Re: [Trisquel-users] Tor browsing in Trisquel 7 is a BAD idea

2014-11-02 Thread nux
I'll tell you what beats the NSA - standing up and realising that you're not  
doing anything wrong, even in speaking out against Government murders and  
lies.
It's not for us to feel we have to hide from them. It is they who need to  
hide from us. Their whole reality is built around the notion that we're all  
stupid, they're all clever and they must oversee and monitor us. I do not  
accept this.
Governments, especially the US and UK ones, are deeply compromised with  
stupidity and pocket lining - I see no one in either Administration fit to  
tell the likes of us what we should and should not be doing online.
TOR seems to be about hiding from such people. I don't wish to hide from  
them, I wish to challenge them.


[Trisquel-users] Resolution problem

2014-11-02 Thread thomas

Hello,

I have problem with Trisquel 7, 32 bits.

I have Dell Inspiron 6400 laptop. The maximum resolution is 1280x800, but i  
can't choice this resolution. I have 2 choices 800x600 and 1024x768.


I don't have this problem on Trisquel 6.
The videocard is ATI x1400.

I tried to modify xorg.conf but the computer restart in console mode.
I tried to update linux-libre but i lost wifi.
I tried to install resolution changer but i can't add this one to the menu  
bar.


lspci -vmmnn :

Slot:   01:00.0
Class:  VGA compatible controller [0300]
Vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] [1002]
Device: RV515/M54 [Mobility Radeon X1400] [7145]
SVendor:Dell [1028]
SDevice:Device [2003]

Thank you very much !


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel on a iMac?

2014-11-02 Thread knut . erik

Just to let you know. Trisquel on my iMac (2008).
After trying the live cd properly I decided to wipe osx and install Trisquel  
on the HD. So far so good Tx to the developers/maintainers of  
Debian/Ubuntu and Trisquel.




trisquel-imac
description: Computer
width: 64 bits
capabilities: vsyscall32
  *-core
   description: Motherboard
   physical id: 0
 *-memory
  description: System memory
  physical id: 0
  size: 3936MiB
 *-cpu
  product: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8435  @ 3.06GHz
  vendor: Intel Corp.
  physical id: 1
  bus info: cpu@0
  size: 800MHz
  capacity: 800MHz
  width: 64 bits


[Trisquel-users] libgtk-3-dev - unmet dependencies on install

2014-11-02 Thread knut . erik

Hi,

Trying to install GTK+ v3 on my Trisquel installation, however the install  
result in a unmet dependencies for libpango1.0-dev and libcairo2-dev.


Anybody with a clue?

//Install
sudo apt-get install libgtk-3-dev  (Which should be suffient)

//Result
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 libgtk-3-dev : Depends: libpango1.0-dev (= 1.30.0) but it is not going to  
be installed

Depends: libcairo2-dev (= 1.10.0) but it is not going to be installed



Re: [Trisquel-users] Toutatis Brightness control

2014-11-02 Thread santiago . lorente
It does work. Now I do not know whether I did it right or wrong first time I  
tried, but the thing is it does work.


I mean I do
sudo chown jane:jane /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness

And then
echo 500  /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness
and it works ok

So then I tried again to make it work through keyboard shortcuts. I managed  
to create keyboard shortcuts (using System Settings  Keyboard) for other  
applications but it does not work for


echo 500  /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness

I don't know why.

But I'm happy with what I have, now I can change the brightness and that's  
enough for me. So we can leave it here, unless it's fun for you, or we can  
contribute to a general fix that can be helpful to more people.


Thanks once more


Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel-mini performances

2014-11-02 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
Regarding how packages end up in Trisquel, they mostly come from upstream  
which is ubuntu and debian.


See https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/how-trisquel-made

If you're willing and able to package and maintain some free program, you're  
probably welcome to do so.


The very lightest setup can be made starting from a minimal netinstall but  
you need to know what to install.


[Trisquel-users] Re : Resolution problem

2014-11-02 Thread lcerf
If I properly understand the page 157 of  
ftp://ftp.dell.com/Manuals/Common/inspiron-6400x_owner%27s%20manual_en-us.pdf  
then your processor includes an Intel 945 GM graphical chipset. If you can  
use it, you will have much better performances (including 3D acceleration,  
video decoding acceleration, etc.) for a reduced power consumption. One way i  
to physically remove the AMD video card.


But check first that you indeed have the Intel graphical chipset. The 'lspci'  
command should list it.


[Trisquel-users] GTK+ 3.0 Scrollbars

2014-11-02 Thread go . busto

Hello all,

I've written a simple Tk/Python program that allows you to adjust the delay  
before zoom mode is activated for scrollbars in GTK+ 3 applications:


https://gitorious.org/gtk-scrollfix/gtk-scrollfix

While it doesn't seem to be possible to disable this feature completely,  
setting the activation delay to a fairly high value (such as 30 seconds)  
will have much the same effect.


Hopefully the Gnome Tweak Tool will allow you to change this at some point,  
but perhaps someone will find this useful in the interim.


Re: [Trisquel-users] No add-ons page in IceCat

2014-11-02 Thread superdude83
On Trisquel 7 RC Icecat addon page is indeed missing. Gnash doesn't work.  
Duckduckgo and some other websites behave funny..
What I did is - removed icecat. installed noscript, adblock edge, https  
everywhere. Modified manually the user agent. I did the panopticlick test  
(panopticlick.eff.org) on both icecat and abrowser. On the default iceacat I  
got 19. After I tweaked a little my Abrowser I got 8.4 !!!

As Montgomery says - excellent...
Here is a link you can use to get a picture of how you set your user agent

http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=24722

A lot of good stuff on that website..

nd here is a link with Montgomery sayin excellent  ..  :-)

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MWJDzvrnu7Y/TTcXpCWZerI/AWY/zxu1GwrIBz0/s1600/excellent-mr-burns.gif


Re: [Trisquel-users] Toutatis Brightness control

2014-11-02 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
It's fun! :) And perhaps somebody else with a similar problem finds this  
thread.


Ah, I guess the redirect (the ) might again be causing trouble...

The fix is fortunately easy, just open the text editor of your preference and  
put that command there and save the file somewhere. Then we need to make the  
file executable, that's done with the commandchmod +x  
/path/to/the/fileFinally point the shortcut key to that file.


To automate the chown thing, you need to open a text editor as a super user.  
(Prepend the name of the editor with sudo in case of CLI editors and with  
gksudo in case of graphical editors, e.g. sudo nano or gksudo gedit) Then  
save this script to /etc/rc2.d/S99-brightness


#! /bin/sh
### BEGIN INIT INFO
# Provides:  easy access to brightness control
# Required-Start:$all
# Required-Stop:
# Default-Start: 2
# Default-Stop:
# Short-Description: Make brightness user writeable
### END INIT INFO
chown jane:jane /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness

And make it executablechmod +x /etc/rc2.d/S99-brightness

Now the next time you boot you should find yourself the owner of the  
brightness file.


If you want we can make you two scripts that incrementally increase and  
decrease brightness like things work normally that you can bind to the  
related buttons/key combos.


Re: [Trisquel-users] libgtk-3-dev - unmet dependencies on install

2014-11-02 Thread Sachin
use
sudo aptitude install libgtk-3-dev


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 7: how to install compiz?

2014-11-02 Thread davesamcdxv
Having finally gotten around to trying it: Here's the answer: By using the  
packages meant for Trisquel 6:


So open (with sudo) the /etc/apt/sources.list file, and add a new line  that  
reads:

deb http://archive.trisquel.info/trisquel/ toutatis main

Then update the repos (i.e. by doing sudo apt-get update) and install compiz.

There's one problem, though, with CCSM (See screenshot). I remember seeing  
something similar in Manjaro last year (before I moved to Trisquel), though  
that might've been with Compiz 0.8.8 while the one from Trisquel 6 was 0.9.x.



Or there's a version in https://launchpad.net/~eugenesan/+archive/ubuntu/ppa  
but I didn't test that one.


[Trisquel-users] Trisquel seems to having a lot of orphanaged packages, sepecially after a fresh install.

2014-11-02 Thread lakbk89
I have recently installed Trisquel 6.0.1 on a Desktop. After Installation I  
upgraded the whole system from Terminal via $apt-get update and $apt-get  
dist-upgrade commands.


After this I gave $apt-get autoremove, a command usually used to remove  
packages which have no dependancy with any other installed package. To my  
surprise, a list consisting of somewhat between 10-25 packages seemed to be  
having no dependancies with any of installed packages(or orphanaged  
packages).


Is it safe to remove these orphanaged packages? How do the community looks at  
this issue?


I have earlier used Debian, but never faced the issue with orphanaged  
packages with it. It seems that package dependencies were not fully resolved  
while developing packages from  Ubuntu main repos.


 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 7 will be released next week.

2014-11-02 Thread superdude83

windoze is for decepticons anyways!

to comment further..

lets see - would someone rather install windbloooz and then spend a rather  
long time locking it up, installing antivirus-antimalware-antyspyware and all  
that sh.t , defragmenting the drive, optimizing registry and all kind of  
stupid useless problems . not to mention that the os and the great part of  
the programs it runs are proprietary-closed source-god knows what'ya doing  
with my data-crap!!


ooor

install a gnu/linux distro (better yet if 100% free sotware like trisquel)
and relax
and enjoy
:)


Re: [Trisquel-users] libgtk-3-dev - unmet dependencies on install

2014-11-02 Thread knut . erik

Ahh ok - tx.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Good free website hosting

2014-11-02 Thread adel . afzal

Thanks akfoss

I posted on your bug report page


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel seems to having a lot of orphanaged packages, sepecially after a fresh install.

2014-11-02 Thread jason
After this I gave $apt-get autoremove, a command usually used to remove  
packages which have no dependancy with any other installed package.


I have packages that meet this criteria on my system but I want those  
packages. So not having a dependency on another package isn't necessarily a  
useful way to determine if the package in question is actually needed or not.


Is it safe to remove these orphanaged packages?

I would say that it depends on what those packages are for and if you want  
the stuff that they do.





Re: [Trisquel-users] Resolution problem

2014-11-02 Thread legimet . calc
This is a problem with the newer AMD drivers forcing KMS, which requires  
nonfree microcode. It would be good to use the Intel chipset, but otherwise  
you can try downgrading some packages.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Tor browsing in Trisquel 7 is a BAD idea

2014-11-02 Thread sdjfhasdufh
FYI everyone the default browser in trisquel 7 is not icecat and doesn't have  
the plugins and fingerprint modification that icecat does. Its incredibly  
bad. Basically trisquel 7 has a default browser using tor (in private mode)  
that is INCORRECTLY CONFIGURED and NO WARNINGS OR INFORMATION


Magic Banana also brings up what if you favorite a website and go to it in  
clearmode (outside of private browsing)? Tor should be used in a seperate  
browser, configured correctly and used after proper warning/information has  
been provided. A seperate browser makes it less likely you'll mess up such as  
logging into a personal email in tor, or access a advocate or crimal site  
(for research or law enforcement) by accident.


But seriously why did I really have to create this thread. It only takes a  
moment to realize why tor in private mode in the way trisquel 7 does it (even  
icecat but less worse) is a TERRIBLE idea.


@andrew

 Also, this type of attack is a lot more difficult with Tor:

Its one type of attack (planting cookies by your ISP) in exchange for another  
(malicious information, links or downloads).


 The problem you are describing is a problem with many clients and servers  
not using end-to-end encryption and/or authentication.


Hence why it's especially bad to use tor when not knowing what it is


@chris

 These examples are improper uses of Tor. If users took the advice of the  
Tor project then they would not be vulnerable. This isn't a problem with the  
Tor software. It is a problem with some Tor users thinking they know better  
than the experts.


Of course it's improper use. It's bundled on software installed by default  
and a simple google query may make you believe its an open proxy. It's not  
tor users thinking they know better, its tor users who have no idea what tor  
is because you gave it to them without any information which is why I created  
this thread.





Re: [Trisquel-users] Tp link librecmc wifi router on an isp modem with public address?

2014-11-02 Thread svhaab
Thank you for your answers. They are informative and they do not write  
themselves.
Both TP-Link and other companies have begun to use this to prevent users  
from re-flashing routers
When librecmc works on tp link tl wr841nd that was not tp link's intention? 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel seems to having a lot of orphanaged packages, sepecially after a fresh install.

2014-11-02 Thread legimet . calc
autoremove removes the *automatically installed* packages that are not  
depended on by any other package. For example, if you install package A along  
with package B (as a dependency of A), and later remove A, autoremove will  
try to remove B.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Tp link librecmc wifi router on an isp modem with public address?

2014-11-02 Thread chris
TP-Link had no involvement in getting LibreCMC to work on this router. That  
was mostly the results of two projects:


1. OpenWRT (not free software though, LibreCMC is derived from OpenWRT)
2. LibreCMC (the project which we sponsor, and distribution which is derived  
from OpenWRT)

3. ThinkPenguin (we sponsor the LibreCMC project)

LibreCMC was started prior to ThinkPenguin's involvment, but was not released  
until we, ThinkPenguin, got involved and pushed things forward. One of the  
original founders and lead developers of LibeWRT (Robert Call) is involved  
and he left this other project years ago as it was going in a direction he  
didn't like. He planned to start LibreCMC. However other factors made working  
on it very difficult. Every developer needs to eat after all. In any event we  
(ThinkPenguin) basically hired him as our CTO. The project is now being  
worked on by him with our sponsoring it. We're selling the routers and  
contributing back a percentage of the profits to the project just as we do  
with Trisquel.


In any even the combination of all this is what has made LibreCMC happen.  
In order to make the project move forward we need to make as many sales of  
the routes as possible. Each router does not bring in a substantial amount of  
money and as such you need to sell a lot of routers to offset the time being  
put into it. Right now the project is bringing in less than enough to make it  
worthwhile. However- we're hopeful that'll change. Right now it's less than  
minimum wage (by US standards). Minimum wage is not really enough to live  
off. It's what you would call poverty by 1st world standards. Fortunately  
he's got other paid work.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel seems to having a lot of orphanaged packages, sepecially after a fresh install.

2014-11-02 Thread jason
It also works to remove packages I've installed because they're not depended  
on by anything else. So it's not perfect.


[Trisquel-users] How you noticed the new git repository management software of Trisquel?

2014-11-02 Thread akfoss
I just noticed the new git repository management software, which is GitLab.  
You can access in from the right navbar (navigation bar) or via this link,  
https://devel.trisquel.info/groups/trisquel


Currently registration is limited and you need to ask on IRC or send an email  
to the mailing list to get a nick.


Re: [Trisquel-users] How you noticed the new git repository management software of Trisquel?

2014-11-02 Thread jason

Yes, this part of a community-based development system.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Resolution problem

2014-11-02 Thread adel . afzal

Are all Intel graphics cards free-software-friendly?

If not, is there a list somewhere that shows which are (or are not) free  
software friendly?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Toutatis Brightness control

2014-11-02 Thread santiago . lorente

Great! Everything worked. Even after a restart. Thank you.

I did different keyboard shortcuts for different values, so it's quite handy  
now. But if you feel like posting how to do the last thing you suggested, I  
will give it a go for sure.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Toutatis Brightness control

2014-11-02 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp

Ain't tinkering wonderful?! :)

Here's script for one button (dunno if this makes it brighter of dimmer)

#!/bin/sh
file=/sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness
echo `expr $(cat $file) - 50`  $file

and here's the other

#!/bin/sh
file=/sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness
echo `expr $(cat $file) + 50`  $file

(You can try different increments besides 50.)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 7 will be released next week.

2014-11-02 Thread gary02121993

Word brah, word!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Resolution problem

2014-11-02 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
I believe the powervr based cards aren't free software friendly, here's a  
list of those  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Intel_graphics_processing_units#PowerVR_based


Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel-mini performances

2014-11-02 Thread gromobir
This issue has been reported by me over a year ago and it still persists in  
Trisquel 6 Mini. See this ticket: https://trisquel.info/en/issues/9493


I really hope it won't be an issue anymore with Trisquel 7.


Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel-mini performances

2014-11-02 Thread Andrew Lindley
Trisquel Mini 7.0 uses LightDM not LXDM so it can't have the problem.

Leny


Re: [Trisquel-users] Free software ideology compatible VPS provider

2014-11-02 Thread overbackup4

Bytemark Hosting

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bytemark_Hosting

has their own dedicated data centre (UK) and offers a 50% discount to any  
customers who publish Free Software using their network.


https://www.bytemark.co.uk/company/manifesto/

--//--

Their VPS is called BigV and a 1 month free trial is offered.

Steve Kemp, who was previously a DD and writes the site  
debian-administration.org , was an employee of theirs.


( Disc* I am in no way affiliated with Bytemark Hosting )


[Trisquel-users] Does trisquel run on many Chromebooks?

2014-11-02 Thread sdjfhasdufh
Does trisquel run on many chromebooks? This link says the chromebook pixel  
(very high end) works https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/chromebook but doesn't  
mention anything else. Are there any popular chromebooks that trisquel has no  
problems running on? If it works on a version of debian (not ubuntu bc i know  
they use non free drivers) would trisquel work on it? Do most/all google made  
chromebooks work? It appears samsung, acer and HP are popular does trisquel  
work on any of them? 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel seems to having a lot of orphanaged packages, sepecially after a fresh install.

2014-11-02 Thread legimet . calc
No it doesn't. It only removes those that were previously installed as a  
dependency of another package, but no longer are depended on by any package.  
If you install a package manually, autoremove won't remove it.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Does trisquel run on many Chromebooks?

2014-11-02 Thread adel . afzal

I have wondered about this recently too


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel seems to having a lot of orphanaged packages, sepecially after a fresh install.

2014-11-02 Thread jason
No it doesn't. It only removes those that were previously installed as a  
dependency of another package, but no longer are depended on by any package.  
If you install a package not as a dependency of another package, autoremove  
won't remove it.


If you say. That doesn't match my experience though. I became tired of always  
re-installing it and put the packages on hold to prevent their removal.


Anyway, the thing that matters you should always look through the list and  
see if you really want to remove the packages, because you might still want  
to keep something.


Which was precisely my original message. Thanks for confirming that.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel seems to having a lot of orphanaged packages, sepecially after a fresh install.

2014-11-02 Thread legimet . calc

I was basically restating what's in the manpage (which is a :

autoremove is used to remove packages that were automatically installed to  
satisfy dependencies for other packages and are now no longer needed.


If it doesn't behave that way, just report a bug :)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Does trisquel run on many Chromebooks?

2014-11-02 Thread Andrew Roffey
Trisquel won't run on any of the ARM-based (e.g. Exynos, NVIDIA)
Chromebooks as it is x86-only.

I believe you might have to change the BIOS settings to use Developer
Mode in order to delete Chrome OS and install Trisquel on the Chromebook.

There is a thread from last year on the Acer C7 model specifically:
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/acer-c7-chromebook-updates

Muhammed just posted a wiki page which might be worth reading/watching
for updates:
https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/chromebook

Search might help as well:
https://trisquel.info/en/search/node/chromebook

Andrew


Re: [Trisquel-users] Does trisquel run on many Chromebooks?

2014-11-02 Thread adel . afzal
I edited that page today when I saw it linked in Jimmy's post.  It looks  
(from the date next to my name) like I just posted it today, but it has been  
up since I noticed mYself's posts about Chromebooks probably a few months  
ago.


I added a link to this topic from that wiki page; Jimmy's question is an  
important one I think.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel seems to having a lot of orphanaged packages, sepecially after a fresh install.

2014-11-02 Thread lakbk89
I would suggest there be a mechanism to resolve dependencies when the system  
is upgraded.


If what Update Manager does is simple apt-get dist-upgrade, chances are that  
the system will accumulate with unresolved dependencies over the course of  
time. It would be safe to build a dependency tree, similar to what debian  
does, before packages are updated so that unresolved dependencies can be  
removed in the first place.


Maintaining orphanaged packages as pointed out by jxself can be beneficial in  
one way, but for a stable OS distro like Trisquel, it is always advised to  
have resolve all dependencies so that the system remains robust.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel seems to having a lot of orphanaged packages, sepecially after a fresh install.

2014-11-02 Thread andrew
I recognise some of the orphaned packages after a fresh Trisquel install as  
stuff Ubiquity uses from looking at its source for a bug in 6.0.  So I guess  
i might be stuff it doesn't self remove just in case.  Whatever, an apt-get  
autoremove of them has never given me any problems.


The Update Manager upgrade process last time I used it was again the same as  
Ubuntu's with modifications to the package lists and deleted all the cruft  
and orphan packages.  I haven't tested the 6.0.1 - 7.0 upgrade yet, but I  
don't imagine it'll be any different once bedded in.


apt-get autoremove is to my observations as legimet and the man page says.   
However, having used first Debian then Ubuntu then Trisquel since around 2001  
I have seen something like the situation jxself mentions from using both  
aptitude and apt-get.  I don't know whether it's something like and aptitude  
install followed by an apt-get remove doesn't remove the additional suggests  
installs or not for certain, but that's what I thought at the time.  


[Trisquel-users] How do I access my system from another computer?

2014-11-02 Thread gary02121993
I'm thinking of just bringing Tails and flash drives to where I'm going today  
so I don't have to bring my laptop (need a break bringing my bag, my back  
kinda hurts -_-). How do I access my system from outside or remotely (the  
place I'm going is in the same place/city)? 


Re: [Trisquel-users] How do I access my system from another computer?

2014-11-02 Thread blade . vp2020

Use ssh