Re: [Trisquel-users] How can I remove icons from the task bar?
Super+Alt+Right-Click on them.
Re: [Trisquel-users] How can I remove icons from the task bar?
That's called panel.
[Trisquel-users] Meet Free Software supporters in Sofia
Hello, I am a Free software activist and developer and founder of a Romanian foundation for Free Software and Free Culture. Also, I am (and my foundation is) a Trisquel user. http://ceata.org I just arrived in Sofia for a big conference called OpenFest and I am leaving back to Bucharest on Monday evening. http://openfest.org I would very much like to meet Bulgarian Free Software supporters (I meet a lot of "Open Source" guys here anyway). If you see this message and you are living in Sofia, please drop me a private e-mail so we can meet. I also have a local phone number I can send you to ease our communication. Today and on Monday I am staying in the hackerspace called InitLab. This evening I will be at Don Domat (Veslets & Triaditsa str.) for a Mozilla meet-up. Tomorrow and on Sunday I'll be at the conference. http://initlab.org https://reps.mozilla.org/e/mozcoffee-sofia/ On Sunday I will give the first talk about Firefox OS - how does it work, what proprietary software is included and how we can work to replace it. The second talk will be about the Romanian foundation called Fundația Ceata and its vision for Romania and Moldova. http://openfest.org/schedule/ https://reps.mozilla.org/e/openfest-2013/ http://ceata.org/evenimente/ceata-la-openfest-2013.html Hope to hear from you, -- Tiberiu C. Turbureanu Președinte, Fundația Ceata Telefon: +40-761-810-100 GPG: 8B51 53CB 354E 3049 FAE9 3260 F033 8452 4154 1967 Susții libertatea artelor și tehnologiilor? Înscrie-te ca membru! (http://ceata.org/%C3%AEnscrieri)
Re: [Trisquel-users] True N900 successor introduction - Neo900 - Openmoko
Let me see if I understand; The neo900 is not more freedom friendly that the "neofreerunner" because the wifi, GSM modem are not avaliable if you do not use proprietary software, so the freerunner is still the most freedom friendly smartphone in existence. Am I correct?
Re: [Trisquel-users] New Wallpapers
so the best license for trisquel artworks/wallpapers seems to be CC BY SA 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/ but what about the .deb packages itself is it okey tu publish it under the GPL? The source code of a picture is the RAW-file or the unedited jpg-file so it could also be theoretically published under GPL?
Re: [Trisquel-users] New Wallpapers
why? there are a lot of GPL software-pieces in trisquel now!
Re: [Trisquel-users] New Wallpapers
GPL does not restrict commercial activity in any way.
Re: [Trisquel-users] [OT] Mobile telephony survey
From the section "funding" of "The Interphone Study" web page: "The UICC received funds for this purpose from the Mobile Manufacturers Forum (MMF) and Groupe Speciale Mobile Association (GSMA)." --- http://interphone.iarc.fr/interphone_funding.php (You can read the rest of the web page, for the conclusions of such "study"...) The bottom line is... If you research about this, on the Internet, you'll find both studies (and news reports about them) that say there's nothing to worry about, and studies that say there is. And, at least this one is known to have been funded by the wireless industry. So, as I said, (and, that's what I meant by) "I'll let everyone look for, and choose to believe in, the studies they want to"... Concerning the rest, that you said... The media organizations that I say that are credible, have proven themselves to be so, before me, when I repeatedly *checked* what they were saying, and (contrary to the mainstream ones, were that would happen, *a lot*) I didn't caught them lying. I don't necessarily have to agree with /everything/ that a person /believes/ in, in order to consider him/her credible. And, I'm intelligent enough to be able to separate what is clearly a personal opinion being expressed, from the facts that are being denounced. (90% of the people on this planet, even, believe in invisible entities, they call "gods" - without any evidence, whatsoever, to suggest that - for example. And, I don't reject /everything/ that they say, because of that...) And, mentioning only two (important) subjects, that you think Mike Adams is not credible about, I have this one example - http://www.naturalnews.com/036255_mmr_autism_court_case.html - out of many, and also this documentary - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqsT5EoIk8U - for example, made by medical doctors. The "peer review" system of all the major scientific publications is a joke. Because, as with almost everything that is big, it has already been corrupted, or was already made corrupt (from the start, by the people with money, who created them), by the big economic interests. And, the best example of that, is the "Climategate" scandal, on which it was shown that the "scientific data" being published by all the major scientific organizations was being manipulated, on purpose. (http://climateaudit.org/2009/11/20/mike%E2%80%99s-nature-trick/ + http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/6679082/Climate-change-this-is-the-worst-scientific-scandal-of-our-generation.html) (Again, it's very important to always *check* the information that others choose to deliver us: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuj_tlRRQdQ) As for "The Guardian", and other well-known mainstream publications, that I also used to read, they're also controlled by the big economic interests (https://id.theguardian.com/profile/ptanarchist/public), who have, among other things, an interest in the commercialization of this type of products. And, many of the supposedly "alternative" media organizations, like "Democracy Now!" and such, are also funded by these same interests (https://web.archive.org/web/20110721004258/http://www.questionsquestions.net/gatekeepers.html). So, as I said... You decide who you want to believe in... Or, better yet... Do like I do, and *check* everything (of important) that you're told about. And, this way, you'll be able to differentiate the honest publications, from the ones who (repeatedly) lie. Compare what the mainstream publications say to what the alternative media says, and make your own judgement. And, notice also the very important fact that, the alternative ones usually present their sources, for everyone to check what is being said, while the mainstream ones usually don't, and just expect everyone to believe them, out of a very naïve faith in them.
Re: [Trisquel-users] [OT] Mobile telephony survey
("Don't just trust every binary program that is given to you. Try checking their sources codes, once in a while...")
Re: [Trisquel-users] Cisco offering a FLOSS H.264 codec
Sorry, but unless the patents are licensed to everybody, royalty-free, or until the patents expire, no free software codec can possibly not violate them, and developing a new one just won't help. This new codec is either basically proprietary or definitely a patent violation, depending on what you download. It's not even legal to obtain that source code if these patents exist in your country, so even just checking the source code and trusting that the binary is the same would be a patent violation. There is no solution to software idea patents except abolishing them, unfortunately.
Re: [Trisquel-users] [OT] Mobile telephony survey
And, still... Concerning a scientific falsehood, that I mentioned (and that, still today, continues to be propagated), this is another good example of a group of people who actually *checked* what they were being told, and that found it to be untrue - and, also a very good example of how much the scientific establishment (in league with the big corporations - that own the major media organizations - and their puppet governments) can simply, and outrageously, *lie*... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPrGK5fZwM0
[Trisquel-users] Linterna Mágica chat rooms
Dear Trisquel community, I've been away from the list/form for a while, because I've been busy and the list became very high-traffic for me. Now that I'm back I have news. I know that some (most?) users of Linterna Mágica read the forum/list, so I hope this announcement is not off-topic. I am happy to announce that there are two official chat rooms for Linterna Mágica in addition to the mailing list (linterna-magica-users at nongnu dot org). Jabber: linternamag...@conference.jabber.org IRC: #linternamagica on irc.freenode.net There is a bot that relays messages between the rooms - lm-jabber2irc My nick is Dreamer in linternamag...@conference.jabber.org, and thedreamer in #linternamagica. Hopefully I'll have more news about Linterna Mágica soon. The rest is still cooking. :) Regards signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Trisquel-users] What exactly is the installation procedure for installing 32-bit compatibility libraries?
This user has solved his problem by booting 32 bit Trisquel. Our work here is done.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Cisco offering a FLOSS H.264 codec
Wanted to share http://xiphmont.livejournal.com/61927.html
Re: [Trisquel-users] True N900 successor introduction - Neo900 - Openmoko
No. Everything running on main CPU will be free (except 3D drivers for GPU - but you don't have to use them - distros like SHR or QtMoko work smoothly on GTA04 without any closed blob). Neo900 comes from OpenPhoenux community, which is the continuation of ideas behind Openmoko - and even the idea for Neo900 is from one of the ex-engineers from Openmoko Inc. The GSM firmware (something that runs *inside* the modem) won't be open, because there is no open GSM modem, anywhere. The closest to being open is TI Calypso, but it supports only 56k-modem like GPRS speed, and operating any open firmware like OsmocomBB on public networks is illegal (and OsmocomBB is very incompete anyway) If we would want to provide free GSM module, we wouldn't have asked for 25k EUR, but rather for something like 2500k EUR. (well, of course we would like to provide it - but it's unfortunately impossible given our resources and public interest) Free GSM middleware like freesmartphone.org should be working well with Neo900. Duh, I'm even the one who is commited to ensure that FSO will work there. WiFi firmware may be closed or not. It depends on availability of the chipsets. Of course if some acceptable choice with free firmware will be available, it will be chosen (but it's still just a firmware - initialisation data loaded to the chipset, it doesn't run on CPU) Neo900 is the modified GTA04, which is an upgrade for Neo Freerunner. Those three (well, four, if you count Neo1973 too) are (or will be) the most freedom friendly smartphones in the world.
Re: [Trisquel-users] [OT] Mobile telephony survey
It's not hate. It's, most probably, a disruption tactic - used to try to divert people from what is being said, in order to sabotage discussions that are counter to the interests of the establishment. I'm used to this kind of "ad hominem" attacks, provocations, and also unbased attempts to discredit me (and, even mysterious deletions of posts of mine) whenever I make particularly important revelations... Don't let yourselves be distracted from something very important, that I said above: "even if you use Replicant on one of them, you most probably can still be listened to (...) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G1fNjK9SXg"; Concerning such entity, who said that... Inform yourselves about the meaning of his nickname. And, ask yourselves who does he come here to do that to. (You all?) Also, take into account this revelation - http://www.prisonplanet.com/lulzsecs-fbi-informant-leader-hinted-at-cia-connection.html - and, also this one - http://www.danielestulin.com/2012/02/01/el-papel-de-anonymous/ - and, knowing that, read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO And, concerning what was said... I'm immensely in favour of Freedom of Speech. But, "freedom of speech", to me, doesn't include personal insults. And, if I was responsible for this forum, I would have deleted that and also other post that contain them.
[Trisquel-users] [OT] TPP and free software
This doesn't look good for free software: http://imgur.com/gallery/Ezz2G
Re: [Trisquel-users] True N900 successor introduction - Neo900 - Openmoko
Thanks a lot for the explanation, I needed this.
Re: [Trisquel-users] DNS Leak
Nevermind my above post.. i ask too many questions..! :) But i think i have the wrong version of gufw. My version looks like this: [IMG]http://imageshack.us/a/img21/9837/g6cl.jpg[/IMG] my version is:9.10.2 But i cannot deny all outgoing traffic by default, only incomming, In this thread, he must have a newer version, because he have both the incomming and outgoing button: https://airvpn.org/topic/5586-prevent-leaks-with-linux-firestarter-also-stop-traffic-when-vpn-drops/#entry5642 Seems like that feature is missing... So does it even matter, or what can i do? If i want a newer version of GUFW i need to install a weezy package, but im using squeeze.. what can i do if i want to set it up, just like in the post? Thanks alot for your time guys, and sorry for all the text!!
Re: [Trisquel-users] True N900 successor introduction - Neo900 - Openmoko
I'm the guy who emailed you and inspired this post. >The closest to being open is TI Calypso, but it supports only >56k-modem like GPRS speed, and operating any open firmware like >OsmocomBB on public networks is illegal (and OsmocomBB is very >incompete anyway) Really? Why is this illegal? Is this only in the U.S. or internationally? That really stinks if free software has been made illegal.
Re: [Trisquel-users] True N900 successor introduction - Neo900 - Openmoko
It's not really the matter of free software, it's the matter of trying to execute your freedoms that licenses like GPL want to protect. To use a GSM/UMTS/LTE/etc. baseband device on public network, without special permissions, it has to be certified. This certification happens on hardware+software combo - so if you change anything in software of your certified modem, the certification is automatically revoked and you're not allowed to legally use such device on public networks anymore until you get it certified again. It's not US specific, in Europe it's very similar, if not the same. Even if we could build such modem by ourselves (but most likely we couldn't - it's very hard to get it right, much harder than building the whole smartphone with ready GSM module), all we could do to make it "free" would be to release the sources used to build a blob you would get with the device. That's not enough to call it fully, legally free in my book. Of course there are also some illegal projects - you may want to browse Openmoko mailling lists for "FreeCalypso" project, which is illegally using leaked sources for Calypso firmware to build free modem that is fully functional as a phone (OsmocomBB is not, and they don't even aim at it - it's mostly research project) BTW, you might be interested in this interesting conversation that happened few hours ago on #qi-hardware channel: http://en.qi-hardware.com/irclogs/qi-hardware_2013-11-01.log.html DocScrutinizer05 is the author of the Neo900 idea - he's that ex-Openmoko engineer I mentioned earlier.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Substitute fonts
Are you sure Aroania is really free? I don't see the source file anywhere on the page. http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d/
Re: [Trisquel-users] True N900 successor introduction - Neo900 - Openmoko
> It's not really the matter of free software, it's the matter of > trying to execute your freedoms that licenses like GPL want to > protect. That's the definition of "free software", protecting one's freedoms. > all we could do to make it "free" would be to release the sources > used to build a blob you would get with the device. Really? You have no way to write firmware of your own? > Of course there are also some illegal projects I may oppose proprietary software, but I won't cross into the realm of crime to rid myself of it. I would really love to donate to free hardware/software projects like this. If I could, I'd give you enough to write all the blobs from scratch. But I don't have enough money.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Substitute fonts
Fonts are how software would be if decompiling were reliable. Fontforge can open .otf and .ttf files and treat them as source files. Essentially, source code is always shipped with a font. The exception is a few old CJK fonts for Windows, that didn't actually use outlines but only vague directions. But they were proprietary anyways.
Re: [Trisquel-users] [OT] Mobile telephony survey
The Bioinitiative Report has *not* been peer reviewed, thus failing an extremely important redundancy measure: >The BioInitiative Report is a report on the relationship between the electromagnetic fields (EMF) associated with powerlines and wireless devices and health. It was self-published online, without peer review, on 31 August 2007, by a group "of 14 scientists, researchers, and public health policy professionals". The BioInitiative Report states that it is an examination of the controversial health risks of electromagnetic fields and radiofrequency radiation.[1] Some updated BioInitiative material was published in a journal in an issue guest-edited by one of the members of the group,[2] and a 2012 version of the report was released on 7 January 2013.[3] *It has been heavily criticized by independent and governmental research groups for its lack of balance.* -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bioinitiative_Report Writing scientific papers without peer review and claiming that their assertions are correct is stupid at best and malicious at worst.
Re: [Trisquel-users] True N900 successor introduction - Neo900 - Openmoko
>That's the definition of "free software", protecting one's freedoms. Well, I think GPLv2 would work for such device. I mean, it would be possible to use GPLv2 for such firmware without breaking its rules, but certainly one's freedoms wouldn't be protected enough - it's like tivoisation. OTOH GPLv3 would actually require ability to replace the software, but that would mean all this ceritifaction hassle. >Really? You have no way to write firmware of your own? See that IRC log I provided: "in ST-E a team of ~500 worked for ~1 year to make the UMTS
[Trisquel-users] Re : New Wallpapers
The scripts in the DEB package can be distributed under the GPL.
Re: [Trisquel-users] [OT] Mobile telephony survey
Climategate? Really? Oh dear. The double standards in your beliefs are astounding. You claim that the method of peer review is a joke - which is an interesting if somewhat curious assertion - and then post a *youtube* video about vaccinations to help support your argument, as if that video is a bastion of scientific integrity and accuracy. Your hilariously hypocritical claim that the so-called climategate scandal showed "data manipulation" is nothing more than a smear by big oil companies to taint the well established scientific theory that humans are causing global warming at a rate unprecedented in the last 65 million years. Do you know how many climate scientists support the anthropogenic global heating theory? 97% (http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus). There are more climate scientists who attest to this theory than there are geologists who support the tectonic plate theory. The science is sound. But I will never be able to win this argument because you *know* you are correct, and no matter what the peer-reviewed scientific literature says, you will always remain skeptical. This begs the question: why are you not skeptical of the claims made by non-climate scientists who assert that anthropogenic warming is not occurring? Do you know who funds the majority of the so called "climate scientists" that push for global warming skepticism? Well, apart from big oil, a nice example is the Koch Brothers. They basically buy the politicians in the American Congress via campaign financing and lobbying, and surprise surprise, the congressmen are skeptical of global warming - not because of the science - but because they get big payouts every year from Koch funded thinktanks like the Heritage Foundation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_activities_of_the_Koch_brothers#Anthropogenic_global_warming_skepticism). But when there is a real, observable conspiracy involving big oil and powerful conservative businessmen, you see right through it. But when there is a non-controversy like "climategate", you somehow think that this is the biggest scandal in scientific history. Spare me. >As for "The Guardian", and other well-known mainstream publications, that I also used to read, they're also controlled by the big economic interests... Yes, I understand your concern. But again, the double standard is staggering - for example, the FSF is sponsored by Google, IBM and Oracle. Are we now to suppose that the FSF is a conspiracy? That the so called "free" distributions of GNU/Linux are really distributions of hidden Google and Oracle malware? Well, no, because the code is *peer reviewed*. Like science, there are built in redundancies in free software that ensure that any malicious functionality found within its code can be found, removed and modified. Why aren't you skeptical of the FSF? >And, notice also the very important fact that, the alternative ones usually present their sources, for everyone to check what is being said, while the mainstream ones usually don't, and just expect everyone to believe them, out of a very naïve faith in them. Again, if those sources are not reliable, then your so called "reliable" news-outlet is also unreliable (garbage in, garbage out). The way to make your own reliable interpretations is to look at the *data* itself - and not someone else's *interpretation*. Anyway, this thread is getting way off-track - I suggest a mod send it to the troll-hole.
Re: [Trisquel-users] [OT] Eben Moglen: Snowden and the Future
I love this guy. Very eloquent, very persuasive. Thank you based Eben
Re: [Trisquel-users] [OT] Charging for source code
I'd recommend doing it this way: charge a minimum price for the binary version of the program, say, 5 or 10 dollars - and then provide a link to the source code on an FTP server or github etc. That way, people will clearly see that they have the option to get the program for zero cost by manual compilation - but not everyone can be bothered, or is capable of compiling a program - so they'll say "screw it, it's easier if I just buy the program for 5 dollars".
Re: [Trisquel-users] [OT] Charging for source code
Are binaries allowed to be proprietary if the source code is free?
[Trisquel-users] Re : [OT] Charging for source code
It is evil (like any proprietary program) but yes, it is possible to encounter binaries under a proprietary license even if its source code (but does it really match?) is distributed under a free software license. The author can always do that. Someone who is not the author of the source code can do that as well if she received the code under the terms of a free software license.
Re: [Trisquel-users] True N900 successor introduction - Neo900 - Openmoko
Which CPU it rnus on doesn't really matter. It is software and should be free. I think it's been demonstrated that freedom and regulatory compliance can co-exist (reference ath5k, ath9k, etc.) Some of your arguments remind me of the ones that Intel made as to why their WiFi firmware had to be proprietary. Fortunately the SFLC has debunked them. * FCC Jurisdiction Does Not Extend to Independent Software Developers * FCC Rules for SDR Device Certification Only Affect Radio Equipment Manufacturers * FCC Rules Govern Equipment, Not Software * FCC Rules Contemplate FOSS SDR Development without Restricting It etc. http://www.softwarefreedom.org/resources/2007/fcc-sdr-whitepaper.html
Re: [Trisquel-users] [OT] Charging for source code
Quote from Magic Banana: > Someone who is not the author of the source code can do that as well if she > received the code under the terms of a free software license. I think you mean "permissive license", not "free software license".
Re: [Trisquel-users] [OT] Mobile telephony survey
As OP of this thread, I second this motion.
Re: [Trisquel-users] [OT] Charging for source code
On 02/11/13 13:09, darrenvenables wrote: > Are binaries allowed to be proprietary if the source code is free? Mozilla previously did this, i.e. they had a EULA on their binaries for end-users (breaking freedom zero). This is permitted by the MPL. Andrew.