Re: [Trisquel-users] Is this Librem13 fully free this time?

2015-07-27 Thread greatgnu
We can not and must not believe anything this dude Todd says. He's obviously  
a deluded, unethical opportunist. His claims have absolutely no value at all.  
He has earned some money with the Librem 15. But that's it. The fiesta  
hopefully and very probably ends here for Todd. The librem 13 funding ends in  
a few days and he hasn't collected but 1/3 of the money. The reason is, I  
think and hope, finally people have seen it clearly beyond his nonsense and  
bs delusions.
As I already said, the true problem with people and projects like this Todd  
dude and the Purism is that all this money could have been employed to  
advance (financially and consequently de facto technically) true libre  
projects like the libreboot community and gluglug.




Re: [Trisquel-users] C.H.I.P Hardware Design online

2015-07-27 Thread firefoxbugreporter
It won't be the first (eg. there is  
https://www.olimex.com/Products/OLinuXino/A10/A10-OLinuXino-LIME/).
But a more important point, it will probably not be freedom respecting  
hardware either. As far as I know there is no freedom respecting Realtek wifi  
that has 802.11n support.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 7 feedback (with hardware details)

2015-07-27 Thread nicolasmaia
A quick search for Acer Inspire One on h-node brings up no results, so any  
hardware feedback you have would be greatly appreciated :)


Re: [Trisquel-users] C.H.I.P Hardware Design online

2015-07-27 Thread gromobir
Sure, the exact license is shown here:  
https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/us/


Re: [Trisquel-users] C.H.I.P Hardware Design online

2015-07-27 Thread gromobir
That's for sure but Allwinner seems to have quite a bad reputation when it  
comes to actually releasing code.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Can't get Mate to work in my Trisquel (7), can anybody help?

2015-07-27 Thread fredo
I wasn't able to install cinnamon, and I gave up trying all the desktop  
environment. Installing gnome 3 was enough for me, and it works very good.
I know some people here installed some other DE, but I always had issues.  
Only enlightenment and xfce worked good enough to keep it.


I recommend you should restore a clean system before installing the desired  
DE via the official repos. Everytime I added a PPA I had some issues.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 7 feedback (with hardware details)

2015-07-27 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
 A question about kernels, what are linux-generic-headers packages, and why  
are they sometimes held back when I run sudo apt-get upgrade?


Apparently they're used to build third-party modules for your kernel.

Sometimes you need to dist-upgrade instead. From the manual page of  
apt-get(8):


upgrade upgrade is used to install the newest versions of all packages  
currently installed on the system from the sources enumerated in  
/etc/apt/sources.list. Packages currently installed with new versions  
available are retrieved and upgraded; under no circumstances are currently  
installed packages removed, or packages not already installed retrieved and  
installed. New versions of currently installed packages that cannot be  
upgraded without
changing the install status of another package will be left at their current  
version. An update must be performed first so that apt-get knows that new  
versions of packages are available.



dist-upgrade in addition to performing the function of upgrade, also  
intelligently handles changing dependencies with new versions of packages;  
apt-get has a smart conflict resolution system, and it will attempt to  
upgrade the most important packages at the expense of less important ones if  
necessary. So, dist-upgrade command may remove some packages. The  
/etc/apt/sources.list file contains a list of locations from which to  
retrieve desired package files. See also apt_preferences(5) for a mechanism  
for overriding the general settings for individual packages.


Re: [Trisquel-users] 'Abrowser' behaves strangely after a system update.

2015-07-27 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
FWIW I'm on 64 bit Trisquel 6. Abrowser 39 + NoScript - Gnash. Very solid  
experience, as always.


Re: [Trisquel-users] H.265 video will cause more freedom issues than H.264

2015-07-27 Thread jason
There is also http://libwebpjs.appspot.com/vp8/webm-javascript-decoder/ and  
dash.js is also an option for adaptive streaming. I've not used any of them  
though so can't make a recommendation but it seems that every browser is  
covered with free codecs is all I wanted to point out. :)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Advertising Trisquel FLOSS

2015-07-27 Thread cyberhawk
I have set up a website (with my own personal server machine). Unfortunately,  
it runs on a Raspberry Pi, which isn't the 100% free software friendly  
solution to do this. Replacing the Raspberry with a similar, more free  
software friendly system is on my to-do list.


Trisquel is definitely getting a mention on my website in the links  
section. The site has a very retro-look however (due to my limited connection  
speed).


I have created a pixelart, lowcolor rendition of the logo. Is anyone  
interested in using it? (2-colors, 30x30 pixels)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Can't get Mate to work in my Trisquel (7), can anybody help?

2015-07-27 Thread qazxswedc

You mean reinstall my system?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 7 feedback (with hardware details)

2015-07-27 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
It just means the module won't be automatically loaded. (Unless required by  
some other module.) There should be no freedom implications since all the  
modules in Trisquel are free.


Re: [Trisquel-users] C.H.I.P Hardware Design online

2015-07-27 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp

 a Creative Commons license
Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported

It's always best to be specific as the cc licenses are quite different.  
https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#which-cc


Re: [Trisquel-users] Plasma Mobile

2015-07-27 Thread jason
The problems would be the same as for Replicant; it would only run on a  
handful of devices


Yes, People seem to like working on/overhauling/reinventing the easy, upper  
levels of mobile (which were already free) while ignoring the lower levels.  
This is the real area that needs focus in the mobile world.


[Trisquel-users] Re : Trisquel 7 feedback (with hardware details)

2015-07-27 Thread mtlben

You'll get results by searching for 'aspire one' or 'acer aspire'.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Can't get Mate to work in my Trisquel (7), can anybody help?

2015-07-27 Thread tegskywalker
Did you use this PPA for Trisquel 7 and follow the directions?  
https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mate-dev/+archive/ubuntu/trusty-mate



PPA description

These MATE 1.8.1 packages for *only* Ubuntu Trusty, they have been side  
ported from Debian.


In order to correctly install and configure MATE 1.8.1 on Ubuntu Trusty you  
will also need to add the following PPA:


ppa:ubuntu-mate-dev/ppa


Open a terminal complete the following steps to enable the appropriate PPAs  
and install MATE 1.8.1 on Ubuntu Trusty.


sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ubuntu-mate-dev/ppa
sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ubuntu-mate-dev/trusty-mate
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade
sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends ubuntu-mate-core  
ubuntu-mate-desktop




Re: [Trisquel-users] H.265 video will cause more freedom issues than H.264

2015-07-27 Thread tegskywalker
Most of these have either been abandoned and/or not updated in years. Kinda  
sucks that WebM is still not a big priority as I would like to build sites  
for either myself or clients that I can do without MP4 entirely and just  
serve WebM.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Plasma Mobile

2015-07-27 Thread abhijithb21
I can't recall any other mobile OS than Android that works on so many  
different devices. Even if a free mobile OS runs only on a single model of a  
single brand it is still a Free mobile OS and a valuable asset to the  
community. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Advertising Trisquel FLOSS

2015-07-27 Thread Vinzenz Vietzke
Am 27. Juli 2015 14:48:29 MESZ, schrieb cyberh...@openmailbox.org:
I have set up a website (with my own personal server machine).
Unfortunately,  
it runs on a Raspberry Pi, which isn't the 100% free software friendly 

solution to do this. Replacing the Raspberry with a similar, more free 

software friendly system is on my to-do list.

Trisquel is definitely getting a mention on my website in the links  
section. The site has a very retro-look however (due to my limited
connection  
speed).

I have created a pixelart, lowcolor rendition of the logo. Is anyone  
interested in using it? (2-colors, 30x30 pixels)

Sure, that's great!
Maybe put it up on the wiki for convenient access?
https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/marketing


Re: [Trisquel-users] C.H.I.P Hardware Design online

2015-07-27 Thread gromobir
Are you sure it's not a Soc? On http://nextthing.co/ they claim:  C.H.I.P.  
does computer things. Work in LibreOffice and save your documents to  
C.H.I.P.’s onboard storage. Surf the web and check your email over wifi.  
Play games with a bluetooth controller. With dozens of applications and tools  
preinstalled, C.H.I.P. is ready to do computer things the moment you power it  
on!


Re: [Trisquel-users] C.H.I.P Hardware Design online

2015-07-27 Thread Michał Masłowski
It's not a SoC, just a board, like many other boards with some free
design files.

After reading
https://olimex.wordpress.com/2015/06/05/how-to-get-in-the-news-tell-people-that-you-will-make-and-sell-something-which-cost-you-20-for-9/,
I assume it won't be sufficiently available to be useful to recommend to
others.


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Re: [Trisquel-users] Advertising Trisquel FLOSS

2015-07-27 Thread cyberhawk
My site is sort-of a visual throw back to a BBS and serves for sharing  
pictures that I take. It should not be mentioned on the marketing page. But  
maybe the pixelart rendition of the logo can be used by someone else?


Re: [Trisquel-users] C.H.I.P Hardware Design online

2015-07-27 Thread gromobir
Oh, I almost forgot to mention this blog post from Free Electrons:  
http://free-electrons.com/blog/free-electrons-chip-nextthing/


Free Electrons is also very excited to be working with NextThing Co on this  
project! Thanks to this, over the next months, we will have a very  
substantial amount of time dedicated to this project, and we will regularly  
push code to support the missing hardware Allwinner SoC hardware blocks in  
the mainline Linux kernel and to support the C.H.I.P. board.


They also describe some more details about the board:

* Availability planned for 2016 for the general public. A selection of 1000  
kernel hackers who backed on Kickstarter will have the platform earlier.
* Very small platform: 40mm x 60mm, making is even smaller than a Raspberry  
Pi or BeagleBone.
* Allwinner R8 processor, clocked at 1 Ghz, and offering OpenGL/OpenVG  
acceleration through an ARM Mali GPU

* 512 MB of RAM
* 4GB of on-board NAND flash storage
* WiFi and Bluetooth 4.0 to connect the system to the outside world
* One USB host port
* Powered through a micro USB connector which also supports USB OTG (either  
USB host or device).

* Jack connector for composite video out, headphones and microphone input.
* Many headers to connect external devices (SPI, I2C, UART + 8 GPIOs)
* Integrated circuit for charging a LiPo battery and being powered by it
* Additional HDMI or VGA add-on boards will be needed to connect to displays  
with the corresponding connectivity.




[Trisquel-users] I wish to buy Lemote Yeeloong 8101B notebook

2015-07-27 Thread janprunk

Hi !

I am interested where would it still be possible to buy a Lemote Yeeloong  
8101B notebook.

I am also interested to obtain one from a second hand.
Available are various methods of payment (Wire, Paypal, Bitcoin...)
I live in Europe. Please send me a private message to discuss the options  
further.


Thanks,
Jan


[Trisquel-users] Re : Trisquel 7 feedback (with hardware details)

2015-07-27 Thread lcerf
Why has it not been included in Trisquel 7? Stability problems? Nonfree  
dependencies? Other?


Metacity is the default window manager. The default install normally comes  
with one application per task. The question therefore becomes why does  
Trisquel 6 comes with both Metacity and Compiz?. I do not have the answer.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Can't get Mate to work in my Trisquel (7), can anybody help?

2015-07-27 Thread qazxswedc

Thanks for the help guys but I just decided to use Gnome 3.
Sasaki thanks a lot!


Re: [Trisquel-users] I wish to buy Lemote Yeeloong 8101B notebook

2015-07-27 Thread marioxcc . MT
I do not know where to get one, but maybe you are interested in buying a  
Gluglug Libreboot X200, which as far as I know, is the more freedom  
respecting computer model available (see the link; I do not sell them).




[Trisquel-users] Erro (initramfs)

2015-07-27 Thread dausacker

Buenas, pessoal!

Hoje ao ligar minha máquina Trisquel, me deparei com a seguinte mensagem e  
não foi carregado o sistema:


BusyBox v1.21.1 (Ubuntu 1:1.21.0-1ubuntu1) built-in shell (ash)
Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands

Alguém já passou por isso?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Erro (initramfs)

2015-07-27 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
Hey Dausacker, glad to see you here mate.

If you want to cut a long story short, skip the next paragraph.

(For those who don't know where we know ourselves: Dausacker presented a
series of talks about GNU+Linux-libre Trisquel here in Brazil. Besides,
I, he, and many others from Brazil, have kept following the free
software philosophy, while 75% of the so called free software
activists here in Brazil steered towards the open source software
development model for many years. And those who do follow the free
software philosophy are now trying to tell the others to put things back
on track, or to assume that these so-called free software activists
are not really for the free software philosophy.)

Basically, Dausacker is greeting us and telling that, when booting his
GNU+Linux-libre Trisquel installation, he encountered this:

 BusyBox v1.21.1 (Ubuntu 1:1.21.0-1ubuntu1) built-in shell (ash)
 Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands

And he is asking if any of us have encountered the same problem.

Note for Dausacker (en-US): If you want, send me an email with your next
messages if you want them to be translated. Don't use Google Translate
because it's a service as a software substitute (SaaSS).

Note for Dausacker (pt-BR): Se quiser, envie-me um e-mail com tuas
próximas mensagens se quiser que elas sejam traduzidas. Não use o Google
Translate pois ele é um serviço como substituto de software (SaaSS).


Respectfully, Adonay.
Have a nice day.


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Re: [Trisquel-users] Many applications can't connect to when OpenVPN is activated

2015-07-27 Thread Jim Fulner
And your point is?

Even if they were nefarious, wouldn't they want to let my internet traffic
work so they could spy on me as you are insinuating? Regardless that
doesn't address my issue.

Is there a setting in Trisquel that I need to change to get applications
by default to utilize a VPN?


Re: [Trisquel-users] H.265 video will cause more freedom issues than H.264

2015-07-27 Thread jason
The bitstream has been frozen for years. That makes any decoder based on the  
frozen bitstream remains compatible even through future encoder versions as  
long as the bitstream doesn't change (and it hasn't - it's been frozen.)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Icecat not compatible with Trisquel site?

2015-07-27 Thread strypey
You are entitled to your opinion of course SuperTramp83, but I believe both  
the time and effort are well spent. I have spent a bit of time recently (and  
I will spend some more) sending messages to a number of people I know who  
create libre server software, or run free culture websites, encouraging them  
to tag their scripts with license and link to source, as recommended by the  
FSF. If websites are going to run software on my machine, without explicitly  
asking my permission first, I want that software to be libre. Not probably,  
definitely.


Ideally, all client-side scripts would prompt the user for permission the  
first time they use a website before they run, and would indicate in that  
prompt the license covering the source code in the scripts.


[Trisquel-users] C.H.I.P Hardware Design online

2015-07-27 Thread gromobir
The C.H.I.P hardware design is now available under a Creative Commons  
license: https://github.com/NextThingCo/CHIP-Hardware


As far as I understand it, this would be the first completely open hardware  
SoC once Linux kernel support is implemented. If this is correct, it's just  
awesome!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Many applications can't connect to when OpenVPN is activated

2015-07-27 Thread matt . ivie

Are you using the gnome gui to configure your VPN?


[Trisquel-users] Masalla Icon Theme

2015-07-27 Thread cteehayder

Hello Liberal people :)

Masalla icon theme by me (eng. hayder majid (hayder ctee))
Theme inspired by the latest flat design trend.
The name of project  is inspired from Obelisk name (like Obelisk of Hammurabi  
in History of Iraq) in arabic language

Icons are licensed under the Creative Commons License (CC BY-NC-SA 4.0)
Some parts of this work is under GPL-3.0+ License

icon link on gnome-look:
http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Masalla+Icon+Theme?content=170321

and on kde-look:
http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Masalla+Icon+Theme?content=170415

and on xfce-look:
http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php/Masalla+Icon+Theme?content=170413

on deviantart:
http://hayderctee.deviantart.com/art/Masalla-Icon-Themes-540865415?ga_submit_new=10%253A1437978275ga_type=editga_changes=1


Re: [Trisquel-users] I wish to buy Lemote Yeeloong 8101B notebook

2015-07-27 Thread jason
I am interested where would it still be possible to buy a Lemote Yeeloong  
8101B notebook.


Why? They're hard to find while in comparison the machines supported by  
Libreboot are easier to find and more capable. It's a win-win.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Best secrity tools to defend my Trisquel system against douchebags?

2015-07-27 Thread qazxswedc
Yeah that high-blooded Darlene haha! Show's legit though, I think. Probably  
the best one of it's kind. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] 'Abrowser' behaves strangely after a system update.

2015-07-27 Thread strypey
I'm using IceCat on Trisquel 7 now. It mostly runs ok if I keep LibreJS  
turned off, but it still crashes from time to time. If I actually want to get  
some work done without periodic browser crashes, I have to go back to my  
Trisquel 6 install.


Browser crashes in Trisquel 6
Come to think of it, I have had the occasional browser crash problem on  
Trisquel 6 too. It usually happens when I have a *lot* of tabs open, and  
usually has something to do with sites serving scripts that freeze up (dialog  
pops up to let me stop them). It tends to happen when I've been using my  
laptop for a long time, so I used to think it was due to overheating, but I  
was recently given a really good USB fan base, and it still happens with  
that. I think in Trisquel 6 it probably is out-of-memory problems triggered  
by JavaScript bloatware.


[Trisquel-users] Can't get Mate to work in my Trisquel (7), can anybody help?

2015-07-27 Thread qazxswedc
In installed both Mate and Unity using these links, respectively:  
https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/installing-mate

https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/how-install-unity-desktop-environment-and-create-session-entry-trisquel-70

I also removed some Unity parts via the following commands:
usr/share/xsessions/ubuntu.desktop
/usr/share/gnome-session/sessions/ubuntu.session

Could anybody help me?
Thanks!




Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 7 feedback (with hardware details)

2015-07-27 Thread strypey
What does it mean for a driver module to be blacklisted? What are the  
implications (eg for software freedom) of removing a driver module from the  
blacklist?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Can't get Mate to work in my Trisquel (7), can anybody help?

2015-07-27 Thread abhijithb21
Why do we need a PPA to install mate when it is available in the repos? Check  
Synaptic Package Manager.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Can't get Mate to work in my Trisquel (7), can anybody help?

2015-07-27 Thread qazxswedc
I don't know about that. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 7 feedback (with hardware details)

2015-07-27 Thread strypey
Thanks again lembas, I'll have a go at upgrading my kernel. A question about  
kernels, what are linux-generic-headers packages, and why are they sometimes  
held back when I run sudo apt-get upgrade?


Magic Banana, thanks for the clarification about Compiz. Why has it not been  
included in Trisquel 7? Stability problems? Nonfree dependencies? Other?


I'm just testing Trisquel 7 with my external flat-screen display (Dell),  
which plugged into my Acer (see above) via VGA. Still using Metacity. The  
performance is actually just the same as on 6.


Using the Display applet in System Settings, the Dell has 4 resolution  
options available, the built-in screen has 2. If I set the built-in screen to  
the lesser of the two options (800x600 4:3), and the Dell to the second  
highest option (1152x864 4:3), everything seems to work ok. I can only use  
the best option on the Dell (1280x1024 5:4) if I turn off the built-in screen  
completely. I can use the best option on the built-in screen (1024x600 16:9),  
which is better for the shape of the screen, but I have to change the Dell  
down to 1024x768 4:3.


If I try to put both screens on the better option, or change the built-in  
screen up without changing the Dell down the desktops are visible, but  
display response slows to a crawl. I'm assuming that's because either my CPU  
or graphics chips are not up to the job, but I'd love to discover I'm wrong  
about that :)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Plasma Mobile

2015-07-27 Thread strypey
Sounds like a KDE fork of the UbuntuPhone (http://www.ubuntu.com/phone).  
KubuntuPhone?


In theory it would be possible to create a TrisquelPhone, by stripping all  
the nonfree components out of UbuntuPhone, just like what's done to Ubuntu to  
create Trisquel. The problems would be the same as for Replicant; it would  
only run on a handful of devices (whichever kinds the TrisquelPhone  
developers had to benchmark against), and would be fiendishly complex to  
install, even for those of us who have got comfortable with install GNU+Linux  
on ex-Windows PCs.


The FSF has a campaign to gather information about efforts to restore full  
software freedom to Android/Linux devices:

https://fsfe.org/campaigns/android/android.html

What would be really sick is if somebody could provide some simple  
instructions for hacking an iThing and replacing iOS with a libre OS. I think  
whipping out a liberated iThing at tech events would definitely make a  
statement ;)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Give me recommendations about a video sharing site.

2015-07-27 Thread strypey
Are any of you familiar with Plumi? It's Plone-based server software for  
video-hosting sites. It's licensed under GPL (probably should be AGPL  
but...):

http://blog.plumi.org/

It was created in 2007 to run engagemedia.org (Australia-based activist  
video-hosting site) but there are a number of other sites already using Plumi  
for their own purposes:

http://blog.plumi.org/sites-using-plumi/

They still need to tag their scripts for compatibility with LibreJS, but no  
doubt that's underway (or soon will be).


Re: [Trisquel-users] 'Abrowser' behaves strangely after a system update.

2015-07-27 Thread cyberhawk
this looks promising, hopefully it will be fixed in a future update from  
upstream. But personally, I didn't experience this problem on a machine  
running Lubuntu with all the newest updates...