[Trisquel-users] The tale of Miguel de Icaza and the Mac

2013-04-13 Thread matt . ivie
I just finished reading this:  
http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2013/Mar-05.html


I couldn't find a thread here that discussed this, but maybe there is one. I  
tend to think that a lot of the reason the GNU/Linux desktop hasn't crossed  
the desktop chasm is hardware. Miguel sites in his blog that he has had  
hardware problems that were frustrating. I think this is a big problem too.  
Hardware is one of the areas that we can't just write a new program real  
easily to fix. Graphics cards are a great example. Printers, wifi and other  
things are challenging too.


He also sites packages and compatibility. I see that as a problem as well but  
that can be addressed per distro. This illustrates that the cause really  
should be freedom and not convenience, though convenience should be a goal as  
well.



Interestingly enough, Miquel de Icaza posted a response on this blog:
http://threads2.scripting.com/2013/march/whyWindowsLostToMac

I personally think it would be great to see hardware companies spring up that  
are 100% in support of free software. Companies that manufacture hardware  
components. I know Think Penguin exists and I'm really glad they do but lack  
of supported modern hardware is a challenge for many users.


Re: [Trisquel-users] The tale of Miguel de Icaza and the Mac

2013-04-13 Thread krofnica996
Printers are never a problem if you buy from right company. HP Linux driver  
is fully free. http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/index.html


Now back on topic. Problem is not that you cannot find good free driver for  
any graphic card out there, infact, most of the people do not care about  
freedom: They care about utility. Ubuntu is great example. With nonfree  
firmware, drivers and software like steam in Software Center Ubuntu started  
showing some utility (and rapidly gaining popularity).


The real reasons why GNU/Linux hasn't crossed the desktop chasm can really  
be fixed by writing programs. Here are few problems I encountered trying to  
promote GNU/Linux:


1) Lack of specialized software: While I was able to offer wide range of  
software to an artist (gimp, inkscape, scribus, blender...) I couldn't offer  
anything to civil engineer. Sure, there is FreeCAD but due to stubbornness of  
rms it doesn't load DWG files. Read:

http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/libredwg-drama-the-end-or-the-new-beginning
and:
http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/whats-up-with-dwg-adoption-in-free-software

2) Shockwave Flash. Gnash looked promising, but development is stalled. It  
can play youtube videos which aren't avaliable on html5, but won't stream  
some other sites. (Notably, it won't stream any anime)


3) Bugs. I noticed interesting phenomenon: Average end user is MUCH MORE  
capable of finding bugs than programmer or superuser. While I am generally  
not affected by bugs, those on whose computers I installed GNU/Linux on are.  
I feel like tech support :/


4) Fragmentation. Why is there qcad and freecad? Why is there gnash and  
lightspark? Why are there totem and vlc? Side effect of this is: Lightspark  
plays avm2, gnash doesn't. However, lightspark can't play some stuff gnash  
plays so you end up installing both. It gets more ridicilous: vlc streams  
rtmp, totem doesnt. totem streams mms, vlc doesn't.
Oh and not to mention all the effort wasted on features offered by both  
options.


Re: [Trisquel-users] HDMI audio output not working.

2013-04-13 Thread gustavo_cm
Before kernels from non-official sources, one could try Linux-libre 3.5 by  
installing the package linux-generic-lts-belenos (and rebooting the  
computer).


Re: [Trisquel-users] The tale of Miguel de Icaza and the Mac

2013-04-13 Thread icarolongo
IMHO is strange like many free software supporters for years (10 years or  
more) buy bad computers today. If you live in the US why not buy in  
ThinkPenguin? If I want do buy one I need to pay shipping and 60% of tax... I  
need to pay two laptops and receive one ;-)


Is the better company sell x86 computers compatible with 100% free software.  
Any distro can run (100% free or not).


Is very common you see in GNOME Planet, KDE Planet and many blogs about the  
big frustation about the new laptop with Windows 7 or Windows 8 (paying for  
Microsoft for after remove this for install Fedora, Ubuntu, OpenSuse,  
Mint...) of Dell, Lenovo, Apple, HP, Acer, Asus (with Intel Centrino,  
Broadcom, NVIDIA, AMD Randeon...)


Re: [Trisquel-users] The tale of Miguel de Icaza and the Mac

2013-04-13 Thread icarolongo

Some projects made with Blender and FreeCAD: http://yorik.uncreated.net/


Re: [Trisquel-users] On the conversion of a Macbook Pro

2013-04-13 Thread atilio . baroni
Took a look around and I think I understand the difference better now, and  
there's really no reason not to go for 64bits.


While researching for a solution to the wireless firmware I stumbled upon the  
broadcom open source drivers, that then proceed to install proprietary  
firmware. It's amazing the lenghts they'll go to make things around this  
issue as murky as possible.


Re: [Trisquel-users] The tale of Miguel de Icaza and the Mac

2013-04-13 Thread krofnica996

Are Blender and FreeCAD cool? Yup.
Can they import dwg? Nop.

Without complete dwg support they aren't usefull, especially to students  
since every school in my country uses AutoCAD.


Re: [Trisquel-users] The tale of Miguel de Icaza and the Mac

2013-04-13 Thread krofnica996
Big question is why do they buy laptop with Windows regardless of vendor if  
they don't want Windows. I never understood that :/ Asus offers No-OS  
laptops. As a bonus, its cheaper!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Thoughts on the GFDL

2013-04-13 Thread ejectmail
Let's focus on the common BY-SA for consistency. That can't be the intended  
meaning, because the license already has, in clause 4b:


(I) You must include a copy of, or the URI for, the Applicable License with  
every copy of each Adaptation You Distribute or Publicly Perform;


(III) You must keep intact all notices that refer to the Applicable License  
and to the disclaimer of warranties with every copy of the Work as included  
in the Adaptation You Distribute or Publicly Perform.


So clause 4d is essentially saying, You must not...take...[any] action in  
relation to the Work which would be prejudicial to the Original Author's  
honor or reputation. Which would make things like satire, parody,  
modification for the worse, transformation into modern art, and possibly mere  
destruction illegal. If the American flag were under a CC license, burning it  
in protest would be illegal, since that could reasonably be construed as  
mutilat[ing] it in a way detrimental to the nation's reputation. The only  
way around those restrictions would be to get the section waived (the license  
allows this if any modification is considered mutilation in your country),  
but not all of us can move to Japan.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Thoughts on the GFDL

2013-04-13 Thread onpon4
I'm no lawyer, but that's not how I'm interpreting that. I'm interpreting it  
as don't pretend that dick you drew on the painting was from the original  
author.


Re: [Trisquel-users] On the conversion of a Macbook Pro

2013-04-13 Thread mattij . lammi

Hi,

Have you heard about www.h-node.org ? Its a hardware database which aims to  
collect information about how well various devices like laptops, graphic  
cards and wifi cards work with free software. You can use it to find  
compatible hardware in the future. You can also contribute to it by reporting  
your hardware to it. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Thoughts on the GFDL

2013-04-13 Thread ejectmail
Already covered by clause 3b: provided that any such Adaptation, including  
any translation in any medium, takes reasonable steps to clearly label,  
demarcate or otherwise identify that changes were made to the original Work.


Re: [Trisquel-users] HDMI audio output not working.

2013-04-13 Thread mattij . lammi
You could also check whether your sound card is compatible with free  
software. Take a peek at www.h-node.org.


H-node a hardware database which aims to collect information about how well  
various devices like laptops, graphic cards and wifi cards work with free  
software. You can use it to find compatible hardware in the future. You can  
also contribute by reporting your hardware to it.


If you manage to get your sound card working, please check if the card is  
reported as compatible or not and update the device entry if necessary with  
all the details about how did you managed to get it to work. 


[Trisquel-users] Re : free-software compatible laptop

2013-04-13 Thread magicbanana

You had better directly contact Chris. He is the CEO of ThinkPenguin. ;-)


[Trisquel-users] graphics mode while booting

2013-04-13 Thread mono

how can i change the graphics mode for the boot process?
am using the libre-linux kernel from jxself's repository and it used to show  
me a penguin mascot while booting. at some point the graphics mode must have  
changed, i can't say when that was, but now i see some garbage pixels during  
boot. later it changes to the correct graphics mode showing the boot messages  
and login correctly.


Any idea on how it can show the Freedo mascot again?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Thoughts on the GFDL

2013-04-13 Thread mampir
You should contact Creative Commons and FSF Licensing  Compliance Team, then  
report back.


Re: [Trisquel-users] free-software compatible laptop

2013-04-13 Thread migatheotaku
Agreed. Chris is pretty good at responding at questions/comments and posts  
here a lot. He's pretty friendly too, from what I saw.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Thoughts on the GFDL

2013-04-13 Thread mikko . viinamaki

Interesting

...but baffling! o_O


Re: [Trisquel-users] graphics mode while booting

2013-04-13 Thread mikko . viinamaki
Have you changed the reso in grub config? Remember to update-grub afterwards  
if you do.


Re: [Trisquel-users] free-software compatible laptop

2013-04-13 Thread adel . afzal

Thanks guys, I will send Chris a message.


Re: [Trisquel-users] On the conversion of a Macbook Pro

2013-04-13 Thread joseph . e . dickson

If brightness keys don't work by default try adding

# sudo apt-get install xbacklight

then you can manually set your hot keys to raise and lower the brightness.
http://linux.die.net/man/1/xbacklight


Re: [Trisquel-users] free-software compatible laptop

2013-04-13 Thread chris
There was going to be a higher resolution model back in September... it  
didn't happen.


It's still not off the table although we need to get the demand up to do it.  
I hope we can fix the resource issue although almost everything is on hold  
until our new web site is rolled out. That has been delayed time and time  
again due to difficulties in developing the underlying code (the site is  
based on Drupal, a content management system, and an e-commerce module called  
Ubercart, however we are moving to Commerce, and implementing many new  
features for it), license issues with third parties, and more.