Re: [Trisquel-users] Freeslack (a little off topic)
Agreed. It is essentially a project to document all the instances of non-libre software present in Slackware so that anyone can make a libre version thereof. A list of all the packages is offered so people can check the licences in order to create a totally free version. I suppose that a side by side comparison of packages with something like Triskel or Debian without the non-free repo enabled, might offer a short cut to examining each and every package. That's based on the presumption that if package.x is libre on Triskel it's probably libre on slackware too. No doubt someone will post a list of packages for which this is not true - packaging and licence checks are totally new to me, so I'm guessing.
Re: [Trisquel-users] NSA able to target offline computers using radio-waves for surveillance
So basically, trisquel is useless when it comes to privacy? As all the technology exists to spy on people at the hardware level which bypasses the software altogether...
Re: [Trisquel-users] NSA able to target offline computers using radio-waves for surveillance
"They have the technology to read every single keystroke you make, through a solid wall, with no physical connection required." Please don't spread FUD. "Without any physical connection" would be some kind of magic, and we're not in hogwarths. What you probably meant is some kind of internet or lan connection. In that case, after everything I read, you're right.
Re: [Trisquel-users] NSA able to target offline computers using radio-waves for surveillance
Well, that's like saying: "We can't immunize people against _every_ disease, so Immunization is useless". It's one part of the puzzle - if we work on the other parts as well, then one day we might achieve a decent digital society.
Re: [Trisquel-users] NSA able to target offline computers using radio-waves for surveillance
No. Libre Software defends (together with encryption and common sence) you from mass survelliance, which is mostly software-related. Hardware holes make you vulnerable to personal spying only. On Fri, 2014-09-05 at 10:45 +0200, oshirowa...@gmail.com wrote: > So basically, trisquel is useless when it comes to privacy? As all the > technology exists to spy on people at the hardware level which bypasses the > software altogether... -- Happy hacking! akifo www: https://blog.akifo.pw xmpp: ak...@member.fsf.org GNU social: https://quitter.se/akifo BitMessage: BM-2cUBB2sXo7yKRU1GkjT3ToznBMy5Sj9PCi signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Trisquel-users] Help installing Libreboot and dependencies
Don't remember if it's already part of build-essential, but make sure that make is properly installed: sudo apt-get install make. If that's the case, then the script can't find it and you probably have to tell it about the correct path with some kind of flag. I don't know for sure, though.
Re: [Trisquel-users] NSA able to target offline computers using radio-waves for surveillance
Well, wifi is basically high frequency radio waves.
Re: [Trisquel-users] NSA able to target offline computers using radio-waves for surveillance
Yeah, electromagnetic waves - defintely a physical connection.
Re: [Trisquel-users] NSA able to target offline computers using radio-waves for surveillance
That's non-sense. How do you come to this conclusion?
Re: [Trisquel-users] NSA able to target offline computers using radio-waves for surveillance
It's not FUD. The method works by detecting the differences in voltage that pass down the keyboard wire. The technology has existed for a while now. It works through solid walls and from up to 20 feet away. It is a specifically targeted method rather than a broad keyword search, but exists none the less. It's mentioned in one of the other threads on this subject, on this site.
Re: [Trisquel-users] NSA able to target offline computers using radio-waves for surveillance
"The method works by detecting the differences in voltage that pass down the keyboard wire." Yeah, it's based on measuring electromagnetic fields, so of course there is a physical connection. I may be picky on the terms, but nobody can spy on anyone without a physical connection. Just because there is a wall, no wire and no wlan around doesn't mean your isolated. Please trust the laws of physics: without any physical connection, there is no spying. So yeah, it's FUD, but I guess you mean something different.
Re: [Trisquel-users] NSA able to target offline computers using radio-waves for surveillance
Tests have shown that the data can be read through walls and up to 65 feet away. From... http://hackaday.com/2008/10/20/eavesdrop-on-keyboards-wirelessly/
Re: [Trisquel-users] Diaspora*
add me
Re: [Trisquel-users] Re : Diaspora*
http://social.aross.me
Re: [Trisquel-users] NSA able to target offline computers using radio-waves for surveillance
Hopefully projects like Libreboot can help with this, but there is a lack hardware to install it on. Even if you can, its really really hard to install.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem with steraming video
thank you at all. At the end I installed AdobeFlash because many video I'd to watch are in swf format and with other way I can't see them.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Install TOR Browser
Great! Happy Hiding!
Re: [Trisquel-users] NSA able to target offline computers using radio-waves for surveillance
The fact that they were able to spy _means_ that there was _some kind_ of physical connection... Don't know how I could explain it any better... photons, other particle transfer - something!
Re: [Trisquel-users] NSA able to target offline computers using radio-waves for surveillance
Yes, it needs some kind of physical connection between the computer and the NSA, some kind of bridge needs to be established to spy, and bridges can be detected.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Compilation terminates, likely due to missing library
Look in the Makefile, it should be straightforward. If you don't want to edit the makefile, just link it yourself (specifying the correct boost libraries of course)
[Trisquel-users] NSA able to target offline computers using radio-waves for surveillance
The average person probably won't be targeted for this attack. I think you would only need to worry about it if you are a whistleblower, political activist, etc. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
[Trisquel-users] NSA able to target offline computers using radio-waves for surveillance
Sorry, I didn't mean to reply specifically to your message, quantumgravity. I meant to reply to the whole list. (Either me or my e-mail program is kind of wonky.) -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Install TOR Browser
Here's a PPA for Trisquel 6.0 and 7.0: https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/ubuntu/tor-browser
Re: [Trisquel-users] Help installing Libreboot and dependencies
Yes it's in b-e. $ apt-cache depends build-essential build-essential |Depends: libc6-dev Depends: libc6-dev Depends: gcc Depends: g++ Depends: make Depends: dpkg-dev
Re: [Trisquel-users] Help installing Libreboot and dependencies
Glad to hear you got it sorted! I think it would now be a good idea to give constructive criticism to Libreboot about the instructions, the bits you found confusing. The guy who runs it (Fchmmr) is pretty open to suggestions according to my experience. That way the next guy will have a better experience. :)
[Trisquel-users] Help installing Icedove
Hi, I'm new, and a big ignorant on GNU/Linux, so please take it into account for your explanations. I would like to install Icedove, but don't know how. Could anyone please explain step by step? Thank you very much in advance! I tried to install it, but after entering 'sudo apt-get install icedove' I got this: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: icedove : Depends: libfontconfig1 (>= 2.11) but 2.8.0-3ubuntu9.1 is to be installed Depends: libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.37.3) but 2.32.4-0ubuntu1 is to be installed Depends: libhunspell-1.3-0 (>= 1.3.3) but 1.3.2-4 is to be installed Depends: libnspr4 (>= 2:4.10.3) but 4.9.5-0ubuntu0.12.04.3 is to be installed Depends: libnss3 (>= 2:3.16.1) but 3.15.4-0ubuntu0.12.04.2 is to be installed Depends: libpango-1.0-0 (>= 1.14.0) but it is not installable Depends: libpangocairo-1.0-0 (>= 1.14.0) but it is not installable Depends: libpangoft2-1.0-0 (>= 1.14.0) but it is not installable Depends: libstdc++6 (>= 4.9) but 4.6.3-1ubuntu5 is to be installed Depends: libvpx1 (>= 1.3.0) but 1.0.0-1 is to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[Trisquel-users] Internet Slowdown for net neutrality Sept. 10th
We kicked SOPA's ass, looks like it's time to do some more kicking! https://battleforthenet.com/sept10th/
Re: [Trisquel-users] NSA able to target offline computers using radio-waves for surveillance
This alleges that it's possible to focus on a particular house/room, from outside, and be able to tell what's being typed - without any physical connection. Though it has the smack of James Bond about it I do confess. That was PS2 connections though and USB apparently is different. It was also in the days prior to widespread use of wireless routers so there's now a lot more noise around. Besides, if you really wanted to watch what everyone was typing you'd pass a law stating that ISP's have to keep records of everything that goes through their networks. Oh...
[Trisquel-users] Re : Problem with steraming video
Are those videos really worth bargaining your freedoms?
[Trisquel-users] Re : finding particular pages within PDFs
The problem was not the size of the PDFs but the number of matching pages (29008 in you case). The script was actually creating a 1-page PDF for each of them and then pass them all to 'pdfunite'. It appears the kernel limits the number of files a process can open and 'pdfunite' cannot do its job. Given your usage, I was wrong when I wrote that the script mainly is useful in "needle in the haystack" contexts. That is why I went back to using 'pdfjam'. You should notice a performance gain. Using 'pdfjam' solves the problem of the number of files to "unite" (as long as there are less than 1022 PDFs with matching pages). The new script is there: http://dcc.ufmg.br/~lcerf/en/utilities.html#pdf-page-grep
[Trisquel-users] Re : Help installing Icedove
Icedove is not in Trisquel's repository. Thunderbird is.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Internet Slowdown for net neutrality Sept. 10th
That site is recommending serving a proprietary script to users: http://widget.battleforthenet.com/widget.min.js No license notice, and no link to the source code. You'd think the source code would be this: http://widget.battleforthenet.com/widget.js But nope, it doesn't seem to be the case. There's no way any programmer would write a program like that; I certainly can't read it. And again, no license notice. This isn't unusual on the Web, but it's still a problem with this thing.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Help installing Icedove
Did something change in Trisquel 7? On Trisquel 6, I get a much simpler error saying that icedove has no candidate for installation (it's a virtual package).
Re: [Trisquel-users] Updates: Opensource/Free FPS standalone mod of Xonotic (ChaosEsque)
Released a new version. The buildable building system has been improved, and new blocks have been added to that section of the code, aswell as floors. (You can build full buildings, parts of buildings (vaults, walls, floors, or if you have something specific in mind you can build with blocks too (64x64 qunits, of various shapes (block, diagnol, casing, pyramidion, stairs, inside/outside corners of such things, rounded corner, etc. And for marble you can also build fullered rounded corner pieces, to make columns, base top and middle, and column decorative base... and there are 22 marble types to choose from for the marble blocks (same with marble floors: lots of choices). Also roofblockcolor can be chosen aswell. Pesant style blocks for making walls has also been added, and the block building code refactored to make it easier to add a block (used lots of const variables rather than putting the building number everywhere) There are some new weapons including a .50 automatic pistol in the game. New version 38. http://sourceforge.net/projects/chaosesqueanthology/files/latest/download Direct link: http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/chaosesqueanthology/Rel_38/XonoticChaosEsqueAnthologyREL38.iso?r=&ts=1409950177&use_mirror=tenet I hope you enjoy. As always, everything is free/libre/opensource. Both media and code. Also on the DVD is included the map editor (netradiant) and other map helping programs (to make terrain from and image, or generate shapes etc) with the ChaosEsque entities added to the map editor entity menu etc. Take it for a spin. (Check out Bubbas Quake3 mapping tuts to learn the editor, they're the best.)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Internet Slowdown for net neutrality Sept. 10th
The source code is here: https://github.com/fightforthefuture/battleforthenet-widget/blob/master/widget.js. Unfortunately, they didn't use JS web labels (or put the tags in the file, but web labels were invented for minified scripts) to document the license.
[Trisquel-users] SystemD (I like old sysv, I hope some tech distros stay sysv (or bsd init)). Grsecurity vs Security Update Treadmill
Is Trisquel going the systemd way? Debian has (without even so much as a GeneralResolution, and with much banning of systemd detractors from their mailing list to let any dissenters know who's in charge (Just Like ArchLinux!)) but I hope some linux distros stay true to the traditional ways. ---Core-Group--- Linux user base has expanded way beyond the techies and sysadmins who created (and still create) it. Where once there were say 100,000 people working on linux, all who either liked or were accepting of the old unix ways, now there are millions of people who use linux and who don't care or who like other ways. But there is still that 100,000 people. Just because more people have been added doesn't mean that that old group should be kicked to the curb by all distributions. ---Unix-Work-Alike--- There still should be strict unix-work-alike distributions. I ask that Trisquel stay and be a refuge for those who like unix style and do not like systemd style. For those who do not want to learn a new thing and wrack their brain. For those who wish to just enjoy computing. Also, systemd controls your diskcrypto along with 100s of other things. (Though with intel VPro (VT now?) your hardware including ram is allready hardware backdoored so... Well why add to the pile anyway with systemd or other overly new and overly complex software who's developers have a strong authoritarian streak that they don't even attempt to hide?) I like the unixy way, not the other way. Up to now I use debian-wheezy usually on many computers, and am sticking with it on some (even made backups of all the disks and sources just incase I need to keep with it), and am not going for jessie. I need a new distro, I can't have that monster. Wheezy even has concurrent sysv bootup, so it's fast (but I disable almost all services anyway, I don't want anything, anything, running out of my control). Can trisquel be the unix-like free go-to distribution from now on? No systemd; just sysv or bsd style light weight init? ---Grsecurity-Patched-Kernel---Off-Of-Security-Update-Treadmill--- (And ofcourse no gnome3, Nothing wrong with old code. Even for security fix tredmill often all you need is Grsecurity secured kernel and a buffer overflow will terminate the process, not give shell or execute code: In many cases the secure hardened kernel will provide umbrella security (ofcourse this may be why the systemd developers aim to get into the kernel too with kdbus)). It looks to me that constant security updates in ancillary programs (not the kernel) are used this day as a hook to push in all kinds of unwanted advances, to force upgrades. This is not a necessary model. Many such security holes are prevented by Grsecurity, the few that are down to seriously bad logic can be patched by hand and are much fewer and farther between than the run of the mill stuff like buffer overflow -> execution. ---Gtk2-Era-Golden-Age--- I ask for a foot to be put down, For the techies to take back a part of the linux scape. The pre systemd, pre-gnome3 (gtk2 was and is fine), software ecosytem is fine. It has myriads of programs, everything needed, and we have the source to it all. Why not just preserve and fork off the whole thing. That could be done by cloning the debian-wheezy apt-sources tree. It pretty much has everything known to man, and is all from the now-setting golden age of OUR linux. I got it on DVD for that reason. There are enough people in the free software world for two ecosystems to exist. There can be the politically motivated / strong arm / lead you by the nose gtk3/systemd/gnome3 platform and it can spiral into oblivion. Then there can be the stable gtk2/sysv/bsd-init classic, solid, LEGACY (and yes, I mean that in a good way) GNU/Linux that we own and champion. ---My-Experiences-As-A-Programmer/Dev--- Ill tell you my experience. Some time ago Xonotic was, in my opinion, going off the deep end. There was one developer named Samual who had pretty much come from nothing to have become the dictator of Xonotic. I myself had been at the edge of the Xonotic community from the very start, and I had for years previous been in the Nexuiz community (from which Xonotic forked), first mapping, then learning the ways of QuakeC. When Xonotic started to make huge changes to its codebase needlessly (Samuals doing) all the while rejecting any new contributions (And this is a Video Game - Needless Code Churn is bad == crashes. New weapons/vehicles within the existing framework is good) it became hard to keep up with. Then Samual had the idea that it would be best to remove the current playemodels and replace them with genderless robots, for political reasons. I forked. I found it much much much more enjoyable to have a stable codebase. I could fix quakec crashing bugs (and I did), I could develop new fun game things, and my brain wasn't being fried
Re: [Trisquel-users] NSA able to target offline computers using radio-waves for surveillance
It's called VPro / VT. There is no way around it as far as I know. Even if you disable it it can be re-enabled remotely You are a user, They are your system admin. Better not believe or profess beliefs against the current system. Example: Men get life in prison for the fact that they like young girls (something totally fine in the old testament, in islam, in vedic religion, any religion more than 200 years old). That is the system we live under. And they can check your RAM at any time via VPro to see if you disobeyed their commands. If your mind is rebellious. If you are not one of them. They own us. We do not own ourselves. If we disobey them we are put in prison. If we resist we are executed on the spot. That's how it is, That is how it always was. Perhaps someone into hardware integration can shed more light. Like the ThinkPenguin guys? I really wish VPro/VT could be removed because AMD laptops just run so damn hot on linux (from my experiance). Now what can I buy? Nothing? Secure. Doesn't Burn Pants Off. Pick one?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Updates: Opensource/Free FPS standalone mod of Xonotic (ChaosEsque)
You are awesome, honestly. I wish I could test it; unfortunately, my old little laptop can't handle it. Including good and well known developing tools is a smart move. Perhaps this question is stupi but, are the editors free as in freedom software? Thank you.
[Trisquel-users] Re : SystemD (I like old sysv, I hope some tech distros stay sysv (or bsd init)). Grsecurity vs Security Update Treadmill
systemd is free software. I see no relation whatsoever with Intel VPro. It is tens of small binaries working together (UNIX philosophy). SysV init is not simple (a bunch of interdependent Shell scripts, spaghetti-style), nor efficient (parallelization efforts did not lead to much improvement; compare to systemd or even Upstart), nor secure (what about cgroups?), nor easy to debug (logs are all formatted differently). However systemd does require to learn a different (and coherent: a nice dependence tree) way to administrate the services. Trisquel already uses GNOME 3 (in the default edition) and will use systemd since Debian and Ubuntu will as well. Read this thread: https://trisquel.info/fr/forum/systemd You can switch to FreeSlack: http://freeslack.net/ grsecurity is a 122,701-line long patch that the kernel developers do not accept for that reason. You say you want something simple? There already is a fork of GNOME 2: http://mate-desktop.org/
[Trisquel-users] Re : NSA able to target offline computers using radio-waves for surveillance
He is back. Let us ignore him. Please.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Diaspora*
digitalrof...@diaspora.unprism.me
Re: [Trisquel-users] Diaspora*
digitalrof...@diaspora.unprism.me
Re: [Trisquel-users] NSA able to target offline computers using radio-waves for surveillance
Projects like that have to start somehwere, that said it will probably be a few years before it will really be viable and easy to run for the majority of users.
Re: [Trisquel-users] NSA able to target offline computers using radio-waves for surveillance
Please point out the untrue statements. Let me tell you something, Magic Banana, if I came to you and I said somethings, some true but some lies, just to get a rise out of you, that would be trolling. If I came to you and gave my honest opinion or relay some facts and you, Magic Banana, do not like my opinion or do not believe the facts, that is not trolling. That is just us as enemies who don't want the same things in life. Enemies (of, perhaps, the ideological kind), Not Trolls. Do you understand the difference. Mr Banana?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem with steraming video
Essentially that is how I see it, if the video is unplayable in Free software then it isn't worth watching in the first place.
Re: [Trisquel-users] NSA able to target offline computers using radio-waves for surveillance
Please point out the untrue statements of my previous post then. Let me tell you something, Magic Banana, if I came to you and I said some things, some true but some lies, just to get a rise out of you, that would be trolling. If I came to you and gave my honest opinion or relay some facts and you, Magic Banana, do not like my opinion or do not believe the facts, that is not trolling. That is just us as enemies who don't want the same things in life. Enemies (of, perhaps, the ideological kind), Not Trolls. Do you understand the difference. Mr Banana?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Updates: Opensource/Free FPS standalone mod of Xonotic (ChaosEsque)
Yes, The editors are free (GPL licensed). The game might run if you have 4GB of ram. The settings can be turned down. Clicking on the Low button in the video settings area might work. In an older laptop I had the menu on some themes were slow, the solution there was to use a diff theme with a 1024x768 background rather than the 2000+x standard background. It was only the menu that was slow in that case, the card couldn't handle that one texture. (All other images in the game are 1024x or below so should work fine) I think I might add such a theme as an option in next release if there is room enough on the DVD. I'll have to see how well it compresses. But try it out and fiddle with settings. I also remeber there were engine settings that could bring improvements on older intel cards (I use an intel card to dev the game).
Re: [Trisquel-users] SystemD (I like old sysv, I hope some tech distros stay sysv (or bsd init)). Grsecurity vs Security Update Treadmill
Systemd is a hypervisor that is always running. SysV, more or less, only runs at start up (it still runs, but only reaps zombies after that etc, very light weight, don't have to worry about security issues) GRSecurity folks know more about computer security than many of the idiots mucking up the kernel these days, which includes a fame-seeking woman of all things (USB3 maintainer). I hate you systemd people. I really really do. I hope, by some miracle, your kind are excised from the earth. You force everyone to use your CRAP. You turn linux from a unix like OS into something else. And you force us all to learn your upstart garbage. FUCK you. (Is it ok if I say that here?) I pray you burn in hell for that, somehow. It is clear that trisquel doesn't really do development if it matters what debian and ubuntu uses. It must be just a tag-along distro like other debian blends. Back when I joined the linux ecosystem such things were not called distros. Again, If I may say it: Fuck You. And your systemd. I really hate that you scum are taking over linux and forcing us. I fucking hate you pieces of shit. Linux used to be about choice and freedom. SystemD and the worthless hipsters that promote it take away that choice. You make everything rely on your garbage when it does not have to. Linux used to be fun. You are ruining it. There needs to be a separation. As I said. Or there needs to be a real fight. Fists or worse. You shouldn't be allowed to commandeer everything, to ruin what people of the past created just because they are inattentive now.
Re: [Trisquel-users] SystemD (I like old sysv, I hope some tech distros stay sysv (or bsd init)). Grsecurity vs Security Update Treadmill
"(Though with intel VPro (VT now?) your hardware including ram is allready hardware backdoored so..." I've heard sysD is backdoored as well. "Also, systemd controls your diskcrypto along with 100s of other things." This really bothers me, we already have proprietary microcode, and M$ processors are being built to weaken randomization introducing a jitter into the salting process of crypto. These things cannot be easily dismissed, it is already known that these "agencies" have been working to subvert crypto for decades, including intentionally weakening NIST standards with their flawed curves. They are also known to work hand in hand with M$, and this so called "private corporation" actively works to create decryption technologies, and are no friend to privacy. I don't know anyone who pays attention to security, that believes Windows is not backdoored. Where is this push for sysD coming from? Why is concern treated with banishment, derision, or downright silence? Is this the way of freedom I hear so often bandied about? Where is the users choice in all this? (and please do not tell me to build my own OS) also: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTc3OTM
Re: [Trisquel-users] Munich gives up on GNU/Linux and free/open source software
BTW http://linux-beta.slashdot.org/story/14/09/05/1711243/why-munich-will-stick-with-linux Not over?
[Trisquel-users] Re : SystemD (I like old sysv, I hope some tech distros stay sysv (or bsd init)). Grsecurity vs Security Update Treadmill
Systemd is a hypervisor (...) And [systemd people] force us all to learn your upstart garbage. With that level of expertise, no matter why your only arguments are insults. Let us ignore him. Please.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Help installing Libreboot and dependencies
I'll definitely send him an email.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem with steraming video
Has Gnash improved at all?
[Trisquel-users] Re : SystemD (I like old sysv, I hope some tech distros stay sysv (or bsd init)). Grsecurity vs Security Update Treadmill
systemd is free software: show us the backdoor. Trisquel copies from Ubuntu almost all its free software packages. Blobs are proprietary software. systemd is free software. Maintaining another init system is such a big work that even the Debian community recognizes it cannot do in the long run. Canonical even decided to abandon Upstart (the init system it used to develop) in favor of systemd. There are many reasons for abandoning SysV init: it is messy, slow, insecure, designed for static hardware only, etc. As for the silence, I prefer not to communicate with people who only have FUD and insults to serve. Neither you nor chaosesqueteam seem to know that Trisquel has not been using SysV init for years. It uses Upstart.
Re: [Trisquel-users] SystemD (I like old sysv, I hope some tech distros stay sysv (or bsd init)). Grsecurity vs Security Update Treadmill
I agree he shouldn’t have said what he said in the way that he said it, but ostracism is so 20th century.
Re: [Trisquel-users] SystemD (I like old sysv, I hope some tech distros stay sysv (or bsd init)). Grsecurity vs Security Update Treadmill
chaosesque is probably the well-known troll named vPro
[Trisquel-users] Re : Problem with steraming video
No new release since January 2012...
[Trisquel-users] Re : SystemD (I like old sysv, I hope some tech distros stay sysv (or bsd init)). Grsecurity vs Security Update Treadmill
No doubt: https://trisquel.info/fr/forum/nsa-able-target-offline-computers-using-radio-waves-surveillance#comment-56338
Re: [Trisquel-users] SystemD (I like old sysv, I hope some tech distros stay sysv (or bsd init)). Grsecurity vs Security Update Treadmill
What is this? "BadBiosVictim"? I thought he was confined to redit.
Re: [Trisquel-users] SystemD (I like old sysv, I hope some tech distros stay sysv (or bsd init)). Grsecurity vs Security Update Treadmill
Even MR. Schneier, from whom you borrow that acronym, does not consider all of this to be "fud". I also have not insulted you, I am content to discuss.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem with steraming video
damn, It seemed like it could have become a good alternative, if the project received the support in needed. Too bad.
[Trisquel-users] Re : SystemD (I like old sysv, I hope some tech distros stay sysv (or bsd init)). Grsecurity vs Security Update Treadmill
I was referring to chaosesqueteam's insults. Any link to what Bruce Schneier says in favor of SysV init? I searched "systemd" and "init" on https://www.schneier.com but no relevant result seemed to be listed. Bruce Schneier does not appear to have invented the acronym FUD: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt#Definition
Re: [Trisquel-users] Internet Slowdown for net neutrality Sept. 10th
CISPA is back by th way...
[Trisquel-users] IceCat donations go where?
I've donated in the past, in hopes of keeping the IceCat project, and Name alive. In the past my donations have gone to the FSF, however it seems someone here has taken over development of the project, and the last version available on gnu.org, or the mirrors is 24 (24-Oct-2013). Where, and to whom should donations be sent? I also encourage others to contribute to the project.
Re: [Trisquel-users] SystemD (I like old sysv, I hope some tech distros stay sysv (or bsd init)). Grsecurity vs Security Update Treadmill
"Any link to what Bruce Schneier says in favor of SysV init? I searched "systemd" and "init" on https://www.schneier.com but no relevant result seemed to be listed." No, I wasn't referring to systemd, those rumors are unconfirmed. I was relating the history of "agencies", and M$'s crypto subversion to him. "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt#Definition"; I stand corrected then.
[Trisquel-users] Re : IceCat donations go where?
quidam is both Trisquel's lead developer and IceCat's one. I guess you could donate to the Trisquel project. How about becoming a member? Here is the link: http://trisquel.info/member
Re: [Trisquel-users] Freeslack (a little off topic)
Ubnfortunately I'm going to be the lazy one here waiting for someone to come up with a resulting distro.which is a very exciting prospect!
[Trisquel-users] Re : SystemD (I like old sysv, I hope some tech distros stay sysv (or bsd init)). Grsecurity vs Security Update Treadmill
No, I wasn't referring to systemd, those rumors are unconfirmed. I was relating the history of "agencies", and M$'s crypto subversion to him. About that: I agree. You could have mentioned NSA's Bullrun program too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullrun_%28decryption_program%29
Re: [Trisquel-users] SystemD (I like old sysv, I hope some tech distros stay sysv (or bsd init)). Grsecurity vs Security Update Treadmill
I don't fully understand the technical issues, but, systemd makes every alarm bell in me ring long and loud. Instinct says that Mr Poettering is going to turn out to be another Miguel de Icaza. I would prefer to not have systemd imposed upon me until it gets to the point where it's finished as a project, is still 100% open and libre and has been thoroughly audited, tested, lost at the airport, sent half way round the world and back and then been crushed beneath the wheels of a big truck and come out from it all unscathed and still functional. I have heard some things - perhaps they're just silly rumours (I said I don't get the depths of the technical side) - that systemd will provide the perfect cover for rootkits and other compromises because it will be able to hide processes from root and will be able to select what is logged and what is not. If that is the case then systemd should be taken out and shot. Mr Poettering wishes to make Linux a fully self updating, self monitoring OS. I'm not sure that's what I want and even if it really is a better way of doing things, I don't like the way systemd has been implemented and I greatly appreciate "the Unix idea" of one program written to do one thing and do it well and not reinventing the wheel every few years.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem with steraming video
There's also Lightspark, but even that is only getting sporadic updates in the Git repo: https://lightspark.github.io/
Re: [Trisquel-users] Problem with steraming video
Actually, it seems Gnash was getting commits to its Git repo fairly regularly until a couple months ago: http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/gnash.git/log/
Re: [Trisquel-users] IceCat donations go where?
My understanding is that IceCat will appear on ftp.gnu.org at some future point, once everything is sorted out.
[Trisquel-users] Re : SystemD (I like old sysv, I hope some tech distros stay sysv (or bsd init)). Grsecurity vs Security Update Treadmill
One can consider that Miguel de Icaza turned to the dark side. To some extent, I agree. Did that make GNOME a bad desktop (for those who dislike GNOME 3: Miguel de Icaza left GNOME before the actual development of GNOME 3)? One can consider that Lennart Poettering is antipathetic and arrogant. To some extent, I agree. Does that make systemd a bad init system? If you want to read about Lennart Poettering's grand vision of how GNU/Linux should technically be, here it is: http://0pointer.net/blog/revisiting-how-we-put-together-linux-systems.html And here is the famous "biggest myths" about systemd (including "systemd is not UNIX"): http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/the-biggest-myths.html
Re: [Trisquel-users] SystemD (I like old sysv, I hope some tech distros stay sysv (or bsd init)). Grsecurity vs Security Update Treadmill
"systemd myths debunked": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvy0e9kbAos "The Biggest Myths": http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/the-biggest-myths I don't pay attention to the talk about the init system much, because frankly, it isn't something that concerns me. I guess the switches to systemd and upstart are why Ubuntu and Fedora based systems started booting up faster some time ago? That's just conjecture on my part, though. Having used Fedora recently, and currently being a user of Trisquel, I certainly haven't been negatively affected by systemd or Upstart. But it sounds to me like most people who claim systemd to be problematic either don't know anything about it or are simply having a case of baby duck syndrome.
Re: [Trisquel-users] SystemD (I like old sysv, I hope some tech distros stay sysv (or bsd init)). Grsecurity vs Security Update Treadmill
Very well said salparadise, 5 star post. That pretty much sums up my impression of the whole thing. "Poettering wishes to make Linux a fully self updating, self monitoring OS." If this was the case back when I started using GNU/Linux, I would have learned Nothing about how the system works, or how to solve problems.
Re: [Trisquel-users] NSA able to target offline computers using radio-waves for surveillance
So basically, trisquel is useless when it comes to privacy? Not at all. But neither should it be viewed as a one size fits all solution for all your privacy/security problems. It's a step in the right direction. But there are still the issues of ISP's mandated by law to keep records of what you do online and paranoid, dishonest Governments and their barely controllable 'alphabet agencies'. Not to mention that which represents our biggest threat - the Corporations. If we don't bring the Corporations to heel and soon, the future is going to be a lot less pleasant than it could be.
Re: [Trisquel-users] SystemD (I like old sysv, I hope some tech distros stay sysv (or bsd init)). Grsecurity vs Security Update Treadmill
If you want to read about Lennart Poettering's grand vision of how GNU/Linux should technically be, here it is: Yep, I read that a few days ago. It's quite frustrating to have a brain that just doesn't get code and so doesn't appreciate the finer points raised in such discussions. I will admit that the majority of what I hear about systemd is good, but then the same applies to Apple products and I know that that's just hype and advertising spiel. But, speed of boot is no standard to aspire to. It's really not important. Pandering to it indicates that Linux is selling its soul to the "give me convenience on my terms or I'll go elsewhere" crowd (as evidenced by other trends on display). My understanding is that granular control and the user remaining in power was the whole point of GNU/Linux, so anything that detracts from that position is a step backwards. Sooner or later I have to surrender to those with a superior understanding of the issues, but that doesn't stop me feeling instinctively wary. So I'll be biding my time until the issue is either clearly resolved or it becomes a case of 'use BSD or accept systemd'.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Freeslack (a little off topic)
I suspect you'll be in for a long wait. Though it would be great to see it become a stand alone distro. I'd do it myself but I wouldn't know where to start and would almost certainly quickly come up against things that were orders of magnitude above my current knowledge level. Time was that I used Grub1 without a config file - I just typed the necessary strings into the grub console to boot (awesome level of local security). But then Grub2 came out and they had complicated the process by changing to great long alpha-numeric strings to indicate drives and there was no way I could memorise such strings so I stopped using that method and the knowledge, no longer in use, fell into the blackhole of memory. There's a world of difference between "we improved the process but it requires more complexity" on the one hand and "we changed the process and unnecessarily complicated it" on the other. Splitting a config file into several smaller versions and scattering them about doesn't seem to be anything other than plain stupid to me. But then, it's arguably dangerous to criticise technical decisions when you don't fully understand the thinking behind them. Let's just say, to this day I've yet to hear an explanation for the changes to grub that make me think "oh, that's OK then", the ones I've heard so far are like the ones surrounding systemd "it's good and if you don't know why you're a fool and should shut up".
