Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel hangs and theming Q!

2013-11-05 Thread mikko . viinamaki

It's probably just too new. But it will be there.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel hangs and theming Q!

2013-11-05 Thread mikko . viinamaki

Yes.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Legal enforceability of licenses

2013-11-05 Thread mikko . viinamaki

I guess you could add it as MIT or BSD and explain in the text part.

My interpretation of said license is it's free. Anything goes.


[Trisquel-users] Problem with Bitmessage installation

2013-11-05 Thread 438963

I followed the installation guide on Bitmessage wiki.

https://bitmessage.org/wiki/Compiling_instructions

I typed this command in Terminal

git clone https://github.com/Bitmessage/PyBitmessage

But I got this error. Somehow the computer failed to install Bitmessage.

-
Cloning into 'PyBitmessage'...
git-remote-https: relocation error:  
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgnutls.so.26: symbol gcry_cipher_setkey, version  
GCRYPT_1.2 not defined in file libgcrypt.so.11 with link time reference

--

I have libgcrypt11 installed in Synaptic Package Manager. Its version is  
1.5.0-3ubuntu0.2.  I believe git is working fine.


Can anybody please help me?


Re: [Trisquel-users] 6.0.1 Ready For Testing

2013-11-05 Thread stevekilleen

Hi,

So what currently is the story with Trisquel 6.0.1?

Can one upgrade from 6.0?

Is there much difference between 6.0 and 6.0.1?

Cheers,
Steve


Re: [Trisquel-users] “badBIOS,” malware that jumps airgaps

2013-11-05 Thread stask
If ultrasonic is being used http://alumni.media.mit.edu/~wiz/ultracom.html  
gives some things to ponder.


This is an overview of what is known in general  
http://www.securityartwork.es/2013/10/30/badbios-2/?lang=en


Here is a current thread  
https://plus.google.com/app/basic/stream/z13tzhpzvpqyuzv1n23cz52wykrrvjjce  
some very interesting posts there. Newest at the bottom. Crazy weird.


Spyware swag  
http://www.latimes.com/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-russia-g20-summit-gifts-spy-devices-20131029,0,1499023.story


I don't know what to make of this kind of news or reality. It's sad news. Not  
my thing but it's hard to look away from the gore.




Re: [Trisquel-users] What are the things that Trisquel can do but Windows 7 can't?

2013-11-05 Thread nux
It has a full Office suite installed, usable on first boot. No need to go  
looking for one or worse, paying for MSOffice.


Re: [Trisquel-users] “badBIOS,” malware that jumps airgaps

2013-11-05 Thread stask
Yes, that is one article I came across as well. The author is too confident  
and is a lone voice at this point. I doubt there is 100% truth or lies to be  
found. There is a lot of uncomfortable stuff being revealed and some will  
pick at it with interest, others will dismiss it with disbelief. Whatever  
actually happened, continues to exist.


I never posted the link wanting anyone to worry. The WTF aspect was  
interesting. These types of articles affect what I think/see/know about  
computers and man, my views have been changing. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] What are the things that Trisquel can do but Windows 7 can't?

2013-11-05 Thread onpon4

You can use GNOME Shell.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Virtualization article in trisquel wiki

2013-11-05 Thread Sachin Dey

On 11/05/2013 03:30 AM, franpa...@openmailbox.org wrote:

That was exactly what I was looking for.

Thank you very much :-)


I am happy you liked it. I learned it during a free software workshop.

--
Sachin Dey


Re: [Trisquel-users] TOC formatting in Libreoffice

2013-11-05 Thread mikko . viinamaki

If you get no answers here, perhaps try

http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/questions/ (official)
http://en.libreofficeforum.org/forum/apps/writer (unofficial)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Substitute fonts

2013-11-05 Thread gramex

What does this say? I can't understand it. :-)



Re: [Trisquel-users] Legal enforceability of licenses

2013-11-05 Thread gramex

A surprising revelation...
On this[0] page, it says the add-on is derived from bitcoin-prices, another  
Firefox add-on. On the Github page of bitcoin-prices,[1] the license is GPL  
v3. The license file was added on July 14, 2013, but the last update of  
bitcoin-ticker was on March 29, 2013.


[0] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/bitcoin-ticker/
[1] https://github.com/frewsxcv/Bitcoin-Prices


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to Change Default Main Menu In Trisquel6?

2013-11-05 Thread dhunt
There's an applet called Main Menu in System Settings; that doesn't do what  
you want?  


Re: [Trisquel-users] 6.0.1 Ready For Testing

2013-11-05 Thread gramex

What's different about the isos that have fsf in the file name?


Re: [Trisquel-users] 6.0.1 Ready For Testing

2013-11-05 Thread dhunt
More included apps, special FSF page on startup, and, maybe, different art  
work?  


Re: [Trisquel-users] 6.0.1 Ready For Testing

2013-11-05 Thread stevekilleen

Hi again,

Thanks very much Dave. Good to know as I like to help out and test Trisquel  
any way I can.


Also according to Andrew above, one can still upgrade from 6.0 by typing the  
following into a terminal:


'apt-get update' and 'apt-get dist-upgrade'

Is this still true?

As far as I know FSF versions of the iso files are the isos given out at free  
software foundation events and sometimes at Windows 8 promotional events to  
guide people in the direction of freedom! :-)


Only difference is some extra software I think but I would go with the normal  
iso as I was unable to log in to the FSF iso when I tried it when 6.0 came  
out.


Steve





Re: [Trisquel-users] Legal enforceability of licenses

2013-11-05 Thread arielxgbarton

its probabaly the same as WTFPL which is fsf approved, but not osi approved.


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to Change Default Main Menu In Trisquel6?

2013-11-05 Thread mohamadi . salman

@Dave_Hunt:
alacarte is the software behind Main Menu.

@Milandini:
It seems that there is a huge misunderstanding. Alacarte (Main Menu) is a  
menu editor which can be used for editing menu entries but GnoMenu is  
intended for replacing the menu itself.


Re: [Trisquel-users] What are the things that Trisquel can do but Windows 7 can't?

2013-11-05 Thread arielxgbarton
I think it's mostly things that windows 7 HAS and trisquel does not. Such as  
DRM. I once tried to transfer a file from a computer to a external hdd.  
Windows did not let me, because the file had microsoft DRM.


Trisquel is faster, easier to install, you can change gui a lot more easily.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem with Bitmessage installation

2013-11-05 Thread gramex
First make sure that you have all the dependencies by typing this command in  
the terminal:


sudo apt-get install python openssl git python-qt4

Now, type this command all on one line:

git clone https://github.com/Bitmessage/PyBitmessage ~/PyBitmessage

(~/ is shorthand for your home folder)

Run it by entering this command:

~/PyBitmessage/src/bitmessagemain.py


Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem with Bitmessage installation

2013-11-05 Thread 438963

I followed your suggetions, but the same error message appeared again.


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to Change Default Main Menu In Trisquel6?

2013-11-05 Thread rajai_rad

Tnx SalmanMohammadi
==
Please just tell me  how to replace default main menu of trisquel6 with
gnomenu?


[Trisquel-users] Moving cursor with keyboard

2013-11-05 Thread darrenvenables
Does Trisquel have a built-in utility that will allow me to use the arrow  
keys to move the cursor? If not, is such a utility available as free  
software?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Removing Trisquel in windows problem

2013-11-05 Thread arielxgbarton
Tell me about your degree in computers. You have one, yet you are unable to  
do something as basic as installing gnu/linux. I have no computer degree, and  
I can use trisquel fine. I started using ubuntu in 2011, and earlier this  
year changed to using free software only.


If you have issues with WIFI disconnecting, either use an external one, or  
install the non-free driver, if there is one. I use a PCMCIA wireless card in  
my laptop. It really does not take long to download the non-free driver.


Clearly, if it is disconnecting on windows as well, its a problem with the  
wireless card, not the driver. Please do not blame your broken hardware on  
the linux kernel developers. Its not their fault.


Secondly, GNU/Linux is easy to use. If a beginner got a computer, it came  
with trisquel, he could just enter his wifi password and immedietly start  
using the internet. It will have the office programs installed - libreoffice,  
and whatever. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem with Bitmessage installation

2013-11-05 Thread gramex
May I see the output from the terminal? Select the text in the terminal,  
press Control+Shift+C, then paste it at http://trisquel.pastebay.com, with  
the normal paste function. (Ctrl-v)


Re: [Trisquel-users] 6.0.1 Ready For Testing

2013-11-05 Thread i430614

oh yeah debian based trisquel would be nice ;)


[Trisquel-users] Accountancy free softwares ?

2013-11-05 Thread ashok . biollay

Hello everybody,

I don't know a lot about accountancy but I will probably learn the grounds of  
it, or more.


I would like to know which free software we can use for accountancy, with  
Trisquel 6.0 .


I ask this question because I know that... probably, if I learn accountancy  
in a society or in a school, probably - and unfortunately ! - they will use  
proprietary softwares.


Because I will probably have to use the same softwares as them, I will have  
to learn it and install it on a laptop (with Windows, not with Trisquel ;  
okay, I know that Windows and Mac are evil). My idea is to learn accountancy  
both with proprietary software(s) - because I can't force society to use only  
free software - and free software - because, you know, I want to stay free,  
like us.


At once, I wonder about compatibility of files formats. What are open format  
for accountancy files ? What are closed format for accountancy ? Will there  
be compatibility problems ? (like sometimes between odt and doc, between  
LibreOffice and Microsoft Office)


Thank you in advance for your answers.

I don't know : are there many differences between accountancy in Switzerland  
- where I live - and accountancy in France, in the United States, in England,  
etc. ?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Moving cursor with keyboard

2013-11-05 Thread darrenvenables
That seems useful, but my laptop doesn't have a number pad, and the  
instructions aren't clear on how to emulate one.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Add-on Screengrab licence

2013-11-05 Thread gramex

It's been over a week and I haven't gotten a response.


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to Change Default Main Menu In Trisquel6?

2013-11-05 Thread leny2010
You can modify the Panel with Super+Alt+Right-Click on it. If you do that  
just to the left of the Notification Area the menu that pops up will include  
Add To Panel as would have been used to add Gnomenu to Gnome 2.  Wether it  
will work if Gnomenu is still built for Gnome 2 I don't know.


[Trisquel-users] Antwort: Substitute fonts

2013-11-05 Thread punya
On this page are various free and nice fonts, such as Linux Libertine and  
Linux Biolinum: http://www.linuxlibertine.org/index.php?id=2 (There is also  
an English version of the website available)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Moving cursor with keyboard

2013-11-05 Thread leny2010
All the laptop keyboards I've seen remap some of the keys as the numeric pad  
on pressing a Fn+/something/ sequence. Look for small numbers around the UIOP  
JKL; and M,./ keys.  The /something/ key will say something like NumLk or  
have a mini numeric pad logo on it in the same color as the Fn key legend.   
The function is local to the keyboard controller chip that's why it isn't  
documented in the Gnome help.


If you do have a really, really, weird latop keyboard without this function  
then it is possible to modify the keyboard mapping to produce the right codes  
for a key combination of your own choosing.  When I last did that I started  
with the xmodmap man page and used xev to work out the keycodes I needed to  
remap.  I recommend you start there. As I have a UK keyboard and you have a  
.ca email address it's almost certain I can't help you more with that myself.





Re: [Trisquel-users] What are the things that Trisquel can do but Windows 7 can't?

2013-11-05 Thread Andrew R.
Better package management.


Re: [Trisquel-users] What are the things that Trisquel can do but Windows 7 can't?

2013-11-05 Thread icarolongo

Trisquel can do things with freedom.

The best way is migrate from proprietary applications to free as in freedom  
applications. After this everybody can use Trisquel without problems.


Install in your Windows: Firefox, Thunderbird, LibreOffice, VLC, Jitsi,  
Deluge(or qbittorrent), GIMP, Inkscape, Scribus, Blender, Audacity, etc (you  
can search others here in Trisquel website (also in the distribution, of  
course) or in the Free Software Directory).


After this step you can install the default Trisquel (GNOME Panel+Compiz) or  
with GNOME Shell or KDE or XFCE. Or try Trisquel Mini with LXDE.


And try to move out people from Facebook, Google Plus, Twitter, Skype,  
Flickr, YouTube and move to Diaspora, pump.io, XMPP and GNU MediaGoblin.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Moving cursor with keyboard

2013-11-05 Thread darrenvenables
What are xmodmap and xev and how do I use them? And exactly which members of  
the forum can see my email address?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Moving cursor with keyboard

2013-11-05 Thread gramex

Mailing list users can see each others' e-mail addresses.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Moving cursor with keyboard

2013-11-05 Thread darrenvenables
Gah. My email address contains my real name, which I don't want online. Why  
does this forum even require it?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Substitute fonts

2013-11-05 Thread c269824

I believe those fonts are included in Trisquel.


Re: [Trisquel-users] What are the things that Trisquel can do but Windows 7 can't?

2013-11-05 Thread em9002
From an ethical perspective, I'm not sure it's right to say good things about  
proprietary software, whether or not those things are true.  I fail to see  
how what you've said can benefit us in any way.


Re: [Trisquel-users] What are the things that Trisquel can do but Windows 7 can't?

2013-11-05 Thread c269824
You seem to have forgotten that proprietary software can be functional and  
user-friendly, too.


Re: [Trisquel-users] What are the things that Trisquel can do but Windows 7 can't?

2013-11-05 Thread gramex

If you find design flaws in free software, then it can be improved.


Re: [Trisquel-users] What are the things that Trisquel can do but Windows 7 can't?

2013-11-05 Thread LDrumbler

At this point, it can't. It would require an overhaul of the entire system.


Re: [Trisquel-users] What are the things that Trisquel can do but Windows 7 can't?

2013-11-05 Thread gaming4jc2

1) Trisquel Doesn't spy on you; Windows 7 does.

2) Trisquel let's you run unix applications; Windows 7 has non-free cygwin  
but it's just not the same.


3) Trisquel let's you recover a Windows PC from a LiveCD; Windows 7 doesn't  
have a LiveCD officially and BartPE imo doesn't do as good of a job.


4) Trisquel let's you easily host your own servers; Windows 7 after disabling  
multiple firewalls and UAC settings let's you do the same but is likely more  
vunerable to malicious attackers.


5) Trisquel is open-source so you can modify whatever you want; Windows 7 is  
a buggy black box.


Yes, it's not as user-friendly as some Windows 7 features and hardware  
support, but with tweaking and continued bugs filed against the right  
packages it is my hope it one day will be. :)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem with Bitmessage installation

2013-11-05 Thread gaming4jc2

This seems to be a very closely related error with solution:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16068976/git-push-failing-suddenly-git-remote-https-relocation-error




Re: [Trisquel-users] How to Change Default Main Menu In Trisquel6?

2013-11-05 Thread rajai_rad

tanks leny2010
but does not work
There was no gnomenu applet


Re: [Trisquel-users] Moving cursor with keyboard

2013-11-05 Thread gaming4jc2

http://www.upubuntu.com/2011/07/how-to-move-your-mouse-pointer-with.html

Without a numpad (easy way):
http://askubuntu.com/questions/88948/control-mouse-pointer-with-keyboard-without-a-number-pad

Another way:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2053587s=9af477b145f9337ab8a04e2ffa481393p=12220029#post12220029


Re: [Trisquel-users] What are the things that Trisquel can do but Windows 7 can't?

2013-11-05 Thread Andrew R.
On 06/11/13 11:28, gaming4jc2 wrote:
 2) Trisquel let's you run unix applications; Windows 7 has non-free 
 cygwin but it's just not the same.

cygwin is free software!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cygwin

Andrew.


Re: [Trisquel-users] What are the things that Trisquel can do but Windows 7 can't?

2013-11-05 Thread Andrew R.
On 06/11/13 10:01, c269824 wrote:
 Oh, gosh, no. On Windows there's no such thing as a broken package. 
 On Windows you never have to worry about dependencies. On Windows you
 can install things easily without an Internet connection because of
 those dependencies. On Windows you don't depend on your distro's 
 repositories being kept up-to-date. I maintain that Windows has 
 better software management.

I don't entirely agree. Each program on Windows provides its own
updating capabilities. On a typical Windows system you will see
notifications for Adobe and Java updates along with Windows updates, and
in the background there are updates for Google and Mozilla software.
Recent games on Windows also update regularly.

I don't believe the part about internet connections, as many software
updaters on Windows assume you have an internet connection. Another
point on internet connectivity is that many users have some form of
access to the internet, even if that means going to a library, internet
cafe with WiFi or the local university.

Package management on Windows doesn't manage dependencies, which is why
installers for Windows include all dependencies and are sometimes quite big.

Broken packages aren't that common on GNU/Linux distros. I personally
haven't had any packages break on me. I recall there being an issue
related to installing Epiphany in Trisquel a while back, and also issues
with the abrowser/firefox package dependencies. But these typically
cause issues in non-standard installations.

Andrew.


Re: [Trisquel-users] What are the things that Trisquel can do but Windows 7 can't?

2013-11-05 Thread gaming4jc2
Cygwin is mostly free. It has several packages with freedom issues which is  
why I mentioned it was non-free; see here: http://www.cygwin.com/packages/


Compare those against this libre blacklist:
http://repo.parabolagnulinux.org/docs/blacklist.txt



Re: [Trisquel-users] “badBIOS,” malware that jumps airgaps

2013-11-05 Thread mrtransistor

Looks like Intel has put 3G radio on the microprocessor.
Get a spectrum analyzer near it and peek for 3G band.

http://www.infowars.com/91497/



Re: [Trisquel-users] How to Change Default Main Menu In Trisquel6?

2013-11-05 Thread rajai_rad

im install gnome-session and gnome-shell
But it show an error message when Lgoin to gnome3
(Gnome Shell session fails to load)
i think it is related to hardware 3d accleration(ati4670)


Re: [Trisquel-users] “badBIOS,” malware that jumps airgaps

2013-11-05 Thread gaming4jc2

http://www.fugly.com/media/IMAGES/Random/tinfoil_computer.jpg


Re: [Trisquel-users] What are the things that Trisquel can do but Windows 7 can't?

2013-11-05 Thread onpon4
Windows doesn't have a package management system. Only system-level updates  
are delivered by Microsoft themselves. Other than that, it only has a  
standard for decentralized production of installers; it's up to software  
developers to make these installers, figure out how to include dependencies,  
provide an update mechanism, etc. Many developers don't even bother with  
this, and just package a binary in an archive and tell Windows users,  
extract and run.


The only reason it arguably works better than the centralized package system  
Trisquel uses is because Windows is very popular, so much so that software  
developers feel obligated to provide something easy for Windows users, and  
sharing dependencies that aren't in every base system is so impractical that  
each program just comes with its own copy of every dependency.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Substitute fonts

2013-11-05 Thread tegskywalker

I've used Vegur in the past and it is a really nice font.


Re: [Trisquel-users] 6.0.1 Ready For Testing

2013-11-05 Thread tegskywalker
If this ISO is being released this late, it should at least have the LTS  
enablement stack with the lts-raring (3.8) kernel deblobbed, the raring xorg,  
and mesa like the recent Ubuntu 12.04 ISOs:  
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack


Re: [Trisquel-users] Wireless G USB Adapter arrived today!

2013-11-05 Thread longsong

No.

The wireless connection is slower than the cable connection. But it is good  
enough.


I had used other wireless connection as well. It seemed always that the cable  
connection is faster.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Accountancy free softwares ?

2013-11-05 Thread jason
The Software Freedom Conservancy has a campaign to raise money for the  
development of accounting software so aparently there is something lacking at  
the moment. They later announced [1] that they were hiring someone. Later on  
the announcement [2] came that it would be Joar Wandborg. It might be a good  
idea to keep in touch with them and share with them things that need  
improving in the world of free accounting software.


[0] http://sfconservancy.org/campaign/
[1] http://sfconservancy.org/news/2013/aug/26/software-architect/
[2]  
http://lists.sfconservancy.org/pipermail/npo-accounting/2013q4/72.html

[3] http://lists.sfconservancy.org/mailman/listinfo/npo-accounting


Re: [Trisquel-users] What are the things that Trisquel can do but Windows 7 can't?

2013-11-05 Thread Andrew Lindley
Oh, gosh, no. On Windows there's no such thing as a broken 
package...


Let W$ = Windows
Let M$ = Microsoft

On the contrary on a W$ system just about every package is broken.

Firstly, with native code programs other than the function bundled 
with bare W$ itself very little code is shared between apps, the 
technical details of how DLLs don't version prevents this.  So when 
you install a W$ app you install a separate copy of common program 
parts for every program and these have to be loaded separately for 
each program.  Thus you use a lot of disk and memory you don't need 
to, which is broken software packaging.  Trisquel programs are much 
better at sharing code and there is more function in the shared code. 
The result is you can do more at one time with a computer running 
Trisquel than you could if it were running W$.


Secondly, with Trisquel probably all your app needs will be met from 
the repo.  So you have one update program, which reminds you once or 
twice a week when there are updates, you install them when it suits 
you.  W$ programs typically check individually, phoning home every 
time they're loaded and if there are updates they attempt to maintain 
themselves there and then.  Thus interrupting your train of thought 
and workflow precisely when you don't need it.  Those once a month 
tasks your boss sets you, which you have to use other than your usual 
tools for, each become additional software maintenance sessions.  
This W$ behaviour is a broken approach to delivering packages.


Thirdly you're forgetting all the software that stops working 
properly or at all when maintenance, particularly a new Service Pack 
has been applied.  If dependencies are broken and you can still 
install these are the sort of things that happen.  So a percentage 
are properly the consequence of not packaging properly.




Re: [Trisquel-users] Virtualization article in trisquel wiki

2013-11-05 Thread gromobir
Thank you very much for this. As VirtualBox isn't working anymore with  
Trisquel, this was badly needed.