Re: [Trac] Re: Moving Trac 0.11 from failing machine to new machine with fresh Trac 1.0 install

2013-11-26 Thread Gabriel Rossetti
On Nov 27, 2013 12:52 AM, "RjOllos"  wrote:
>
>
>
> On Saturday, November 23, 2013 3:14:37 PM UTC-8, Gabriel wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I am trying to move my current Trac env. which is on 0.11 to a new
machine with 1.0. I have found the following that could be useful:
>>
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/trac-users/transfer/trac-users/bl_pLags9aI/Ir9MWRz935gJ
>>
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/trac-users/transfer/trac-users/MektJ2GTJBE/ZWA088GQ8RkJ
>>
>> I wanted to know if those methods would work in my case? Both machines
run linux, I want to transfer all tickets, the wiki, the blog, etc.
>>
>> The second link mentions using " trac-admin hotcopy", this sound clean,
but I am not sure it would work since I have different versions.
>
>
> Hot copy should do the trick for you if you are running SQLite as a
database. Support for PostgreSQL and MySQL were not added until 1.0, so
you'll have to handle the database backup yourself if running one of the
databases:
> http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8954
> You'll also need to move your web server configuration files.
>
>
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Thanks RjOllos,

I am using SQLite, good thing then :). I'll update this thread when I am
done.

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[Trac] Re: Moving Trac 0.11 from failing machine to new machine with fresh Trac 1.0 install

2013-11-26 Thread RjOllos


On Saturday, November 23, 2013 3:14:37 PM UTC-8, Gabriel wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am trying to move my current Trac env. which is on 0.11 to a new machine 
> with 1.0. I have found the following that could be useful:
>
>- 
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/trac-users/transfer/trac-users/bl_pLags9aI/Ir9MWRz935gJ
>- 
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/trac-users/transfer/trac-users/MektJ2GTJBE/ZWA088GQ8RkJ
>
> I wanted to know if those methods would work in my case? Both machines run 
> linux, I want to transfer all tickets, the wiki, the blog, etc.
>
> The second link mentions using " trac-admin hotcopy", this sound clean, 
> but I am not sure it would work since I have different versions.
>

Hot copy should do the trick for you if you are running SQLite as a 
database. Support for PostgreSQL and MySQL were not added until 1.0, so 
you'll have to handle the database backup yourself if running one of the 
databases:
http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8954
You'll also need to move your web server configuration files.
 

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[Trac] Re: Adding a new project to a standalone Tracd system

2013-11-26 Thread RjOllos
On Monday, November 25, 2013 1:33:38 PM UTC-8, Wayne Taylor wrote:
>
> I have a standalone project that uses basic authentication.
>
> I didn't expect more than one project to ever use my simple Trac system, 
> then my company bought 5 more companies and 
>

 

> my boss wants everyone to use Trac,
>

That's a smart boss!
 

> but he wants different projects.
>
> My first install uses:
>
>
> //var/trac
>
> as the environment.
>
> I think I want to setup environment as:
>
> //var/trac_m
>
> and then create a folder for each project under //trac_m.
>
> I currently use htpasswd to manage all the passwords. It exists as: 
> /var/trac/.htpasswd
>
> How do I migrate, alter, add my setup to include two or more projects?
>

The exact on which web server you are running, and whether you want an 
htpassd file for each project, or to share a single htpasswd file with all 
projects. Typically though, you provide some sort of parent directory 
directive that would point to /var/trac_m in your case. You might take a 
look here:
http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracMultipleProjects

If you are running Apache with mod_wsgi, the necessary changes should be 
covered by:
http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracAuthenticationIntroduction#BasicAuthentication
http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracModWSGI#UsingBasicAuthentication
https://code.google.com/p/modwsgi/wiki/IntegrationWithTrac




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Re: [Trac] Trac Wiki

2013-11-26 Thread Mike Dewhirst

On 27/11/2013 5:39am, Stuart Cracraft wrote:

Hi,

I need to maintain a page at Trac Wiki for some project document
requirements.

To me, Trac Wiki is non-intuitive.

Where is the Trac Wiki beginner's doc?


My Trac Wiki is on my own server and the documentation link is on the 
right of the screen just above the main menu near the top of the page. 
Look for "Help/Guide" beneath the search box.


If you click that link it takes you to The Trac User and Administration 
Guide. You should see a Table of Contents on the right.


I mention all this because, being a wiki on your own server, you can 
alter the content to make it more intuitive for yourself and/or your users.


I encourage you to do that and when you are happy with it offer it back 
to the community.


As it happens you have a golden opportunity to improve the Help/Guide by 
writing a specific beginner's guide - because you are currently looking 
at it with the fresh eyes of a newcomer to Trac. That only happens once 
for everyone.


Something I found useful making my own documentation in the wiki was the 
link at the bottom of each page to download the page as plain text. 
Someone here suggested that when I asked how replicate a particular 
effect. Can't remember who it was but I hope I thanked him/her.


Cheers

Mike




Stuart

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[Trac] Re: Exporting Trac Wiki pages without DB backups?

2013-11-26 Thread RjOllos


On Thursday, November 21, 2013 6:23:56 AM UTC-8, trub3101 wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Is the above feasible?
>
> Our SVN (Linux) server suddenly crashed about a month ago. Whilst I have 
> been able to get SVN back up and running again on a new server I have not 
> been able to get our (Trac) Wiki pages (on the same server) to work.
>
> Whilst I have been able recreate the Trac environments and copied across 
> the attachments, templates, etc., from what could be retrieved from the old 
> server, all I am getting is the standard Trac Wiki pages and nothing from 
> the environments.
>
> I admit I am a complete noveice with regard to Trac however, my hunch is 
> this is happening because the Trac environment databases (MySQL) do not 
> contain any data pertaining to attachments, templates, etc.,
>
> Unfortunately, I was unable to retrieve any backups and can only guess 
> that these where backed up to the system disk which is now corrupted.
>
> Is that game over? Or is there some way I can save the day by using the 
> files that where restored from the old server?
>
> Many thanks in advance,
>
> trub3101
>


The wiki pages are stored in the database, so if your database is lost and 
you have no backups, then there is nothing that can be done. Is it possible 
to access and create a dump of the database? 

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Re: [Trac] Trac Wiki

2013-11-26 Thread Steffen Hoffmann
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On 26.11.2013 21:46, Stuart Cracraft wrote:
> Won't be baited by trolls however
> adept with words and blame/finger-pointing. 

Is this meant to be fun? If so I don't get it, sorry, if not I won't
care at all, as I wish to spend my time here with acting kindly and
being helpful and getting educated myself.

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Re: [Trac] Trac Wiki

2013-11-26 Thread Steffen Hoffmann
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On 26.11.2013 21:32, Matthew Caron wrote:
> On 11/26/2013 03:04 PM, Steffen Hoffmann wrote:
>> Trac has a rather clear, thoughtful and long-term tested web-UI design
>> compared to the competition. As you see by Matthew's answer, its right
>> in front of you, if you take your time to look and read.
> 
> (For those without a sense of humor, this was facetious.)

Nice. Even as a non-native-speaker I got the humor rather easily, even
before getting to this bottom line.

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Re: [Trac] Trac Wiki

2013-11-26 Thread Stuart Cracraft
Won't be baited by trolls however
adept with words and blame/finger-pointing. 

> On Nov 26, 2013, at 12:04 PM, Steffen Hoffmann  wrote:
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>> On 26.11.2013 19:39, Stuart Cracraft wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I need to maintain a page at Trac Wiki for some project document
>> requirements.
>> 
>> To me, Trac Wiki is non-intuitive.
>> 
>> Where is the Trac Wiki beginner's doc?
> 
> I feel, that you need more feedback about the perception of your
> behavior here. Offense is not intended at all from my side, even if you
> mean to spot it.
> 
> To me, you're a very inpatient customer, who is shouting a bit too loud
> for someone using software and support all for free.
> 
> Trac has a rather clear, thoughtful and long-term tested web-UI design
> compared to the competition. As you see by Matthew's answer, its right
> in front of you, if you take your time to look and read.
> 
> Otherwise you may feel that it's no fun to answer your questions by
> getting no response at all, you see.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Steffen Hoffmann
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Re: [Trac] Trac Wiki

2013-11-26 Thread Matthew Caron

On 11/26/2013 03:04 PM, Steffen Hoffmann wrote:

Trac has a rather clear, thoughtful and long-term tested web-UI design
compared to the competition. As you see by Matthew's answer, its right
in front of you, if you take your time to look and read.


I don't like this answer, as it makes me feel less like a genius. See, I 
go looking for stuff in Trac, and with combinations of google, looking 
at the DB and grepping through the source, I find what I'm looking for, 
make my tweaks, do my fixes, and impress everyone with how clever I am.


Now, you come along and tell me that Trac really is this intuitive, and 
that I'm not that clever, it's just so well-designed, thought out, and 
documented that one of my more clever cats could install it on 
Ubuntu/Postgres/Apache/WSGI/SSL/selfsigned certs.


This is really damaging to my ego and sense of self, Steffen. As a 
product of the "you are a beautiful and unique snowflake" American 
public school system, I demand that you state that Trac is impossible, 
non-intutive, opaque and ill-documented, thus cementing the validation 
of my brilliance and resourcefulness.


(For those without a sense of humor, this was facetious.)
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Re: [Trac] Trac Wiki

2013-11-26 Thread Steffen Hoffmann
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On 26.11.2013 19:39, Stuart Cracraft wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I need to maintain a page at Trac Wiki for some project document
> requirements.
> 
> To me, Trac Wiki is non-intuitive.
> 
> Where is the Trac Wiki beginner's doc?

I feel, that you need more feedback about the perception of your
behavior here. Offense is not intended at all from my side, even if you
mean to spot it.

To me, you're a very inpatient customer, who is shouting a bit too loud
for someone using software and support all for free.

Trac has a rather clear, thoughtful and long-term tested web-UI design
compared to the competition. As you see by Matthew's answer, its right
in front of you, if you take your time to look and read.

Otherwise you may feel that it's no fun to answer your questions by
getting no response at all, you see.

Sincerely,

Steffen Hoffmann
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Re: [Trac] Trac Wiki

2013-11-26 Thread Matthew Caron



On 11/26/2013 01:39 PM, Stuart Cracraft wrote:

Hi,

I need to maintain a page at Trac Wiki for some project document
requirements.

To me, Trac Wiki is non-intuitive.

Where is the Trac Wiki beginner's doc?


At the bottom of the edit window.

Reference to the pages at TEO:

http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/WikiFormatting
http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracWiki
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[Trac] Trac Wiki

2013-11-26 Thread Stuart Cracraft
Hi,

I need to maintain a page at Trac Wiki for some project document 
requirements.

To me, Trac Wiki is non-intuitive.

Where is the Trac Wiki beginner's doc?

Stuart

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Re: [Trac] Confused about installing Trac with easy_install

2013-11-26 Thread Steffen Hoffmann
On 26.11.2013 18:21, Feuermurmel wrote:
> After installing Trac with easy_install, I can't find fcgi_frontend.py
> for setting up FastCGI with lighttpd.
> 
> I have a fresh installation of Python 2.6 and setuptools 1.4.1 on OS X
> 10.8 (installed using macports). Then I install Trac using the following
> command:
> 
> $ sudo easy_install-2.6 Trac==1.0
> 
> After that, there's a Python egg at the following path:
> 
> /opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/python2.6/site-packages/Trac-1.0-py2.6.egg
> 
> The egg contains a file called "fcgi_frontend.py" but of course I can't
> use it without extracting it. Am I supposed to do that manually or am I
> doing something wrong?

Yes. Trac install is not finished by just compilation and installation
of scripts. There is more, i.e. deploying some static content for use by
the web-server. Please do yourself a favor and read the details in the
wiki documentation [1]. You'll find others already answered many common
questions by contributing to this documentation. Thanks for taking care
to read.


Steffen Hoffmann


[1] http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracInstall#DeployingTrac



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[Trac] Confused about installing Trac with easy_install

2013-11-26 Thread Feuermurmel
After installing Trac with easy_install, I can't find fcgi_frontend.py for 
setting up FastCGI with lighttpd.

I have a fresh installation of Python 2.6 and setuptools 1.4.1 on OS X 10.8 
(installed using macports). Then I install Trac using the following command:

$ sudo easy_install-2.6 Trac==1.0

After that, there's a Python egg at the following path:

/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/python2.6/site-packages/Trac-1.0-py2.6.egg

The egg contains a file called "fcgi_frontend.py" but of course I can't use 
it without extracting it. Am I supposed to do that manually or am I doing 
something wrong?

Regards
Michael

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