Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel 6

2013-02-28 Thread chris
:( I think I missed it.  Or maybe that was the meeting I was partly there  
for.




Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel 6

2013-02-28 Thread jason

Chris, check out the lastest developer meeting. :)


Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel 6

2013-02-28 Thread chris
:) Maybe I misread something although I thought it was suppose to happen last  
Friday? Putting out a date seems unwise when Rubén has said "it'll be ready  
when its ready" (or something like that).




Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6 missed another deadline. Is this project dead?

2013-02-28 Thread chris
I didn't mean to imply you were blaming Ruben. I meant to suggest that there  
are valid criticisms although the ones presented sounded like they were more  
down to bad choices or the lack of understanding on how things work. People  
get use to doing things a particular way and end up having trouble because  
they don't know the “right” way to work with something when they switch  
systems. Then when problems occur they attribute it to the wrong  
places/people/etc.


But humorously there are a lot of real bugs. I'm just doubtful of at least  
some of the ones you mentioned because I know from experience whats solved  
some (maybe all?) of them for customers I've dealt with. Of course each  
system / person is different so I can't say for sure. You would have to try  
some of the suggestions to verify my educated (?) guesses. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Source access

2013-02-28 Thread overbackup4

It depends how you interpret "but hasn't made the source code available" .

Usually source code is available live-on-the-web or ftp and this is  
preferred, so people can download and examine it with no waiting.


It is not a requirement of the GPL that source code be live, only obtainable.

This means 'available on request'.

If the author refuses a request to send a copy of the complete source code  
that is under the free licence or they are uncontactable, the program is no  
longer considered to be Free Software.



This paragraph is from the wikipedia GPL page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_GPL#Copyleft


Many distributors of GPL'ed programs bundle the source code with the  
executables. An alternative method of satisfying the copyleft is to provide a  
written offer to provide the source code on a physical medium (such as a CD)  
upon request. In practice, many GPL'ed programs are distributed over the  
Internet, and the source code is made available over FTP or HTTP. For  
Internet distribution, this complies with the license.


[Trisquel-users] Re : Source access

2013-02-28 Thread magicbanana
Have you ever tried to decompile a large binary? If you manage to understand  
a line of the results, you can consider you happy. Access to the source code  
is a precondition to an effective freedom to study/modify a program.


[Trisquel-users] Re : Source access

2013-02-28 Thread magicbanana
Have you ever tried to decompile a large binary? If you manage to understand  
a line of the result, you can consider you happy. Access to the source code  
is a precondition to an effective freedom to study/modify a program.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Source access

2013-02-28 Thread viniciussm
Like I said, you will not look at the original code when you decompile. See  
http://stackoverflow.com/a/14266904


And there's a difference between the source code being available or  
undisclosed.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Source access

2013-02-28 Thread em9002
Think about it like this: wouldn't you rather have access to the original  
source code, than having to decompile it?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Fonts & Font rendering

2013-02-28 Thread icarolongo

Or "Advanced Settings" in System Settings by default on Trisquel.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Source access

2013-02-28 Thread ejectmail

It wouldn't be illegal if the program is under a free license.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Source access

2013-02-28 Thread ejectmail
But I can always decompile it to get the source, so in a way you always have  
access to the source code.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Source access

2013-02-28 Thread viniciussm
Decompiling does not produce the original logic. You can disassemble a binary  
software with good results, but you can't decompile something to a higher  
level language. You will always lose original information, and this practice  
is almost always illegal.


[Trisquel-users] Re : Trisquel 6 missed another deadline. Is this project dead?

2013-02-28 Thread ben

Interesting article here:

http://www.iloveubuntu.net/canonicals-vice-president-engineering-rick-spencer-officially-proposes-adoption-rolling-release

In short, Ubuntu may replace all STS releases by a single rolling release.   
LTS releases every two years would still exist.


Keep in mind that this is only a proposal at this point.  But the  
implications for the Trisquel project would be interesting to ponder.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Source access

2013-02-28 Thread viniciussm
/* A program is free software if the program's users have the four essential  
freedoms:


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* The freedom to study how the program works, and change it so it does your  
computing as you wish (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a  
precondition for this.


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*/

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html


[Trisquel-users] Source access

2013-02-28 Thread ejectmail
A program's author has released it under a permissive free license, but  
hasn't made the source code available. Does this mean it isn't free software?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Difficulty compiling from source

2013-02-28 Thread ejectmail

Forget it. I've installed Thunderbird via Add/Remove Applications.


Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel 6

2013-02-28 Thread c106514

Thats good news. Thanks!


Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel 6

2013-02-28 Thread Jason Self
> When will it be official released & show up in the download page?

That is supposed to happen on Friday March 1 or Saturday March 2 
depending on what time zone you're in when it happens.


Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel 6

2013-02-28 Thread c106514

When will it be official released & show up in the download page?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Fonts & Font rendering

2013-02-28 Thread tegskywalker
For those that are unaware, icarolongo is using Gnome Tweak Tool:  
http://packages.trisquel.info/toutatis/gnome-tweak-tool


Re: [Trisquel-users] Fonts & Font rendering

2013-02-28 Thread icarolongo

I changed for GNOME 3 default configuration.


Re: [Trisquel-users] I have no sound

2013-02-28 Thread pascal

it's not enough, it's still not working


Re: [Trisquel-users] Hibernate disabled by default on Trisquel 6

2013-02-28 Thread mikko . viinamaki
Apparently any data loss only happens if the machine does not wake up, so  
it's very easy to test whether hibernate can be enabled.


Silly ubuntu...


Re: [Trisquel-users] Cannot install any software

2013-02-28 Thread sabertorque
i have the same predicament and i can attest to what your feeling now. on my  
part, i have a printer that as a dual purpose as it's also a scanner. the  
issue arises when i change my OS and the OS is not supported by the  
installation disk. i did called the service center of the printer which also  
serve for their scanner. i was only told to downgrade or installed my  
previous OS if i want to work it out again. i really feel i'm cheated. they  
should not tell me what OS to use but let their software installation adopt  
to new hardware or systems.


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