Re: [Trisquel-users] Ubuntu GNOME 14.04 Beta 1: GNOME Classic session is also included by default

2014-02-28 Thread onpon4
GNOME Classic is a set of extensions made by the GNOME team a few releases  
ago to replace GNOME Fallback, which at the time was discontinued. That  
announcement just means that Ubuntu GNOME is including the Classic session by  
default; it's not something new.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Microsoft now fighting UK government over FLOSS

2014-02-28 Thread davesam415
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2330040/microsoft-cries-out-to-uk-government-against-open-source  
is the very b*o0*y reason NOT to use Microsoft Office =2007.


And of course Microsoft couldn't say anything about user freedom.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pitivi needs YOUR HELP

2014-02-28 Thread davesam415

It's open source. Far from free software.

Which of the 4 software freedoms do software licensed under those licenses  
take from you.


And I've got a feeling that you might not recognise the difference between  
free software and Copyleft, the latter not mandatory in order for the former  
to be achieved.


[Trisquel-users] Re : Pitivi needs YOUR HELP

2014-02-28 Thread magicbanana
There basically is no *practical* difference between free software and  
open source. Even rms tells it:


As far as we know, all existing free software would qualify as open source.  
Nearly all open source software is free software, but there are exceptions.


The exceptions are a handful unpopular licenses... and, obviously (given its  
mere name), the GNU LGPL is not among them! It is copyrighted by the Free  
Software Foundation! You do not need to be good at English to read the three  
first lines of the license:


   GNU LESSER GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE
   Version 3, 29 June 2007

 Copyright (C) 2007 Free Software Foundation, Inc.

The (essential) difference between the two terms is to be found in the values  
pushed by the people using one term or the other: free software is about  
respecting the users' essential freedoms, whereas the term open source was  
specifically coined to not talk about ethical issues. Anyway, as rms tells  
nearly all open source software is free software. The enemy is not the open  
source software! It is the proprietary software.


Now would you please stop insulting users of this forum?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pitivi needs YOUR HELP

2014-02-28 Thread davesam415
Except that this isn't about one's understanding of and ability to use  
English?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pitivi needs YOUR HELP

2014-02-28 Thread davesam415
note to readers: copyrighted in this case, as far as I know, means copylefted  
(which de jure is a a way of applying copyright).


Re: [Trisquel-users] problems with gnash

2014-02-28 Thread davesam415
ViewTube: http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/87011 (note: contrary to what  
its name may suggest, it works on a lot of sites, though not every site out  
there, but only the ones it tells itself to be present in.


Re: [Trisquel-users] FOSS gaming

2014-02-28 Thread davesam415

Would http://www.playdeb.net/welcome/ do the job?


[Trisquel-users] Linterna Mágica campaign

2014-02-28 Thread Ivaylo Valkov
Hey Free Software users,

I know that there are some Linterna Mágica users reading the Trisquel
mailing list, so I would like to inform them about some of our latest
developments.

We are running crowd funding campaign [1] for Linterna Mágica T-Shirts,
that would help development and spread the word about us. [2]

Our goal is at least 20 preorders for the prints to be produced and
delivered. The campaign ends at 20th of March. Help us get there!

As usual, any feedback (about the campaign or in general) is greatly
valued.

Thanks!

[1]
http://teespring.com/linternamagica



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Re: [Trisquel-users] Pitivi needs YOUR HELP

2014-02-28 Thread shiretoko

Yeah, it's obviously a troll, so I don't really care.
I was just concerned about the interested reader who might get the wrong  
impression, but many people helped out and clarified the situation.

So thanks to everyone!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Your thoughts on Firefox to have ads in the browser

2014-02-28 Thread arielxgbarton
But the free ad-blocker (adblock plus) automaticialy allows non-intrusive  
advertising. Those websites should do that.


Also, wouldn't it be better for the ad-blocker to make the website think that  
the user was seeing the ad, that way the developer would still get paid


Re: [Trisquel-users] Your thoughts on Firefox to have ads in the browser

2014-02-28 Thread arielxgbarton

How was RMS funded when he was developing GNU?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Linterna Mágica campaign

2014-02-28 Thread Ivaylo Valkov
В 18:43 +0100 на 28.02.2014 (пт), shiret...@web.de написа:
 Well, honestly I don't quite understand.
 The purpose of this campaign is to raise money for linterna magica t-shirts 
  
 and not for linterna magica itself?

If the campaign is successful everyone who ordered a T-shirt will get
one. The money will be split between me, Anton (the designer) and the
campaign site. If the required minimal amount of preorders is not
reached, the campaign fails, the people gets their money back and that's
it. 


 Why did you choose this indirect way?

The direct ways were always on the website. Donations for Linterna
Mágica are rare. We had one big donation from ThinkPenguin (Chris
thanks again!) few years ago. Only few people donated (you know who you
are, thanks!) over the years. Last year we had a survey [1] in which
very few participated. It showed that we have a problem in the donation
are.


 People who buy this t-shirt do it for the sole purpose of giving money to you 
  
 for your work, so why taking away some part of this money for the t-shirt  
 manufacturer etc

This is a zero-cost-entry campaign for us... well I've spent one night
with 4 hours of sleep, but still. :) The campaign on the T-shirts
themselves could reach people (offline) whom we cannot, because we don't
walk on the same path over the Internet. As I've said donations are
rare, so we are trying this more dynamic approach with additional
benefit for those who are wondering should they make a financial
contribution.

I would love it if people donated more, because I would be able to spent
more time on Linterna Mágica and they would get better Linterna
Mágica. Work on LM cannot be compared with anything for hire,
unfortunately I can work on it in my spare time. Thats the cruel
reality. :)


[1] http://e-valkov.org/linterna-magica-survey/results


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Re: [Trisquel-users] Pitivi needs YOUR HELP

2014-02-28 Thread onpon4
No, MB wasn't talking about copyleft. MB was talking about the copyright  
monopoly of the license text itself. In fact, the GNU licenses are all under  
a simple license which allows only verbatim copying and distribution of the  
license in full.


Not mentioned previously, GNU is also a trademark.


[Trisquel-users] Canonical Licesning Repositories

2014-02-28 Thread simonafreeman

http://www.muktware.com/2014/02/need-license-canonical-create-derivatives/21066

I mean talk about standing on the shoulders of giants.  Ubuntu would be  
nothing without Debian or GNU for that matter.  Nothing like taking credit  
for others work.


[Trisquel-users] logitech m560 DO NOT buy this mouse.

2014-02-28 Thread arielgnu

If you find this post, chances are you want to change this mouse's behavior.

This mouse is a mess. Try to avoid it if you can. This mouse was designed for  
Windows 8.


Button 2 (which is usually the scroll's wheel button) is not present. Instead  
the scroll makes a clicking sound, and the mouse goes from free-spinning  
mode to click-to-click mode in some sort of mechanical way. I really  
needed that button 2 in my mouse, so I spend some time finding if there could  
be a way to make a square button under the scroll's wheel behave as button 2.  
Unfortunately I were unable to find any satisfactory solution to use this  
button, at lest not on one click :(


Let me show you how this mouse behaves, this was took from the following bug  
report trying to find a way to make this mouse usable:


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1035668

Default button mapping, as reported by xev and xinput:
Button 1 - left click
Button 3 - right click
Button 4 - wheel up
Button 5 - wheel down
Button 8 - tilt left
Button 9 - tilt right

And the problematic ones:
Pressing the forward button sends Super_R (keycode 134).
Pressing the back button sends simultaneously Super_L and d (keycodes 133   
40).
Pressing the square button once, gives simultaneously Alt_L, Super_L and  
XF86TouchpadOff (keycodes 64, 133, 201).

Pressing it a second time is like pressing button 1.
This button alternates between those two states.
Moving the mouse to the left while pressing the square button gives  
simultaneously Control + Tab + Super_L, and button 1 when the square button  
is release.
Some times, after pressing the square button and releasing, and later you  
move the mouse to the left, it will still sent a Control + Tab + Super_L, so  
is not very consistent :(


I found the following page which really helped me a lot:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MouseCustomizations

Since The first thing I wanted to do is be able to use some other button as  
button 2 I used the following command to switch button 9 (tilt right) to be  
button 2:


xmodmap -e pointer = 1 9 3 4 5 6 7 8 2 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21  
22 23 24


Now to change the behavior of the other buttons I used xbindkeys. xbindkeys  
will catch for instance Super_L and d (back button), and with the help xte we  
can sent a different key press:


This is my .xbindkey:

#forward
/usr/bin/xte 'keyup Super_R' ; sleep .01; /usr/bin/xte 'key Home' 
   Super_R

#back
/usr/bin/xte 'keyup Super_L' ; sleep .01; /usr/bin/xte 'key End' 
   Mod4 + d

#move mouse left with square button pressed

   Control + Tab + Super_L

#square button stage 1
/usr/bin/xte 'mouseclick 1'
   Super_L + Alt

I was unable to catch Super_R + Release. Maybe I just didn't know how to.  
Notice that I couldn't find a use for move mouse left with square button  
pressed, so I just left it blank, and first stage of the square button will  
do the same thing as the second stage (a single button 1 click).


I usually use button 2 of the mouse to open links in a new top on the  
browser. In my effort to make the square button work as a button 2, I came  
with the following code which will prevent the second or the last release of  
the square button from clicking were it shouldn't:


#!/bin/bash
/usr/bin/xte 'mouseclick 2'
xmodmap -e pointer = 24 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21  
22 23 1

sleep 1
xmodmap -e pointer = 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21  
22 23 24


This was suppose to prevent the mouse from clicking, after move mouse left  
with square button pressed, or in the second click switching back to stage  
one of the squire button.


It worked, but having to move the mouse left every time or double clicking to  
go back to stage 1 before one second was insane.


I know I spent to much time in this shitty mouse, maybe buying a new one was  
the best option but I couldn't return it back to the store and I didn't want  
it to go to waste.


So there you have it. Hopefully it will help some one else. Thank you.

P.S. is some body nows a way to change second stage of the square button will  
be awesome. See you every one.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Linterna Mágica campaign

2014-02-28 Thread franparpe

Thank you for telling us about the situation.

I like the design of the T-shirts, I Think I'm ging to buy one. I'm still  
deciding which one I prefer.


Let see how it goes. Good luck,


Re: [Trisquel-users] Anyone got touchpad running on a chromebook with Trisquel 6?

2014-02-28 Thread leoneoleoneo
Ok, I installed linux-image-generic-lts-saucy however i dont know where to  
get the script fro patching it. Any ideas?


[Trisquel-users] Is it hard to create a new netinstall ISO?

2014-02-28 Thread tegskywalker
We never got a final 6.1 ISO with the Saucy kernel, but how hard is it to  
create a new net install ISO to have the Saucy kernel as one of the options?


I may upgrade my PC soon and don't want to be stuck with the old 3.2 kernel  
hoping everything works.


[Trisquel-users] Abiword and abicollab.net

2014-02-28 Thread adel . afzal

I just want to ask whether I understand how Abicollab works:

Users run the free Abiword software on their own computers.  And rely on  
abicollab.net to host the file.


Is Abicollab therefore free, and not sass?  Is there any downside to relying  
on Abicollab to host the file?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Abiword and abicollab.net

2014-02-28 Thread onpon4
I'm not familiar with the service, but it sounds like it facilitates  
collaboration on a single document. Is that correct? If it is, this is a job  
that your own computer can't do on its own, and therefore the service is not  
SaaSS.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Pitivi needs YOUR HELP

2014-02-28 Thread davesam415

Whoops! My bad.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trying Trisquel 6.0 without installing: How to proceed beyond the login window

2014-02-28 Thread jozape
Do I need a different ISO or need to do extra work to create a Live DVD? I  
have the default ISO from the download page burned to a DVD which presents  
the Try Trisquel without installing option. I was using this DVD to try  
before I posted my issue.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Are fonts software?

2014-02-28 Thread laradavid829

I didn't get you... What exactly you want to say?
Ref: hr software
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hr software