[Trac] Re: Trac VS Bugzilla
I forgot a feature a big feature that I use all the time. I use it so much, I forgot about it. unfortunately for us, most of out outside contractors, don't have access to our Trac, and more importantly, our Subversion repo, due to "IT restrictions" lets say. So, we end up doing "manual" source control for these individuals. They send us their changes, we merge them into the trunk, and send out a zip file of the latest/greatest trunk to everyone. Well, that was without trac. Now, we still have to merge their changes to the trunk. but we then go to the revision log for the trunk between revision LAST_TIME_WE_SENT_IT_OUT and the head revision we just merged in. we click the "zip archive" download in other formats option, and send the resulting zip file to everyone, which contains the complete contents, and directory structure of ONLY the changed files. SOO much better than doing a full checkout/local copy update, manually zipping the whole dang solution, and emailing the whole thing (or ftp server, whatever) Yes, Ideally they would have access to the repo, however my expectation is that our IT will let that happen in about a billion years from now It's another one of "the little things" that make Trac, as a whole, a much superior tool. It's not just one or two key features, but its more than a sum of its parts, significantly more. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Trac Users" group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to trac-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: Trac VS Bugzilla
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 8:11 AM, normalAnomaly wrote: > > Hello. > > I am considering using Trac as an issue and bug tracking system. I've never > used it before, however I do have some experience with Bugzilla. > > Can anyone give me a general overview of pros / cons of using Trac for bug > tracking over Bugzilla? > I see Trac like a big mountain of French chocolate ... Bugzilla is a skary animal ! Beyond that, I like Trac because customization is very easy, and everything is well organized, fast dev & tons of incredible plugins. -- Regards, Olemis. Blog ES: http://simelo-es.blogspot.com/ Blog EN: http://simelo-en.blogspot.com/ Featured article: --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Trac Users" group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to trac-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: Trac VS Bugzilla
I'm very happy that my script is usefull not only for me Thank you for the translation! Next time when I write some small progs for trac I will make the comments in english. =) 2009/7/5 Eirik Schwenke : > Иван Бессарабов skrev 02. juli 2009 08:42: >> I've had a task - every morning I needed to send list of task to the owners >> of that tikets. >> >> I've written the small script in perl language. The script is avaliable in >> my blog, but the blog is in russian language >> http://blog.bessarabov.ru/2008/07/23/send-active-trac-tickets-to-mail/ >> >> I've placed that script into the crontab. >> >> Feel free to contact me on any questions about this script. >> > > I made a minor change, and translated the comments to English (I hope, I > don't speak russian ;-). Just in case it's usefull for someone on this list. > > I tested the script briefly, and it appears to work correctly. > > > Best regards, > > -- > .---. Eirik Schwenke > ( NSD ) Harald Hårfagresgate 29 Rom 150 > '---' N-5007 Bergen tlf: (555) 889 13 > > GPG-key at pgp.mit.edu Id 0x8AA3392C > -- bessarabov --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Trac Users" group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to trac-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: Trac VS Bugzilla
Иван Бессарабов skrev 02. juli 2009 08:42:
> I've had a task - every morning I needed to send list of task to the owners
> of that tikets.
>
> I've written the small script in perl language. The script is avaliable in
> my blog, but the blog is in russian language
> http://blog.bessarabov.ru/2008/07/23/send-active-trac-tickets-to-mail/
>
> I've placed that script into the crontab.
>
> Feel free to contact me on any questions about this script.
>
I made a minor change, and translated the comments to English (I hope, I
don't speak russian ;-). Just in case it's usefull for someone on this list.
I tested the script briefly, and it appears to work correctly.
Best regards,
--
.---. Eirik Schwenke
( NSD ) Harald Hårfagresgate 29Rom 150
'---' N-5007 Bergentlf: (555) 889 13
GPG-key at pgp.mit.edu Id 0x8AA3392C
#! /usr/bin/perl
use strict;
use warnings;
use DBI;
# Cron script for sending regular reminders to ticket owner.
#
# Call from Cron, or Windows Scheduler.
#
# Original author: Ðван ÐеÑÑаÑабов
# Upstream version: http://blog.bessarabov.ru/2008/07/23/send-active-trac-tickets-to-mail/
#
# Simplisting translation to English and minor modifications by
# Eirik Schwenke . Any errors in this version is not the fault of
# the original author.
#
# Help with transalation provided by http://babelfish.yahoo.com/
###
### Start - configuration settings
# Path to trac install:
my $trac = "/var/trac/test";
# Ticket owner
my $owner = "some_user";
# Email address where reminder is sent
my $email = "some_us...@example.com";
### End - configuration settings
###
# Attempt to connect to trac database:
my $file = $trac . "/db/trac.db";
my $dbh = DBI->connect("dbi:SQLite:dbname=$file","","", { RaiseError => 1, PrintError => 0 }) or
die "Failed to connect to SQLite filesystem digest cache database at $file: " . DBI->errstr;
$dbh->{unicode} = 1;
# The query to be executed. This searches for all active tickets.
my $sth = $dbh->prepare("
SELECT id, summary
FROM ticket
WHERE
status IN ('new', 'assigned', 'reopened')
AND owner = '$owner'
ORDER BY id");
$sth->execute();
# Slurp all result into $content variable.
my $content;
while (my $result = $sth->fetchrow_hashref) {
$content .= "#" . $result->{id} . " - ". $result->{summary} . "\n";
}
# If the there is at least one ticket...
if ($content) {
# ... then we construct the message to be sent to owner:
$content = "All active tickets for user $owner\n\n" . $content;
# ... and attemt to send the email
open(MAIL, "|mail $email -s 'All active tickets for user $owner'") or
die "Cannot open mail: $!";
binmode MAIL, ":utf8";
print MAIL $content;
close(MAIL);
}
$sth->finish;
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[Trac] Re: Trac VS Bugzilla
On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 13:32 +0400, Иван Бессарабов wrote: > > > The things you are writing can be easily coded, but I'm not the person > who will do this task for you =) I was not hinting that you should do it. I was more thinking aloud - but in writing. I am happy to extend this myself. I was happy with the info you provided that got me started. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Trac Users" group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to trac-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: Trac VS Bugzilla
2009/7/2 Иван Бессарабов : > Yes, I'm also using serveal tracs for big projects and one trac for tiny > projects. But this is not very good solution - sometimes the small project gets bigger and it should be moved to the new trac. Exactly . trac shall be configured for single project. Its power is simplicity. -- Tomek Grzechowski - mini...@k3o; developer/programmer; http://k3o.eu miniman@gmail.com; +48 662 279 869 (cell) skype: miniman.k3o --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Trac Users" group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to trac-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: Trac VS Bugzilla
Yes, I'm also using serveal tracs for big projects and one trac for tiny projects. But this is not very good solution - sometimes the small project gets bigger and it should be moved to the new trac. 2009/7/2 Tomek Grzechowski [k3o] > > 2009/7/2 Иван Бессарабов : > > > > Are you using different trac for every project or you are using one trac > for > > all your projects? > > > > 2009/7/2 Óscar Palacios > >> > >> > >> We now use the svn-trac combo for every project. > > > > -- > > bessarabov > > Dont know bessarabov, but we use different trac for every project. > > I think they do same. It is more clear/clean. > > Of course depends on project size. > > -- > Tomek Grzechowski > - > mini...@k3o; developer/programmer; http://k3o.eu > miniman@gmail.com; +48 662 279 869 (cell) > skype: miniman.k3o > > > > -- bessarabov --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Trac Users" group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to trac-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: Trac VS Bugzilla
2009/7/2 Иван Бессарабов : > > Are you using different trac for every project or you are using one trac for > all your projects? > > 2009/7/2 Óscar Palacios >> >> >> We now use the svn-trac combo for every project. > > -- > bessarabov Dont know bessarabov, but we use different trac for every project. I think they do same. It is more clear/clean. Of course depends on project size. -- Tomek Grzechowski - mini...@k3o; developer/programmer; http://k3o.eu miniman@gmail.com; +48 662 279 869 (cell) skype: miniman.k3o --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Trac Users" group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to trac-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: Trac VS Bugzilla
The things you are writing can be easily coded, but I'm not the person who will do this task for you =) Maybe the best way of solving your case is to find the programmer who will do such a thing (actually the task is very simple) 2009/7/2 Roger Oberholtzer > > On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 10:42 +0400, Иван Бессарабов wrote: > > I've had a task - every morning I needed to send list of task to the > > owners of that tikets. > > > > I've written the small script in perl language. The script is > > avaliable in my blog, but the blog is in russian language > > http://blog.bessarabov.ru/2008/07/23/send-active-trac-tickets-to-mail/ > > Interesting. What I would like is to send a message to a ticket owner if > the ticket is in a certain status for a certain amount of time. So I > would need to get these things from the ticket: > >owner >owner's e-mail address >current ticket status >when the status was set to this >last time the owner modified the ticket > > based on that, perhaps I could do something similar to your script. I > guess the main thing is to make the SQL query. I bet there is > documentation on how one gets these things. > > > > > > -- bessarabov --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Trac Users" group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to trac-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: Trac VS Bugzilla
On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 10:42 +0400, Иван Бессарабов wrote: > I've had a task - every morning I needed to send list of task to the > owners of that tikets. > > I've written the small script in perl language. The script is > avaliable in my blog, but the blog is in russian language > http://blog.bessarabov.ru/2008/07/23/send-active-trac-tickets-to-mail/ Interesting. What I would like is to send a message to a ticket owner if the ticket is in a certain status for a certain amount of time. So I would need to get these things from the ticket: owner owner's e-mail address current ticket status when the status was set to this last time the owner modified the ticket based on that, perhaps I could do something similar to your script. I guess the main thing is to make the SQL query. I bet there is documentation on how one gets these things. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Trac Users" group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to trac-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: Trac VS Bugzilla
Are you using different trac for every project or you are using one trac for all your projects? 2009/7/2 Óscar Palacios > > > We now use the svn-trac combo for every project. > -- bessarabov --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Trac Users" group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to trac-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: Trac VS Bugzilla
I worked with bugzilla for some time and loved it. We used subversion and bugzilla. I remember the excitement we felt at subversion being the right answer to a bunch of coordination issues. But when we realized trac was also a subversion repository web interface (plus a wiki), we switched. We now use the svn-trac combo for every project. Óscar Palacios Mexico City normalAnomaly wrote: > Hello. > > I am considering using Trac as an issue and bug tracking system. I've never > used it before, however I do have some experience with Bugzilla. > > Can anyone give me a general overview of pros / cons of using Trac for bug > tracking over Bugzilla? > > Thanks! > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Trac Users" group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to trac-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: Trac VS Bugzilla
I've had a task - every morning I needed to send list of task to the owners of that tikets. I've written the small script in perl language. The script is avaliable in my blog, but the blog is in russian language http://blog.bessarabov.ru/2008/07/23/send-active-trac-tickets-to-mail/ I've placed that script into the crontab. Feel free to contact me on any questions about this script. 2009/7/2 Roger Oberholtzer > > I would say that the main thing bugzilla has that I miss in trac is the > cron ability. It checks for things that have not been dealt with and > sends a message to the concerned party until they do something. Maybe > there is a plugin I have missed? > -- bessarabov --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Trac Users" group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to trac-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: Trac VS Bugzilla
On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 12:28 -0700, yoheeb wrote: > On Jun 30, 8:11 am, normalAnomaly wrote: > > Hello. > > > > I am considering using Trac as an issue and bug tracking system. I've never > > used it before, however I do have some experience with Bugzilla. > > > > Can anyone give me a general overview of pros / cons of using Trac for bug > > tracking over Bugzilla? > > > > Thanks! > > -- > > View this message in > > context:http://www.nabble.com/Trac-VS-Bugzilla-tp24271628p24271628.html > > Sent from the Trac Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. I would say that the main thing bugzilla has that I miss in trac is the cron ability. It checks for things that have not been dealt with and sends a message to the concerned party until they do something. Maybe there is a plugin I have missed? Still, we run both trac and bugzilla. We use trac for any change to our product (software and hardware). We use bugzilla for problem reports. Bugzilla is meant to be external, and does not always involve a change in our product. If the bugzilla work decides a change is needed, it is sent to trac. "On TRAC" is a bugzilla state for us. One main reason for this is that we want to treat these two activities separately. Also, we use bugzilla with people who are external to our organization. So, the cron reminders are nice. And, the software development discussions in trac are not always something we want generally seen. Proprietary info and all that. We have invested much more time in trac. So, we may set up the stuff in bugzilla as a new trac project, and then do all in trac. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Trac Users" group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to trac-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Trac] Re: Trac VS Bugzilla
On Jun 30, 8:11 am, normalAnomaly wrote: > Hello. > > I am considering using Trac as an issue and bug tracking system. I've never > used it before, however I do have some experience with Bugzilla. > > Can anyone give me a general overview of pros / cons of using Trac for bug > tracking over Bugzilla? > > Thanks! > -- > View this message in > context:http://www.nabble.com/Trac-VS-Bugzilla-tp24271628p24271628.html > Sent from the Trac Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. for lack of a better summary, comparatively, bugzilla sucks. But that is truly an opinion. I have found trac significantly more capable, more flexible, and easier to tweak. However, I never have liked bugzilla, so I am biased. The customizable work flow, combined with the typedTicketWorkflow plugin, just allow me to do things I counld never make happen in bugzilla. combined with other little things, like ticketValidator plugin, etc. Not to mention the powerful wiki. The flip side, bugzilla has been around a long time, and has a few things out there Trac might not. I have no idea what bugzilla is actually built upon, but Trac was built upon a very well planned and executed architecture, which sits upon the best language out there for ease and flexibility of these sorts of things. Again, pure opinion. I also have found the community superior, not quite sure why that one is, I could be an anomaly on that one, I just didn't get much help from the bugzilla community in my limited attempts. Not enough data to state that as a definitive. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Trac Users" group. To post to this group, send email to trac-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to trac-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
