Re: [Trisquel-users] New Updates: Opensource/Free FPS standalone mod of Xonotic (ChaosEsque) version 42 etc.
Sorry, I have to disagree: Believe it or not, there are very good games in the free software world and Battle For Westnoth, Megaglest, The Mana World, Colobot Gold, Nethack, Openarena, The Dark Mod, Freedoom, 0.A.D, Sthendal, Powermanga, Redeclipse and Aleph One are examples of good free as in freedom games (At least the source code).
[Trisquel-users] Stallman uses Trisquel GNU/Linux for computation.
Howdy, fellow trisquel hackers? I am an avid follower of Richard M Stallman and Free Software Foundation, in perticular. These days, RMS is using a Thinkpad X60 computer with a free initialization program (libreboot) and 'Free as in Freespeech' Trisquel GNU/Linux to carryout his daily chores. https://www.stallman.org/stallman-computing.html I submit this story as a tribute to Trisquel GNU/Linux community.
Re: [Trisquel-users] LibertyBSD - OpenBSD minus the blobs
Okay, thanks. It's annoying, but still do-able.
Re: [Trisquel-users] GNOME does not work properly with my Trisquel 7
I think the problem is in your graphics card glxinfo | grep OpenGL Send me a result of this command (if you can) Fervi
[Trisquel-users] Installing libreboot on a Thinkpad T60....myself?
Hey guys, i didn't buy a gluglug but a normal T60 (i would have loved to buy a gluglug but money is quite a problem at the moment and I needed a working laptop really fast...) and I think about installing libreboot myself. Is there somebody with information / experience on this? How difficult is it and how big are the risks of bricking my device?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Software Replacement on Trisquel
i use unar because of the subs that come often with that format and if i try any file with two or more words, try to unar it - nothing! i have to rename every file to be a single word and i just name it a.rar , b.rar ... and then it works.. weeeird
Re: [Trisquel-users] Software Replacement on Trisquel
You need to escape spaces with a backslash or it'll be interpreted as several arguments. For example: unar My\ file\ that\ has\ spaces.rar
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing libreboot on a Thinkpad T60....myself?
http://www.libreboot.org/gitdocs/install/ i...@gluglug.org.uk (mail) do it do it do it :)
[Trisquel-users] Hosting large files distributed gratis to all comers
chaosesquet...@yahoo.com wrote: (The dev environment doesn't seem to download from sf.net, anyone know of a host that can handle 17 GB files) Consider archive.org.
Re: [Trisquel-users] GNOME does not work properly with my Trisquel 7
What exactly lags? GNOME is a huge project with dozens of component programs.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Cant install trisquel
i installed lilo and all is fine now if anyone knows how to deleate posts i will deleat this one!
Re: [Trisquel-users] stallman's speech
dude use minitube simple as that sudo apt-get install minitube yes?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Wine is broken
You may mark solved as I have my solution.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Best Libre os for a old computer?
That seems like a very old computer. Congratulations for the considerate spirit of anti-consumerism. I don't think that much modern graphical software is developed targeting systems with a small RAM capacity such as 12 MB (or MiB). Running old software is also problematic because it's unmaintained, so you would be on your own for the problems you may find if you used versions of the software contemporary to your computer. I suggest that you ask for suggestions in the X11 mailing lists; they may help you to tune a graphical setup to minimize resource usage. You can also run a modern environment with a console setup; any general purpose GNU/Linux distribution can do that, such as Trisquel. Some GNU/Linux distributions target small systems, such as the FSF-approved LibreCMC and LibreWRT (I haven't used them); maybe you can use them or ask in their communication channels for recommendations. They're likely to know about how to run on limited hardware. However, I think that the issue is mainly about which software packages you install and how they're configured, rather than which distribution you use. Bear in mind that some software compiled for x86 may need instructions not present on your computer. That software will crash in your computer (The CPU interrupts the kernel for an invalid exception and the kernel terminates the program. I don' know what would happen if the kernel attempts to execute an invalid instruction, however). If so, you will need to re-compile that software. I think that computers have been getting more energy efficient since their appeared. For doing intensive computation (Such as compiling a large program), it will be more energy efficient to do so in a modern computer than the old compute you're talking about. I mention this because you're concerned about wasting. Instead of installing from a floppy disk you can try booting from the hard disk. Bear in mind that initiating but not finishing an installation may make your system unbootable, so you may end using a floppy disk anyway. I wrote a message where I gave pointers about how to install from the hard disk, but I can't find it. I pointed to the manual of installing Debian (Trisquel is indirectly based on Debian). See https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/index.html and search for “hard disk”.
[Trisquel-users] Best Libre os for a old computer?
hello i have a netbook(sadly running win95) and i am trying to install a free operating system on it the only problem is... it is max out at 12mb ram with a 33mhz prosessor 256mb hard drive and pcmcia externel floppy disk drive dose anyone know of free os that will run on this machine? that preferably can be installed by floppy disk? i am willing to not use a gui btw if you wondering why i want to use this computer its becuase i dont like wasting computers and i most likley would beable to run a text editor and c compiler on it(what more do you need in life...)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Some general questions about Trisquel
What Trisquel uses by default is now called Flashback, not Fallback (as of GNOME 3.8, I think). Support duration really has nothing to do with the size of the Trisquel team; keep in mind that Trisquel is based on Ubuntu and benefits from all the work done by Canonical on Ubuntu. Trisquel releases are supported for the same amount of time as the Ubuntu releases they're based on.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Best Libre os for a old computer?
You could install Trisquel without a desktop environment (by doing a net-install). I don't know if the amount of space taken up by a base install is too much for a 256 MB hard drive or a floppy disk, but anyway, it's something you could try.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Stallman uses Trisquel GNU/Linux for computation.
I think it's still Trisquel 6 because he's still using LibreOffice 3 on this picture last Dec 27, 2014 at 313c. However, feel free to correct me on this one.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Stallman uses Trisquel GNU/Linux for computation.
Its too bad he doesn't specify if he was using 6 or 7 of Trisquel.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6: updates break GRUB
Fixed in version 1.99-21ubuntu3.17+6.0.1trisquel5
[Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6: updates break GRUB
After installing updates to trisquel 6, GRUB will no longer load Trisquel 6. Previous Linux versions (i.e. previous kernels) still show up as options, but when selected, an error appears citing the --unrestricted parameter. I have this exact same problem on 2 different machines, so should be easy to replicate. (but I can provide extra info on request, of course) I am triple-booting trisquel6, trisquel7 and windows. GRUB still loads T7 and Windows ok. It's just T6 that won't load.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6: updates break GRUB
Report it as a bug. See the item “issues” at the navigation bar that appears to the right and include all relevant information (Exact error message, and attach the file “/boot/grub/grub.cfg”.
Re: [Trisquel-users] stallman's speech
maes...@openmailbox.org wrote: dude use minitube simple as that I'm aware of how to get to YouTube videos without visiting the site in the typical fashion. That's not the point. Such workarounds ignore the speaker's request, the reasons for that request, and how most people will use YouTube. Most people get a YouTube link and visit the site by clicking the link. Those users will end up visiting the site and taking on nonfree Javascript programs, being asked to install nonfree software (and probably installing it), and needlessly working with patent-encumbered file formats for which there are formats that favor Free Software. I think it would be better for people to upload their videos to their own websites and/or sites that will help transcode to formats that favor Free Software such as archive.org. This would abide by the speaker's request and simultaneously allow us to break dependency on sites that don't treat users well.
Re: [Trisquel-users] stallman's speech
Those users will end up visiting the site and taking on nonfree Javascript programs, being asked to install nonfree software Yeah, and those are exactly the users that don't know about the issue and have to be informed about it - precisely the right audience. It's important that people don't *have to* use non-free software in order to watch the video, and that it's available in an free format. I think it would be better for people to upload their videos to their own websites and/or sites that will help transcode to formats that favor Free Software such as archive.org. Why not just bury them in the garden? Do you honestly think anybody who needs to be taught about the issues of non-free software is looking for videos at archive.org?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Software Replacement on Trisquel
The shell (GNU Bash or similar) breaks the command line into arguments on unquoted spaces. To quote, you can use the backslash to quote a single character, or surround the whole string between single or double quotes. E.g: rm filename\ with\ spaces rm filename with spaces rm 'filename with spaces' Double quotes don't prevent expansion, while single quotes do. So that if you have a filename like “$hello”, then you need to use single quotes or a backslash before ‘$’. For example, the following remove the file called “$hello”: rm \$hello rm '$hello' While the following removes the file whose name is stored in the variable “hello”: rm $hello For more details consult the Bash manual or http://mywiki.wooledge.org/Arguments.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing libreboot on a Thinkpad T60....myself?
Ok, i tried to find out the name of my lcd display; none of the options on http://www.libreboot.org/docs/misc/index.html#get_edid_panelname work for me, so i guess the dream is already over (if i try to remove the display physically, i will damage my device for sure). I had a look at the gluglug website and found that a T60 costs 378 british pounds, which are approximately 480 euro. I bought my thinkpad t60 on ebay and payed 80 Euro - HOW is this justified??
[Trisquel-users] Cant install trisquel
hello i am posting this from a live cd i tried to installed trisquel 7 LTS (on my ssd) but whenever i get to the end of the installation it tells my that it cant install grub and that it is a fatal error dose anyone know what this could be casued by? also i have sucsessfully installed debian 7 before on the same machine with no non-free software i have also tried the netinstall cd and that diddnt seem to install a bootloader as i could not boot to my ssd
Re: [Trisquel-users] Popcorn-Time wishes you merry gravmassssssssssss
I don't like the sound of tor-like network. Why not just design a bittorrent client that uses tor in a secure way?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing libreboot on a Thinkpad T60....myself?
I can't... there is no way for me to find out if my LCD is supported or not. Did you do it?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Popcorn-Time wishes you merry gravmassssssssssss
what about http://www.tribler.org/?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Software Replacement on Trisquel
had no idea that i needed to type it like that thx
Re: [Trisquel-users] stallman's speech
shiret...@web.de wrote: I think that it's legit to publish a video on youtube in order to steer people away from youtube - just as legit as writing free software for a proprietary operating system so people can easier make the transition. Substituting another program or some other service isn't the same as running that particular program. But one can watch a video in a variety of formats and see the same video, one can use different hosting services for the video data and see the same video. In cases where an oppressive system is unavoidable (like Stallman faced when first writing Free Software for the GNU Project), I think using the oppressive system to obtain liberation is fine to do. But we're not in that situation with video hosting. There are plenty of hosting and file format options. With regard to Free Software running on nonfree OSes: I think there's a need for some good research as to whether Free Software on nonfree OSes eases a transition to running Free Software on a Free Software OS, keeps people using a nonfree OS, or something else. What i'm talking about is impact; there's no point in uploading speeches if nobody will ever see them. The goal is to free as many people as possible - did you forget? Saying nobody will ever see them strikes me as exaggeration. There's no evidence to show that videos hosted outside YouTube will be seen by nobody. I think the other points you've raised are points I've already addressed.
Re: [Trisquel-users] LibertyBSD - OpenBSD minus the blobs
Thanks for the advice. I won't have to worry about rebranding Firefox and Thunderbird yet, since this release doesn't contain a libre ports tree. As for the escrow, I've contacted the FSF, and they aren't willing to assist in this regard. However, alimiracle has expressed interest. Do you know whether or not he would be trusted by the free software community?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Best Libre os for a old computer?
You could try this one, is an awesome distro http://rlsd.dimakrasner.com/ I don't know why it is not in the FSF distro, maybe the author didn't asked it, seems even the kernel is linux libre.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6: updates break GRUB
Quidam it's show me this: GNU GRUB VERSIÓN 1.99-2UBUNTU3.17+6.0.1TRISQUEL4 PREVIOUS LINUX VERSIONS And i can't do anyting.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing libreboot on a Thinkpad T60....myself?
for this incredibly useful comment.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing libreboot on a Thinkpad T60....myself?
Hi! I've got both good and bad experiences with installing libreboot on the T60. The first attempt was a success. I ordered all of the hardware from Ebay: a C2D T60, docking station, wifi card, screen (IDtech IAQX10N (15.1 2048x1536) + an inverter board. Of all these components the screen was the most expensive. I followed the guide for replacing the Lenovo software on the boot flash and successfully installed libreboot. The machine booted but I could only see something on an external display, because the one that comes with the laptop isn't compatible. Then I followed the guide for replacing the screen and it was actually pretty easy to do that. After this my machine worked really well. I just had to make a few customizations in Gnome Flashback (Trisquel 7) to make things look not so tiny on the beautiful high-resolution screen. I was very happy about being able to do my computing with 100% free software. My second attempt was a failure and resulted in a bricked machine. I had bought two more T60 machines that I was going to make ready for my girlfriend's parents. When I attempted the same libreboot install (version 2014-10-15), however, I think I accidentally skipped one of the steps in the guide and got this error message from Flashrom: Flash chip is in an unknown state. I wasn't sure that something had gone bad however, because the libreboot documentation says that Seeing this means that the operation was a resounding success! DON'T PANIC. But after I shut down the machine the machine refused to boot. My third attempt was as also a failure. I wanted to replace the version from text to framebuffer in order to be able to install Parabola on it. I was very careful to follow the guide exactly this time, but the machine still refused to start afterwards. (Well, using GNU screen, the docking station a second computer and I could see that hardware initialization worked but that GRUB refused to start due to some memory problem.) I'm not entirely sure why this happened but I think one of the ROMs might be corrupt (framebuffer, svenska, 2014-10-15). So what have I done with my bricked machines? Well, I've taken them apart, purchased a bus pirate v. 4, a pomona clip + cables to try to unbrick the machines by flashing externally. This has NOT worked, yet, despite multiple attempts (with a not so little help from a friend). The bus pirate refuses to recognize the chip, even after upgrading to the most recent firmware version. (Without the upgrade the computer immediately disconnected the bus pirate.) I think that I'll need to buy a bus pirate v. 3 because that's what everyone else has; nobody seems to be using v. 4 and thus I haven't received any help with this in the relevant IRC channels. My feelings now for the libreboot distro is that it's incredibly important and interesting – not the least for symbolic reasons –, but it also has a number of flaws that make the installation process, for a newb like myself, very risky. Still, I don't want to discourage people from trying to install libreboot as long as it's not their only and/or primary computer. It might work. In my view, libreboot needs the following to become installable by non-hackers: 1) more testing, 2) better documentation for installation and 3) a fallback mechanism for recovering so as to avoid external reflashing. I hope that more people with the necessary skills will join the project and help out.
Re: [Trisquel-users] stallman's speech
shiret...@web.de wrote: Yeah, and those are exactly the users that don't know about the issue and have to be informed about it - precisely the right audience. It's important that people don't *have to* use non-free software in order to watch the video, and that it's available in an free format. Not having to use nonfree software isn't good enough here. I'll assume Stallman gave his usual clear and sensible request at the start of his talk by saying something to the effect of please don't host this video on YouTube along with an explanation of why he does not want copies of his talks hosted there. When those who claim to endorse his message don't choose to follow his request, viewers are naturally confused -- they're watching a copy of the video hosted on a site he said he didn't want posted there. So if those who ostensibly favor Free Software can't or won't follow his justifiable request, nobody else watching that video on YouTube has reason to take Stallman seriously. It's important that you behave in a manner consistent with what you endorse or else you undermine your own endorsement effort. Your own actions serve as a clear instruction that you can get what you want in this instance (online video) hosted in a practical way that meets with your ethics and the speaker's request. Why not just bury them in the garden? Do you honestly think anybody who needs to be taught about the issues of non-free software is looking for videos at archive.org? I think people will get to the video by receiving a link to that video, which means one could just as easily link to a copy hosted at archive.org or hosted on their own website. Either link can easily point to a copy of the video in a format that favors Free Software instead of using Google's service. And there's no need to choose just one source for the video. You seem to be arguing from convenience; it was more convenient for someone to upload the video to YouTube, and here you're trying to justify that choice by saying that's where other users look. Such argument reinforces the behavior you say is bad which creates confusion. You can avoid this confusion by behaving in line with what you say people need to be taught. People need to be taught that Facebook is a monstrous surveillance engine. Yet Facebook is quite popular. Facebook would be a far less monstrous service if it were less popular. But the FSF would seriously undermine their own work tacitly endorsing Facebook if they chose to host something there. So instead the FSF publishes https://www.fsf.org/facebook explaining why You won't find me on Facebook. YouTube can and should be avoided. People had to learn to use it and therefore people can learn to use something else that treats them better and they can learn why they should not use websites that treat them badly. If they're not bold enough to do the right thing on their own, they need examples of good behavior to serve as a model for their own behavior which means seeing people point to copies of videos in formats favoring Free Software hosted on sites such as archive.org and many other individual user's websites. So while you can't control what other people choose, you can control what you choose and I urge you to not choose to host videos at YouTube or endorse such videos.
[Trisquel-users] Open Trisquel-site for people
Welcome! I noticed Trisquel hanging out on the forum that is basically everything and nothing, no harmony - all in one place. Personally, I suggest the introduction of new Forum rules. Perhaps the integration of people under the GNU Social (and instruction to me how it works) or the Diaspora? You may need to make people Tutorials? You may need to show people alternatives (eg. Replace unrar on Unar) [non-free distributions] The problem is that FOSS that - we are a powerful force - but we can not unite, we can not strive for perfection, sometimes not even listen to other people #revolutiontime Fervi
[Trisquel-users] Some general questions about Trisquel
Hello, I've heard about Trisquel GNU/Linux and saw some screenshots and got interested in it. So far it seems nice, but I've got some questions: 1) are there any native German speakers translating the website? I'd say there isn't since the poor translation. 2) how big is the Trisquel team? I've searched the internet to find out when a new version of Trisquel is released and I saw that Trisquel 7 will be supported until 2019!!! 3) since I'm currently running Debian GNU/Linux 7, I only have GNOME 3.2. There is no Fallback desktop like Trisquel GNU/Linux is using. So I'd like to know, is this the upstream Fallback mode? 4) I wanted to read http://trisquel.info/en/trisquel-70-lts-belenos but I can't. It tries to redirect me to the localized site, but there's no appropriate news available. Thanks and best regards.
Re: [Trisquel-users] stallman's speech
It's important that you behave in a manner consistent with what you endorse I don't see any reason why it's not perfectly possible to agree on some points of a speech and disagree on others; I think that it's legit to publish a video on youtube in order to steer people away from youtube - just as legit as writing free software for a proprietary operating system so people can easier make the transition. On youtube, all kinds of media appear from completely unknown sources. *nobody* is wondering why this video has been uploaded though stallman requests not to do so; sure it has been uploaded by some random dude who doesn't care. If they watch it on youtube, chances are good that they understand the message. If they don't watch it at all, chances are zero. You seem to be arguing from convenience Clearly not; in this context, this term makes no sense whatsoever. Talking about convenience would be: It is easier for me to upload the video on youtube; all the other alternatives make this process less convenient. What i'm talking about is impact; there's no point in uploading speeches if nobody will ever see them. The goal is to free as many people as possible - did you forget? I think people will get to the video by receiving a link to that video Well, that's some statement - of course they will get to the video by receiving a link, but how will they GET this link? On some unpopular sites, they won't at all. But the FSF would seriously undermine their own work tacitly endorsing Facebook if they chose to host something there. That's a false analogy: I never proposed that the fsf should create an account on youtube and upload the video officially.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing libreboot on a Thinkpad T60....myself?
Thank you very much, suitsmeveryfine, for your detailed report! I see that it's a non-trivial and risky task, and since it indeed is my main computer and i can't really afford to brick my device, i will refrain from installing libreboot at the moment, even if it's VERY unpleasant for me to give up on that; after all, i have one of the two (?) supported libreboot devices right in front of me; so close, and yet so far away ;) I hope that - someday - it will become easy and cheap to get a computer with free bios!
Re: [Trisquel-users] LibertyBSD - OpenBSD minus the blobs
Thanks, that would be great. I have two questions: 1) Are you generally trusted within the community? Is there anyone who can agree to that? 2) Do you accept credit card or Paypal, and if so, would you be willing to convert the money to BTC before sending it to me?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Some general questions about Trisquel
3) I think this is Gnome-session-fallback clone. Technically in new distros; Fallback mode is avaliable like a Gnome-Shell Mod 4) No German language in this news; what do you want to know? Fervi
[Trisquel-users] Antwort: Some general questions about Trisquel
Sorry, forgot to mention before posting: 5) is the team, or at least some of the Trisquel team actively reading this forum or are they rather using the mailing list?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 6: updates break GRUB
Te same for me here. After instaling updates give me the error: Unknow argument --unrestricted
Re: [Trisquel-users] Stallman uses Trisquel GNU/Linux for computation.
Thank you! It was nice to read that page again. It now contains a lot of new stuff.