Re: [Trisquel-users] Penguin Adelie GNU / Linux Laptop

2016-04-27 Thread enduzzer
If it's to your liking and the price is rihgt, why don't you get it, install  
Ubuntu 16.04 without adding non-free repositories or firmware. When Trisquel  
8 Flidas comes out, install that and wipe your Ubuntu.


[Trisquel-users] Penguin Adelie GNU / Linux Laptop

2016-04-27 Thread jorda

Hi, everyone!!!

I'm pretty new in the free software world.Right now I'm using (testing)  
Trisquel in a Virtual Machine and I love the system. I'm really happy about  
it. So now I'm considering to buy a new laptop and I realize, it is not so  
easy. The most demanding software that I will use is Blender. The recommended  
hardware for blender: 64-bit quad core CPU, 8 GB RAM, OpenGL 3.2 compatible  
graphics with 2 GB RAM.


After a little research I think that the "Penguin Adelie GNU / Linux Laptop"  
by Think Penguin is a good option.


https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/penguin-adelie-gnu-linux-laptop

But this laptop it is not yet supported by Trisquel (Notes from the website:  
"Other popular distributions such as Trisquel are not yet supported, but will  
be as distributions release newer versions built off newer software stacks.")


I contacted the sales department of Think penguin and they told me that they  
don't know exactly when this laptop will be supported by Trisquel. Maybe 6  
month to a year...


Does anyone have an idea when Trisquel will be supported by the Penguin  
Adelie GNU / Linux Laptop? Or do you know a good alternative to this laptop  
with similar features?


Thank you very much






Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquelize other non-Free GNU/Linux distributions

2016-04-27 Thread albertoefg

Here is step by step guide to "Trisquelize" any ubuntu distro:

1. First you always want to do a back up:
GUI: Back in Time
http://backintime.le-web.org/download_page/
Command line: rsync
https://rsync.samba.org/


2.- Now download Trisquel, and MD5 file:
https://trisquel.info/es/download

3.- Check that your download was not compromised:
a) put your ISO file and your MD5 file on the same directory
b) open a terminal within the directory where those files are
c) run: md5sum trisquel_7.0_amd64.iso
or run: md5sum trisquel-mini_7.0_amd64.iso
or whatever name yout iso has
d) you must get something like "baf8129a2bf08d6c9c3598a149399165   
trisquel-mini_7.0_amd64.iso" compare it with your MD5 file if they match you  
are ok. If dont, please DO NOT CONTINUE and contact Trisquel.



 4.- Deppending on your needs create live-usb or a live-DVD:
USB:
https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/burn-trisquel-cd-images
 DVD:
https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/burn-trisquel-cd-images

5.- Reboot your pc and make sure to select to boot from USB or DVD from BIOS  
deppending on where you put Trisquel.



6.- Before installing anything select the option to verify disk.

7.- If the disk was ok, now you can install Trisquel.

8.- Recommended: Wipe all the OS's that don't respect your freedom:
https://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.html

If you have one of these then it is ok:
https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html

9.- Recommended: Encrypt your hole hard drive or SSD drive for a more secure  
Trisquel installation.


10.- Enjoy!

Now you have a  "Trisquelized" computer, based on Ubuntu but whitout all the  
bullshit. And you can do it right now :)  


Re: [Trisquel-users] "Ubuntu LTS: Many vulnerabilities despite long-term support"

2016-04-27 Thread cooloutac

very good point.   many people don't realize the same thing about openbsd.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Using MATE for Trisquel 8 was smart, considering that some say Ubuntu MATE is the best version

2016-04-27 Thread cooloutac
I thought gnome-flashback ran on gnome 3?  its just made to look like gnome  
2.  I could be wrong.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Using MATE for Trisquel 8 was smart, considering that some say Ubuntu MATE is the best version

2016-04-27 Thread cooloutac
gnome-fallback is one of the things I like about trisquel.  extremely  
lightweight and quiet, but still looks nice and doesn't feel like a lite  
desktop at all.   I love how its the only desktop I've used that grsec  
doesn't automatically break.  Even lxde does weird things but this gnome  
fallback seems to have nothing mysterious going on with it.   I always tell  
people trisquel is like ubuntu without the spyware...lol


I also like how trisquel's default setup makes easy transition for windows  
users.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Whats wrong with openjdk-8?

2016-04-27 Thread albertoefg
Thank you! So i guess it is still free software and I can download it without  
problems


Re: [Trisquel-users] Using MATE for Trisquel 8 was smart, considering that some say Ubuntu MATE is the best version

2016-04-27 Thread enduzzer
Quite naturally, Mate is better than Gnome 2, being maintained and having new  
functionality added. It would be inane to suggest it never evolves or stays  
frozen in time, although that seems to have been the goal right from the  
start. How's Mate superior to all other modern desktop environments?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquelize other non-Free GNU/Linux distributions

2016-04-27 Thread jason
I think you misunderstand: If such a script existed for a given Ubuntu  
version then the appropriate version of Trisquel has already been released  
(notice that the script changes the repositories to point to Trisquel's for  
example.) So the release of the script and the so-called "Trisquelization" of  
Ubuntu are actually one and the same and you can't have one without the  
other. :)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Netinstall

2016-04-27 Thread enduzzer

There's a thread on Xfce and the missing nm-applet indicator but it's locked.

https://trisquel.info/en/forum/i-just-installed-xfce-and-i-love-it-im-missing-my-wifinetwork-applet


Re: [Trisquel-users] "Ubuntu LTS: Many vulnerabilities despite long-term support"

2016-04-27 Thread jason
My understanding is that the Trisquel Helpers are responsible for pulling  
packages from the appropriate area of Ubuntu and that once integrated into  
Trisquel they are just in the one repository.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel-updates PPA

2016-04-27 Thread megver . 2000
Yes you are right. For Trisquel 7 it won´t be a good idea. Now yes. And  
considering than Trisquel 8 (as the previous versions of Trisquel) it won´t  
update every package included in the repository


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquelize other non-Free GNU/Linux distributions

2016-04-27 Thread onpon4
I don't see the point in such an effort. With the exception of blobs in  
Linux, Ubuntu already separates proprietary software into designated  
repositories, so it's possible to run Ubuntu without proprietary software  
just by replacing Linux with Linux-libre, if that's what you want. The main  
advantage of Trisquel is it's easy to recommend to others.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Evolution IMAP+: no common encryption algorithm(s)

2016-04-27 Thread matt . ivie
I use evolution with IMAP and starttls with all of my services. From what you  
are describing it sounds more like a server configuration issue.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Open source cloud storage

2016-04-27 Thread jadedml

Their website says:
"Our online solution offers free e-mail address hosting for a wide public in  
search of a high quality service inspired by a free philosophy and totally  
independent of all the existing large service companies on the web. The  
respect for our members' privacy is our priority, which is why we do  
everything to ensure the security of the data that is entrusted to us."


Their Terms of Service doesn't say they may access/they own your data, as  
some other services do.
Technically, you can't verify that Openmailbox doesn't snoop on your data,  
but you can't do that with *any* cloud service. Openmailbox, however, seems  
to have a commitment to privacy, so it seems more trust-worthy than other  
services.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Open source cloud storage

2016-04-27 Thread adel
Chris (Think Penguin) posted about this a year or two ago.  If I remember  
correctly, some people had concerns that were beyond Chris' control (I might  
have been one of those people).  Without suggesting cause and effect, right  
or wrong ... I don't think anything came of it.


It would be cool if Think Penguin did this though.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Evolution IMAP+: no common encryption algorithm(s)

2016-04-27 Thread gnitponsil
No progress regarding Evolution though. Evolution still refuses to connect to  
the IMAP server - username/password is never in play.
I wonder if upgrading Evolution to a later version than in the Trisquel  
repository would help. How do I do that? Is that safe to do?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Who legally owns the Trisquel or 'Asociacion Trisquel'?

2016-04-27 Thread jbar
The minimum wage in Spain is 9172.80€/year (756.70€/month), just to put  
in perspective how much a 500€/month stipend is.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Evolution IMAP+: no common encryption algorithm(s)

2016-04-27 Thread gnitponsil

Ok, a little progress at last, regarding Icedove.
There seems to be some kind of problem with the create account wizard. If I  
write name, mail adress AND password on the first page in the wizard, Icedove  
(and Thunderbird) will give me a Username/Password error. It didn't help to  
enter the correct combination again in the manual settings (believe me, I  
tried many times).
The IMAP configuration that was fetched automatically was correct from the  
start, no changes helped (STARTLS, encrypted password etc).
I erased my accounts and started again, this time without entering a password  
in the wizard. After the wizard finished, I entered the account (and maybe  
clicked Send/Receive). Icedove asked for my password, which I saved, and  
suddenly my IMAP account was working without problems.


Is this finding something I should report somewhere? 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Open source cloud storage

2016-04-27 Thread jbahn

What are the pros and cons regarding privacy and security?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Open source cloud storage

2016-04-27 Thread jbahn
I would really like to setup a server and run OwnCloud by my self but so far  
I haven't had the time to compensate for my my lack of knowledge and skills.


What can you say about Openmailbox regarding privacy and security? (though  
the issue is cloud storage!)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Open source cloud storage

2016-04-27 Thread sitereg

At Openmailbox.org you can 1 GB for free (including your email and cloud)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Open source cloud storage

2016-04-27 Thread jadedml

I'd recommend ownCloud.
IMO it's the most polished and professional fully Free Software cloud storage  
platform.
It's supported by pretty much any device (GNU|Linux, OSX, Windows,  
Android/Replicant).
You can host your own server or use someone else's server (often for a small  
fee).
I like Openmailbox as an ownCloud host-- they have reasonable prices for  
storage and are dedicated to privacy.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Using MATE for Trisquel 8 was smart, considering that some say Ubuntu MATE is the best version

2016-04-27 Thread taknamay
How is MATE superior to GNOME 2? Well for one thing it supports GTK+ 3 now.  
They have been working on a lot of other things too.


[Trisquel-users] Open source cloud storage

2016-04-27 Thread jbahn
I'm using Spideroak sync and backup. They are often endorsed as privacy and  
security friendly and they might be. But they still have this little black  
hole of closed software. I just heard of Syncany for the first time.


Anyone who knows about it?

Do you have other suggestions?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquelize other non-Free GNU/Linux distributions

2016-04-27 Thread alejandrohp

Ubtu = Ubuntu

Trisquelize = Transform Ubuntu into Trisquel. Now, it would be, to take the  
control over Ubuntu to make it Software Libre, step by step.


There is a script to older versions that transform Ubuntu to Trisquel.  
trisquelize.sh:  
https://trisquel.info/es/wiki/migrar-de-ubuntu-trisquel-sin-reinstalar


If it is not possible to update that script to completely liberate Ubuntu  
now, I am suggesting the script prepare Ubuntu to accept Software Libre by  
the user (right now), and then, every step to make it libre will be installed  
every time developers of Trisquel has it ready.


Configure Ubuntu to trisquelize it step by step developers require. Instead  
of releasing whole Trisquel with all the liberation done.


:)


Re: [Trisquel-users] ¿Which email service do you recommend?

2016-04-27 Thread jbahn
When searching for answers for the same question I ended up with  
Kolabnow.com. They are amongst the few services that are endorsed time and  
again by privacy and security techies. They're on the fsf list as well.


Re: [Trisquel-users] What's your favorite not-so-famous application on Trisquel?

2016-04-27 Thread jbahn

I'm not sure if it's famous or not but I use Shutter a lot.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Wifi for my x200

2016-04-27 Thread jbahn
For some reasons x200 can be flash easily while for instance x60 and MacBook  
2.1 can


https://libreboot.org/docs/install/index.html


Re: [Trisquel-users] Wifi for my x200

2016-04-27 Thread jbahn

gracias


Re: [Trisquel-users] New York Wants To Know: Have You Been Texting And Driving?

2016-04-27 Thread sradms0

Sorry, didn't mean to stir anything up.
Should I have just put this in the Troll Hole?


[Trisquel-users] calyxinstitute.org tor

2016-04-27 Thread svhaab

https://www.calyxinstitute.org/
Know it? Backing it? 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquelize other non-Free GNU/Linux distributions

2016-04-27 Thread mnaus
Be specific. What exactly do you want to do when you say "trisquelize"?  What  
is Ubtu?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquelize other non-Free GNU/Linux distributions

2016-04-27 Thread alejandrohp
Ok, so let's trisquelize Ubtu, only. But do it right now. It has to be  
configured since when the user installs Ubtu.


Then, developers could make Trisquel libre in a time.

It is important to make it easy for the user to choose Trisquel, Software  
Libre.


Thanks.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Wifi adapter very low signal :(

2016-04-27 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp

You're welcome.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Wifi for my x200

2016-04-27 Thread Ignacio Agulló

jb...@mykolab.com, Mér 27 Abr 2016 17:31:35 CEST:

Are there any issues I should consider when buying an Atheros-AR5B95  
Mini PCI card? Are some manufacturers better/worse than others? Will  
there be any difference between products and how can I tell? Or  
should I just go find the cheapest there is?


 I just went for the cheapest Atheros-AR5B95 Mini PCI card I  
found on eBay, and it works.



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Re: [Trisquel-users] Wifi for my x200

2016-04-27 Thread Ignacio Agulló

jb...@mykolab.com, Mér 27 Abr 2016 17:20:15 CEST:

That is really cool. Thanks for the post. Though it's out of reach  
for my technical skills I would like to try it some day!


 Having Trisquel installed already, it seems that there is a easy  
way to install Libreboot.  There's a video explaining it:


Installing Libreboot on a Thinkpad X60 (and Wi-Fi card swap) - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEgxCg3pSyU


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Re: [Trisquel-users] New York Wants To Know: Have You Been Texting And Driving?

2016-04-27 Thread greatgnu

I want to spare Jodiendo the trouble: OP, this goes in the troll hole.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Wifi for my x200

2016-04-27 Thread jbahn
Are there any issues I should consider when buying an Atheros-AR5B95 Mini PCI  
card? Are some manufacturers better/worse than others? Will there be any  
difference between products and how can I tell? Or should I just go find the  
cheapest there is?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Wifi adapter very low signal :(

2016-04-27 Thread greatgnu
After some reading, I find that the particular adapter I chose to buy is not  
very good for GNUx apparently. I will return this one and get me a minipci  
Atheros 9223 for the same price. It's the one thinkpenguin sells and it  
should work fine. If not I'll get me an external one.

Tx lembas for your support.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Wifi for my x200

2016-04-27 Thread jbahn
That is really cool. Thanks for the post. Though it's out of reach for my  
technical skills I would like to try it some day!


Re: [Trisquel-users] New York Wants To Know: Have You Been Texting And Driving?

2016-04-27 Thread enduzzer

Ars Technica has an article on this.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/04/first-came-the-breathalyzer-now-meet-the-roadside-police-textalyzer/

It's another excuse to search your belongings. Failure to comply could cost  
you your license.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Wifi for my x200

2016-04-27 Thread jbahn
Thanks. I'll get one of those and see how it works. Unfortunately I don't  
have Libreboot installed, but I see you do


Re: [Trisquel-users] New York Wants To Know: Have You Been Texting And Driving?

2016-04-27 Thread mnaus
Stallman discussed this on his personal site back on 4/22/16:  
https://www.stallman.org/archives/2016-jan-apr.html


"The idea of a tool to determine whether a driver's phone was used for text  
messaging at the time of an accident is fine in principle, but it is almost  
impossible in practice unless it snoops on a lot more than that.  I get the  
impression Android Auto is based on using proprietary software to restrict  
users."


He links to this article:   
https://freedom-to-tinker.com/blog/dwallach/on-distracted-driving-and-required-phone-searches/


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquelize other non-Free GNU/Linux distributions

2016-04-27 Thread mnaus
I agree. If the distro cared about becoming free software, you would not need  
such a script--they would do it themselves.  If they do not care enough, then  
they will have respositories containing non-free software.  This would make  
them ineligible to become an FSF sanctioned officially free distro.


We couldn't help them if we wanted to.  They have to want to change. It is  
not as though they have never heard of free software! Now if you are asking  
why don't we create a free version of a particular distro, the answer is we  
did!  We took Ubuntu and cleaned it of all the non-free software.  Why would  
we want to do that again?  We could use that time making this distro even  
better!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Netinstall

2016-04-27 Thread enduzzer

The rant link is broken. Cannot edit. Here's it again corrected.

http://www.rants.org/2014/09/09/debian_install_solving_grub_error/


Re: [Trisquel-users] Netinstall

2016-04-27 Thread enduzzer

The rant link is broken. Cannot edit. Here's it again corrected.

http://www.rants.org/2014/09/09/debian_install_solving_grub_error/


Re: [Trisquel-users] New York Wants To Know: Have You Been Texting And Driving?

2016-04-27 Thread onpon4

This guy is just clueless. There are so many things wrong with his idea:

* You can't get records of texting without cooperation by the phone's  
operating system. This includes both keeping the necessary records, and  
supporting whatever signals this hypothetical device sends, then actually  
telling the truth. Additionally, the phone would have to actually be able to  
connect to this hypothetical device. So unless you ban all phones which don't  
support and cooperate with this device, which would mean that many people  
would suddenly be breaking the law by not buying new phones they might not  
even be able to afford, it would be subverted easily. Hell, some phone  
manufacturers might use such subversion as a selling point.


* Even if you manage to get this information, you still have to match it up  
to precise information about when the collision occurred, and that's not  
usually possible. There aren't video cameras in the sky recording everything  
that happens on the roads. Does he propose to change that? Even if you're  
fine with living in Orwell's nightmare, it would be a massive financial  
burden to put enough cameras on all of the streets to catch all collisions.


* Got enough surveillance cameras all over the place to see where every  
single car is all the time, and always catch collisions? Well, you still have  
to manually inspect the footage to find the time of the collision, then input  
that time into this hypothetical device. It's not as simple as this guy makes  
it out to be.


* Fixed all the technical problems? OK with living in Orwell's nightmare?  
Somehow managed to ban all phones that don't comply with this device? It's  
not going to work, anyway. The idea is to use fear to make people stop  
texting and driving. But this fear just isn't going to be present until an  
accident actually happens, because no one thinks they're going to be one of  
those people who get into an accident. At that point, this hypothetical  
device will either do nothing but bum the driver out a little bit if the  
penalty is low, or if the penalty is extremely high (like jail time), it will  
just be providing an incentive for drivers to find a way to destroy their  
phones rather than attending to matters that are actually important like  
making sure everyone is OK and possibly calling an ambulance. It's not even a  
difficult task; just find some water and pour it on the phone. Or even  
better, toss it out the window into a river or lake nearby.


[Trisquel-users] Netinstall

2016-04-27 Thread enduzzer

I installed Trisquel Mini using Netinstall and a USB stick.

Grub failed with a fatal error. Solution: remove the USB stick as it is  
/dev/sda.


http://www.rants.org/2014/09/09/debian_install_solving_grub_error/on:

LXDE Monitor Settings wouldn't open "Unable to get monitor information!".  
Solution: install some more packages.


https://trisquel.info/en/issues/15425

Screen brightness was full blast and couldn't be adjusted. Solution CLI  
command.


https://trisquel.info/en/forum/toutatis-brightness-control

Installed Xfce 4.12 (PPA). No wired network indicator in the panel. Solution:  
edit 'Exec' line in /etc/xdg/autostart/nm-applet.desktop to 'dbus-launch  
nm-applet'.


http://askubuntu.com/questions/449658/networkmanager-tray-nm-applet-is-gone-after-upgrade-to-14-04-trusty



Re: [Trisquel-users] "Ubuntu LTS: Many vulnerabilities despite long-term support"

2016-04-27 Thread onpon4
No clue. But I've verified in a Trisquel Mini installation I have on a  
virtual machine; there are no lines including a "universe" section in  
/etc/apt/sources.list. Maybe this information is just stored somewhere?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquelize other non-Free GNU/Linux distributions

2016-04-27 Thread sitereg
They are not non-free. They may contain non-free components whether by  
default or accessible thru the official repository.


[Trisquel-users] Re : "Ubuntu LTS: Many vulnerabilities despite long-term support"

2016-04-27 Thread mtlben
But when you look at the list of packages in Synaptic, you do see that some  
come from main and some from universe.  So where does that division come from  
if sources.list only mentions main?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Who legally owns the Trisquel or 'Asociacion Trisquel'?

2016-04-27 Thread mnaus

I am also not a lawyer or an accountant.

I agree that paying salaries to employees that run a non-profit is no  
problem.  If one of those employee's is the owner (and probably also either  
the President or CEO), there is nothing wrong.


The only potential problem is if the salary is unreasonable.  The basis for  
choosing a salary is the same as in a for profit business. It is based on  
what the employee can do for the company--what their labor is worth.  If the  
salary is greater than or equal to the surplus, then the whole surplus should  
go to the salary.  If the salary is less than the surplus and the salary is  
then increased to absorb the surplus, that could be a problem (again, if the  
previous salary has already been determined and if the surplus is more than a  
reasonable raise).


For example let us say that a 1,000,000 salary is appropriate: last year you  
pay yourself 50,000 and the surplus is then 0.  Next year you pay yourself  
100,000 and the surplus is then 0. Next year you pay yourself 500,000 and the  
surplus is again 0.  And so on.  When the surplus is 1,000,001 then the  
salary is 1,000,000 and the surplus is 1.  If next year the surplus is  
3,000,000, then after the 1,000,000 salary is deducted as an expense, the  
surplus is 2,000,000


In other words, the employee (whether owner or not) should get an appropriate  
salary or be willing to work for less.  I could see the argument that the  
owner should not be allowed to make that decision as he/she is biased.   
However, in the USA we have the IRS and you do not want to mess with them!   
They are incredibly powerful.  They can throw you in jail if you evade income  
taxes.  This means the owner's income is known and others would sue the owner  
for fraud if he/she could not justify the salary they are taking.


More often than not, an owner/founder of a non-profit is doing the work  
because they love the cause and will tend to pay themselves less than they  
deserve (perhaps a reason why somebody other than the owner should determine  
his/her salary!)


In this case, clearly Ruben was taking a big pay cut to work on Trisquel.  
$500/month if Ruben spends 2 hours per day on the project then he is paying  
himself less than $10/hour.  A good programmer should make at least 5-10  
times that much. Even if he took the whole 8,000 it would be much less than  
he should get paid. If he was doing it for the money he would need to get  
paid much much more.


So, Thank you Ruben!!



[Trisquel-users] New York Wants To Know: Have You Been Texting And Driving?

2016-04-27 Thread sradms0

http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2016/04/27/474980140/new-york-wants-to-know-have-you-been-texting-and-driving

No thanks.

My thoughts:
 1.)This may sound rough, but lieberman's son should have, if he didn't  
already then i guess it didn't work, told his pal who was driving to stop  
texting while driving.
 2.)Lieberman says, "I don't think that you have to surrender all your  
privacy rights to get this right."

   -- He is going to spark something terrible if this happens.
   Even if he 'doesn't think' that will happen, it probably  
will.

   Another collection for digital profiling.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Who legally owns the Trisquel or 'Asociacion Trisquel'?

2016-04-27 Thread jason
Imagine that the founder works for the org for 40 or 80 hours a week. And so,  
someone that starts a non-profit there must work for free? How do they pay  
their own bills?


[Trisquel-users] Re : Using MATE for Trisquel 8 was smart, considering that some say Ubuntu MATE is the best version

2016-04-27 Thread lcerf
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MATE_%28software%29#Further_development and  
the release notes on http://mate-desktop.org for far more details.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquelize other non-Free GNU/Linux distributions

2016-04-27 Thread onpon4
You can wish for magic all you want, but that doesn't make it possible. The  
way GNU/Linux distributions organize their software repositories, not to  
mention the basic structure of those repositories, varies dramatically. The  
process of removing proprietary software from Ubuntu is not the same as  
removing proprietary software from Mint, and it's even more different from  
the process of removing proprietary software from Arch. Additionally, the  
resulting systems are completely different. This is why single systems like  
these aren't based off of multiple distros; it would be impractical and  
confusing.


[Trisquel-users] Trisquelize other non-Free GNU/Linux distributions

2016-04-27 Thread alejandrohp

Hi,


I think it is urgent that users can Trisquelize other non-Free GNU/Linux  
distributions.



The script to switch from other distributions to Trisquel should be already.  
No matter Trisquel is not fully liberalized.


What really urgent is to configure the OS to be free with future updates of  
Trisquel.


The user should be able to make adjustments to move to Trisquel immediately.  
The process of release complete-free Trisquel may take longer.



Thank you.



Re: [Trisquel-users] "Ubuntu LTS: Many vulnerabilities despite long-term support"

2016-04-27 Thread onpon4

Oh, OK. Sorry, I thought they were still separate.


Re: [Trisquel-users] "Ubuntu LTS: Many vulnerabilities despite long-term support"

2016-04-27 Thread sitereg
> If it's a concern for you, Trisquel maintains these sections, so you can  
exclude the "universe" section from your sources.list if you want.


No. There is not such a thing on Trisquel 7. Everything is in one component,  
`main`. https://paste.debian.net/441920


Re: [Trisquel-users] "Ubuntu LTS: Many vulnerabilities despite long-term support"

2016-04-27 Thread enduzzer

They should only enable main by default after every clean install.

It's pretty well explained here.

http://www.howtogeek.com/194247/whats-the-difference-between-main-restricted-universe-and-multiverse-on-ubuntu/


Re: [Trisquel-users] "Ubuntu LTS: Many vulnerabilities despite long-term support"

2016-04-27 Thread dguthrie
My point is that Canonical don't make this clear. Some person who decides to  
try Ubuntu is not going to look at the security team FAQ page. They would  
assume that there would be the main repository, supported for the 5 years as  
advertised. So Canonical should have some sort if disclaimer when people  
download it.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Sourceforge requires a phone number for registering a project

2016-04-27 Thread Ignacio Agulló

jade...@openmailbox.org, Mér 27 Abr 2016 01:15:32 CEST:


True, but it didn't say they record IP addresses.


 IP addresses are routinely logged by the system.  This is not  
only usual, but also mandatory in most countries - so in case there's  
a criminal investigation going on, the connection can be traced to its  
source.


And even so, that's a rather cumbersome method of finding someone's  
phone number.


 Yep, you're right.  Know what is a less cumbersome method?   
Having already calculated a hash table for all possible telephone  
numbers.  Taking into account the low cost of terabytes today, the  
storage cost would be cheap.  That way any hashed phone number can be  
instantly matched to its plain number.


 "We don't store your phone number, only its hash" it's just  
lawyerspeak for "Yes, we definitely store your phone number".  What  
else would they need the hashed number for?



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Re: [Trisquel-users] "Ubuntu LTS: Many vulnerabilities despite long-term support"

2016-04-27 Thread onpon4
As a couple others have said, this is the whole reason for some packages  
being in a separate repository. Anything in "universe" is officially  
unsupported, which means not only is it not subject to the LTS support, it  
isn't even subject to the shorter support of any other Ubuntu releases. If  
it's a concern for you, Trisquel maintains these sections, so you can exclude  
the "universe" section from your sources.list if you want. But software in  
"universe" is usually not software that is likely to be a vector for an  
attack.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Wifi for my x200

2016-04-27 Thread Ignacio Agulló

noordinaryspi...@gmail.com, Mér 27 Abr 2016 00:50:49 CEST:


Ignacio, are you using libreboot or a custom BIOS?

I haven't flashed my Thinkpads yet. It sure would be nice to loose  
the wifi dongles if the Atheros-AR5B95 is on the "whitelist".


I use Libreboot.  I got it following these instructions:

the_unconventional's blog » English: Flashing Libreboot on an X200  
with a Raspberry Pi - fsfe's soup

http://fsfe.soup.io/post/590865884/the-unconventionals-blog-English-Flashing-Libreboot-on


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Re: [Trisquel-users] Who legally owns the Trisquel or 'Asociacion Trisquel'?

2016-04-27 Thread onpon4

Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Who legally owns the Trisquel or 'Asociacion Trisquel'?

2016-04-27 Thread 1mehranbaghi

Thank you Salman.
> Nonprofit organizations can pay salary to their employees.
I agree, but can the founder and employee be the same person at the same  
time? (legally)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Who legally owns the Trisquel or 'Asociacion Trisquel'?

2016-04-27 Thread 1mehranbaghi
Thank you for your reply and also your tirelessly contribution to Free  
Software Society. and just for clarity i belief you deserve much more  
financial support than that and i was asking about legal stuff. actually i am  
a little bit confused because in my country law (Iran) the founders of a  
nonprofit organization and even their relatives can't have any transaction  
with their own organization (http://saman.mcls.gov.ir/fa/e/r/ff) (in case  
someone can read persian)


Re: [Trisquel-users] "Ubuntu LTS: Many vulnerabilities despite long-term support"

2016-04-27 Thread sitereg

> How are normal people supposed to know this?

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/FAQ :

What software is officially supported by the Ubuntu Security team?

Ubuntu is currently divided into four components: main, restricted,  
universe and multiverse. All binary packages in main and restricted are  
supported by the Ubuntu Security team for the life of an Ubuntu release,  
while binary packages in universe and multiverse are supported by the Ubuntu  
community.





Re: [Trisquel-users] Using MATE for Trisquel 8 was smart, considering that some say Ubuntu MATE is the best version

2016-04-27 Thread dguthrie
"Linux Mint uses it so it must be the best" seems to be the lime of argument  
on places like Reddit.


Re: [Trisquel-users] "Ubuntu LTS: Many vulnerabilities despite long-term support"

2016-04-27 Thread dguthrie
Yes, it is news. "Long term support" implies support for all the packages in  
Ubuntu for 5 years. Canonical does not say on their website "over 7000  
packages supported for 5 years, but please note that many of the packages you  
might actually want to use do not receive support". I thought it was like  
Debian stable and each one had a maintainer. How are normal people supposed  
to know this?