheers,

Steffen Hoffmann

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[Trac] How to create a new page?

[Yves S. Garret]

I've looked this up on Bing, but I don't get it :) .

I don't use Trac enough.  Basically, what do I do?  I'd like to have a new 
page and put in a bunch of new instructions for other users.  I clicked on 
Edit This Page, added the title of my new document in a list and then 
saved... but there was no link generated that would permit me to go and 
modify my new page... it was just text.

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Re: [Trac] Pygments & syntax highlighting

[Emmanuel Blot]

Hi Christian,

> No. This is #5533.
Ok ;-)

> So basically the only "solution" you have for now short of implementing
> #5533, is to do a `svn pset svn:mime-type text/x-cmake` on your CMake files
> in the repository.
Ok. I don't think it worth dealing with so many changes. I can leave without.

Thanks for your help,
Manu

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Re: [Trac] Re: t-h.o down, but community not so much

[RjOllos]

On Thursday, August 16, 2012 4:47:34 AM UTC-4, al.wi...@logica.com wrote:
>
>  mail.python.org  hosts mailing 
> lists for a number of python related projects . They may be willing to host 
> trac-hacks also. Access to the archive can be public or member only. 
>
> I can make enquiries if you’d like.
>

Yeah, that sounds worth looking into. The current th-users is a mailman 
list. It would be nice if we didn't have to run mailman ourselves, and have 
it tied to the server that server that host trac-hacks. 

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Re: [Trac] Re: trac.edgewall.org theme

[Samuel Degrande]

On 08/16/2012 02:28 PM, Sam Halliday wrote:

Nevermind, it turns out that edg.edgewall.org is using a dev release and
that is the theme! :-)



Yep, with 1.0 + WikiExtrasPlugin (for the round boxes), you get that
shiny theme.

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[Trac] Re: trac.edgewall.org theme

[Sam Halliday]

Nevermind, it turns out that edg.edgewall.org is using a dev release and 
that is the theme! :-)

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Re: [Trac] Pygments & syntax highlighting

[Christian Boos]

On 8/16/2012 12:11 PM, Emmanuel Blot wrote:

Hi,

I'm not sure how to add file type that Pygments supports natively, but
that Trac does not recognize.

For example, CMake files have been supported by Pygments for a long
time (since 1.2), but Trac does not manage them.

It seems the way to go (from
http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracIni#mimeviewer-section) is to add
CMake type to the mime_map option.

I've added "text/x-cmake:cmake" and now the syntax highlighter works
with "#!cmake" in quoted blocks. However, Trac file browser does not
highlight CMakeLists.txt files. I've added
"text/x-cmake:CMakeLists.txt" to the mime_map option, but it does not
help.

1. Specific question: How to specify to Trac that "CMakeLists.txt"
files should be highlighted


I believe we only look for the suffix, not for the full name with 
fnmatch. See get_mimetype() in trac/mimeview/api.py.



2. Generic question: How to tell Trac to defer all highlighting
decisions to Pygments,  which already knows about all supported types,
rather than letting Trac performs the mapping on its own - is it even
possible?



No. This is #5533.

So basically the only "solution" you have for now short of implementing 
#5533, is to do a `svn pset svn:mime-type text/x-cmake` on your CMake 
files in the repository.


Cheers,

-- Christian

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[Trac] trac.edgewall.org theme

[Sam Halliday]

Hi all,

I followed the instructions at 
http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/CookBook/TracLayoutRecipe to set up the 
trac.edgewall.org theme, but my TRAC install is missing a lot of the lovely 
shading that is on the edgewall site (e.g. around the body of a ticket). 
It's definitely working, because I'm getting all the edgewall.org links and 
the image in the top right of my trac 0.12.2 install.

According to my Safari "Resource Inspector", there are no failed image or 
stylesheets, so gfx paths are not the problem.

Their CSS is slightly updated, so I grabbed it directly and used it, but no 
difference.

Can anybody explain how I can make my TRAC install look as great as 
trac.edgewall.org? I basically just want the nice shading and rounded 
borders, with maybe a little bit of the dark gray background at the edges.

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[Trac] Pygments & syntax highlighting

[Emmanuel Blot]

Hi,

I'm not sure how to add file type that Pygments supports natively, but
that Trac does not recognize.

For example, CMake files have been supported by Pygments for a long
time (since 1.2), but Trac does not manage them.

It seems the way to go (from
http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracIni#mimeviewer-section) is to add
CMake type to the mime_map option.

I've added "text/x-cmake:cmake" and now the syntax highlighter works
with "#!cmake" in quoted blocks. However, Trac file browser does not
highlight CMakeLists.txt files. I've added
"text/x-cmake:CMakeLists.txt" to the mime_map option, but it does not
help.

1. Specific question: How to specify to Trac that "CMakeLists.txt"
files should be highlighted
2. Generic question: How to tell Trac to defer all highlighting
decisions to Pygments,  which already knows about all supported types,
rather than letting Trac performs the mapping on its own - is it even
possible?

TIA,
Manu

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[Trac] TracMercurial 'module' object has no attribute 'directives'

[phill]

I've installed the FreeBSD trac 0.12.3 and mercurial 2.3 ports and 
the TracMercurial 0.12.0.29 plugin from source, I've checked in 
Admin->Plugins and the TracMercurial plugin is loaded but I get the 
following error:

*Warning:* Can't synchronise with repository "(default)" (Unsupported 
version control system "hg": No module named repo). Look in the Trac log 
for more information. 

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "build/bdist.freebsd-9.0-RC1-amd64/egg/trac/loader.py", line 68, in 
_load_eggs
entry.load(require=True)
  File 
"/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c11-py2.7.egg/pkg_resources.py",
 
line 1954, in load
entry = __import__(self.module_name, globals(),globals(), ['__name__'])
  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/mercurial/demandimport.py", 
line 114, in _demandimport
mod = _origimport(name, globals, locals)
  File "build/bdist.freebsd-9.0-RC1-amd64/egg/trac/mimeview/rst.py", line 
155, in 
  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/mercurial/demandimport.py", 
line 87, in __getattribute__
return getattr(self._module, attr)
AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'directives'

Any ideas what's going wrong?

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RE: [Trac] Re: t-h.o down, but community not so much

[Willmer, Alex (PTS)]

mail.python.org  hosts mailing lists 
for a number of python related projects . They may be willing to host 
trac-hacks also. Access to the archive can be public or member only.

I can make enquiries if you'd like.

From: trac-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:trac-users@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of RjOllos
Sent: 16 August 2012 02:07
To: trac-users@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Trac] Re: t-h.o down, but community not so much



On Wednesday, August 15, 2012 3:39:50 PM UTC-4, hasienda wrote:
Are there other choices? Still I don't advocate moving to alternatives
at all costs, just for being 'not-Google'. It looks like a clever move
to strengthen competition in this area. Maybe it's just me, or not?

I'm not sure about alternatives. I do think we should prefer mailing lists that 
don't require login to view. Whenever I try to access a Yahoo group I'm asked 
to login. I wouldn't have noticed for Google groups since I'm always logged in, 
but tested just now and it appears that the group is viewable without a login.
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