Re: [Trisquel-users] The future of Libre Computing: Crowd Funding Campaign Starts Now

2016-07-30 Thread chris
It's not that it was naive. If you can't reliably foresee what the ratios  
will be it would be naive not to over-account for things. Not the other way  
around.


The reality is we really do need to get to $150,000ish number IMHO. In fact  
ideally it would be a lot higher. Even though it may not prevent things from  
moving forward it could slow things down. Remember that 100,000 units is a  
small production run in the industry.


Lets not forget a lot of time and money has already been put into this  
project. We need to get it to a point where it can stand on its own two feet.  
Being reliant on essentially the good will of a single entity isn't going to  
achieve the results we need for it to really succeed (by succeed I mean that  
it'll be self-sustaining and future devices/cards/etc will follow... we don't  
want it to be a one-off device... if it is it's the project will have been a  
failure).


This isn't Ubuntu. We don't have Mark Shuttleworth's endless supply of cash  
to keep trying. I don't exactly see anybody with a ton of cash in the free  
software world that's putting out to fund these types of projects.


Re: [Trisquel-users] The future of Libre Computing: Crowd Funding Campaign Starts Now

2016-07-30 Thread chris
onpon4 is correct. There is no ARM port of Trisquel as Ubuntu discontinued  
its ARM build back around 8.04 I believe. That makes it a tad bit difficult.  
It would probably make sense to do a Debian-based version of Trisquel as  
there are Debian ports for ARM.


The way NAND flash on these devices work is such that there is not a  
controller with proprietary firmware (this is how a SSD works, but really all  
modern drives including the spinning disk kind have proprietary firmware in  
there controllers). Thus with the on-board raw nand there is no firmware.  
This means extra steps are ideal to prevent killing the nand. There are what  
I'll refer to as wear levelling file systems to compensate even though they  
are rarely used in practice. This is in part probably why microsd/USB flash  
drives/and internal nand flash has a particularly high failure rate. Many SSD  
drives also have a high failure rate. However there is also something called  
SLC nand flash. Unlike MLC nand flash it doesn't have some of the problems  
that MLC nand flash has.  It's also much more expensive and used in  
industrial environments where things can't fail. We're going to try and get  
SLC nand. We're hoping this combined with a wear levelling file system will  
increase the longevity of the on-board storage. If it ends up not being  
adequate enough for a laptop (and even if it is) we'll be investigating a USB  
to SATA adapter (or similar) so that you could still stick in a traditional  
hard drive. Many of the USB to SATA chips are garbage so we've got some work  
ahead of us. There supposedly are some decent ones though...


 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Development updates

2016-07-30 Thread tegskywalker

How is this trolling? English may not be your primary language and it shows.


Re: [Trisquel-users] The future of Libre Computing: Crowd Funding Campaign Starts Now

2016-07-30 Thread onpon4

> Also, why isn't Trisquel one of the suggested OS?

Not possible. Trisquel doesn't support ARM.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Development updates

2016-07-30 Thread vitacell

But still, Trisquel is much more user-friendly than Arch or Parabola.


Re: [Trisquel-users] The future of Libre Computing: Crowd Funding Campaign Starts Now

2016-07-30 Thread mcz

Quick question about the NAND/storage:
I've read above that there's a driver developed for it.
I was reading this thread  
(https://trisquel.info/en/forum/libre-storage-device), and I was wondering if  
the EOMA68 (with its included storage) qualifies as a libre storage device?


Also, why isn't Trisquel one of the suggested OS?
Not trying to troll or anything, just curious about the thought process.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Development updates

2016-07-30 Thread mcz

What do you suggest for example?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Development updates

2016-07-30 Thread mcz

What do you suggest for example?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Development updates

2016-07-30 Thread gromobir
I'm not really sure about the general financial situation of Trisquel but  
wouldn't it be an option to create a "bounty" program to help fix urgent  
issues? It could, for example, work as follows:


User A is eager to see feature X and is willing to pay 10 euros for seeing it  
in Trisquel. User B wants this feature even more and adds 100 euros to this  
bounty. Developer D (who might or might not be Ruben) then implements the  
feature and gets the money. Doesnt't this sound like a plan?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Libre storage device?

2016-07-30 Thread janbaggerudlarsen
Leah from Minifree directed me to this page about firmware on HDDs/SSDs. Some  
great info there:

https://libreboot.org/faq/#firmware-hddssd



Re: [Trisquel-users] can't restore bookmarks with .json file

2016-07-30 Thread greatgnu
Hmm, probably the json wasn't saved properly by your PC, try open it with a  
text editor (gedit) and see the text in there, so as the worst option you  
should have the urls there..


Re: [Trisquel-users] Development updates

2016-07-30 Thread davidvargas1

Distribution Release: Parabola GNU/Linux-libre 2016.07.27

Gents, I downloaded this version and updated into one of my desktops and  
honestly, it is real nice. Even do I use using Debian libre version, but  
compare to trisquel is way more updated,and still part of the FSF family  
available free OS.


Notes from Distrowatch.

André Fabian Silva Delgado has announced the release of a new version of  
Parabola GNU/Linux-libre, a distribution built from Arch Linux, but  
repackaged to include "libre" software only. The new release, version  
2016.07.27, comes in three variants - "Main" (CLI-only installation medium),  
"MATE desktop" (a live DVD featuring the MATE desktop environment) and  
"TalkingParabola" (installation CD adapted for visually impaired users). >From  
the release announcement: "New install medium 2016.07.27. ChangeLog: fixed  
read and write permissions in $HOME folder; added instant messaging and video  
calling applications mate-extra, linphone, qtox; added octopi-cachecleaner,  
octopi-notifier and octopi-repoeditor since it is needed for octopi that is  
our powerful Pacman frontend by default; added lightdm as default display  
manager; added sudo by default to allow members of group wheel to execute any  
command"


Parabola GNU/Linux-libre is an unofficial "libre" variant of Arch Linux. It  
aims to provide a fully free (as in freedom) distribution based on the  
packages of the Arch Linux project, with packages optimised for i686 and  
x86_64 processors. The goal is to give the users complete control over their  
systems with 100% "libre" software. Parabola GNU/Linux-libre is listed by the  
Free Software Foundation (FSF) as a fully free software distribution. Besides  
a standard installation CD image, the project also provides a live/rescue DVD  
image with MATE as the default desktop environment





Re: [Trisquel-users] Development updates

2016-07-30 Thread Ignacio Agulló

tegskywal...@hotmail.com, Sáb 30 Xul 2016 16:55:26 CEST:


It's called a sense of humor. Heard of it?


 I heard about trolls who try in vain to shield themselves  
appealing to sense of humour.



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Re: [Trisquel-users] Development updates

2016-07-30 Thread ewlabonte

Stranger Things is definitely worth it. And Ruben deserves a break!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Development updates

2016-07-30 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
He doesn't reply directly because he's managing his personal life, like
all of us do, and also because he is working for the FSF.

I would like to ask you to prove that he has an active account on
Netflix before making such statements.



Re: [Trisquel-users] Development updates

2016-07-30 Thread tegskywalker

It's called a sense of humor. Heard of it?


Re: [Trisquel-users] can't restore bookmarks with .json file

2016-07-30 Thread mkl80
errata: I had copied the bookmarks.json file to  
.mozilla/abrowser/7lotmd0a.default/bookmarkbackups/ and the file is there but  
still haven't success. Nothing new happens! 


Re: [Trisquel-users] can't restore bookmarks with .json file

2016-07-30 Thread mkl80

Hello all again;
first of all many thanks for your patient and time responding to my  
questions.

This is what I have done so far:
->I have not the problem of mounting or unmounting a pendrive. I had that  
problem but the forum once again was so kind to help me in that aspect too.  
Many many thanks to the magnific forum!
In fact I have the *.json file copied to my Desktop folder, so I can use it  
from there ( it could be a problem of communication with the pendrive so I  
want to foil that problem too).
->which is incredible is the fact that I had done those steps that I told in  
other occasion and had resulted completely and with absolute no problems.

-> I have the bookmarks toolbar visible.
-> By this time I had tried to copy the bookmarks.json file to  
.mozilla/abrowser/7lotmd0a.default/bookmarkbackups/ and still haven't  
success. Nothing new happens!

What I am doing bad??? I don't comprehend!
If the forum could help me and have the time for it I would much very much  
appreciate that.

Many many thanks to the intire community and keep up the excellent work!
Hugs to all


Re: [Trisquel-users] Development updates

2016-07-30 Thread Ignacio Agulló

tegskywal...@hotmail.com, Sáb 30 Xul 2016 16:03:29 CEST:

Ruben doesn't reply to direct replies on forums unfortunately. He's  
too busy neckin' his wife and watching Stranger Things on Netflix.


Tegskywalker you've gone too far.  The rest of us are no less  
impatient than you are but would never go into personal offence.



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Re: [Trisquel-users] Development updates

2016-07-30 Thread tegskywalker
Ruben doesn't reply to direct replies on forums unfortunately. He's too busy  
neckin' his wife and watching Stranger Things on Netflix.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Development updates

2016-07-30 Thread kkpengboy

Great to hear this update.
Looks like the firefox job built correctly. But the package hasn't been  
pushed to the master repository yet. The trisquel-repo-update job still  
hasn't been fixed...


Re: [Trisquel-users] Development updates

2016-07-30 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
Great to hear this! I think even monthly updates would be wonderful. I hope  
toutatis as well will receive some sorely needed browser love.