Re: [Trisquel-users] New Trisquel 8 alpha images
Hi, the iso image is actually 2.1G. You probably downloaded an incomplete image, as it had not been completely uploaded by 2017-06-18.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Topic locked, huh? Follow up to making Coreboot work with full disk encryption on ASUS KFSN4-DRE
So Libreboot most likely have something less than Coreboot (non-free). Assuming this is the reason, yes Libreboot is a priority. Are you sure that you ext. GPU is supported by free software? For grub.cfg, try also your luck on #grub/#libreboot/#coreboot. Leah might know about it too.
Re: [Trisquel-users] a list of in fact gnulinux libre distributions?
Thinking about librepup using trisquel's packages https://freepo.st/post/b3efy88e though it's probably not up to date (https://notabug.org/dimkr/woof-CE-libre), one could use it to wake up an old computer and make it free.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Technoethical T400s now available
That has been a reaction to the trolls' abuse of the voting system. As one of them admitted, "before, things looked quite the other way round." The discussion was back on track and more useful information about the T400s has been posted since, but they were hiding on-topic messages they didn't like and they were posting off-topic messages in their new attempt to have the whole discussion hidden (moved to the troll lounge - a subforum where they are top contributors, judging by the frequency their usernames show up there). We call on everyone to be on-topic when posting in this and other threads. A big thank you to the majority of the Trisquel community for helping keep the discussion on track and not feeding the trolls. /tct
Re: [Trisquel-users] Topic locked, huh? Follow up to making Coreboot work with full disk encryption on ASUS KFSN4-DRE
OK, some news: the ASUS KFNSE4-DRE does run on one 6 cores CPU, contrarily to what ASUS's website states (I do have a rev 1.05G though but it's the standard version IIRC, stated as not being supported). So make sure you have the exact same board as mine at least. Plus the CPU fan (logically) makes much more noise, which makes me want to downgrade for desktop use. But at least I know I could give it a second life as a powerful enough server. Last but not least, it seems Coreboot landed me in some "jittery text mode", going from SeaBIOS to GRUB was much faster, but the liveCD starts booting, it's a bit slower, and it doesn't go all the way. So, back to 4 cores. It seems it's still about missing modules regarding GRUB, so I'll try again. But the difference between "coreboot without microcode updates" and Libreboot bothers me. I've yet to make Libreboot really work (like booting the LiveCD, and not having an abnormally long boot time).
Re: [Trisquel-users] Technoethical T400s now available
There's a difference between some users using the voting system to express their individual opinions and several accounts (theoretically belonging to several employees of one company) mass-downvoting from the same IP address any dissenting view . I'm growing tired of the name calling and other nonsense so please, to everyone involved, don't push things further.
[Trisquel-users] Re : SSD vs. HDD in Librebooted T400
It is good to have swap: if a bug makes a program leak memory, the kernel will not kill a random process (well, there is a heuristic) once the RAM is full. Instead, the computer will become unbearably slow (especially if the swap is on HDD) and the user has the time to identify and kill the faulty program. Also, hibernating needs almost as much swap as the RAM that in use. That is why you will often read to set as much swap as RAM. I guess having the swap SSD makes hibernating faster.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Technoethical T400s now available
They work as a group and their track records in other threads prove this. As I mentioned before, this has been only a reaction. Also, it is completely false that we have downvoted "any dissenting view". We have used the voting system to restore valid posts that were intentionally hidden and to hide the off-topic messages posted after the discussion was back on track, which we assumed is the purpose of this voting system. /tct
Re: [Trisquel-users] Technoethical T400s now available
I know exactly what everybody has done. I don't want this to progress any further or happen again.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Topic locked, huh? Follow up to making Coreboot work with full disk encryption on ASUS KFSN4-DRE
Some more progress: doing the old "unplug and hold the start button 30s" got me a nearly clean access to the liveCD (minus reloading some Mate apps like "show desktop"). Plus SeaBIOS chainloading GRUB was displayed on the external GPU! But (the one and only but) launching the install starts for a bit, the the screen freezes. I reboot, and back to SeaBIOS/GRUB not being displayed, and no access to the LiveCD (like showing the desktop). Trying again with that 30s trick, still the same display :_( Any idea why? It seems unreliable/unstable. But I'm on to something. Also, it seems there's no kernel panic for now. Maybe it has to do with this text-mode. I'm using a standard Debian LiveCD.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Topic locked, huh? Follow up to making Coreboot work with full disk encryption on ASUS KFSN4-DRE
I've let it rest a bit, and managed to start the install with the LiveCD. I hope there's a way to get the text install from the LiveCD install (it didn't show the menu, but booted directly into the desktop). Also it might be stuck during the install here (blank screen, only the mouse showing). Seems I'm not done yet. And there's still Libreboot to try (if I can build it for a 6 cores CPU).
Re: [Trisquel-users] Technoethical T400s now available
>I don't want this to progress any further or happen again Then remove the voting system, problem solved. It's useless bullshit in the first place.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Technoethical T400s now available
We are in agreement. /tct
Re: [Trisquel-users] SSD vs. HDD in Librebooted T400
Thanks everyone for your input :-). However one question just came to my mind: What about full disk encryption? I heard that SSDs don't like this because the whole drive appears as if it was full and that the SSD can't do wear leveling. Is there any substance to that? I will use the Laptop primarily on travels for work so i want the data to be encrypted. I don't know much about hardware as I'm just a scientific software developer but i'd like to learn what you know :-D.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Technoethical T400s now available
I insist that you stop calling us trolls. I expressed completely valid viewpoints, I did not elevate the discussion onto a personal level, I am not one of your competitors and have no reason whatsoever to be biased towards you. However, I, as well as many long established members in this form (I just think of magicbanana, who gives excellent technical advice since years and years) expressed opinions that you did not like, and you just decided to abuse the voting system and hide those posts. This is a very shameful thing to do and not at all "ethical" - it's quite the opposite of what your name is actually promising. And it doesn't show a mindset that is oriented towards freedom. Calling us "trolls" is a personal attack and does not "keep the discussion on track", quite the opposite. You're violating the community guidelines and should, in my view, apologize for your inappropriate behavior, at least you should stop.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Technoethical T400s now available
If only what you wrote was true. I won't go back to arguing with you, but I'll leave these notes: > I did not elevate the discussion onto a personal level You have: "Then he is constantly whining" https://trisquel.info/en/forum/technoethical-t400s-now-available?page=2#comment-116393 > I am not one of your competitors and have no reason whatsoever to be biased towards you. You are biased: "like when he had this ridiculous avatar or was fighting with thinkpenguin". I care about ethics/freedom of *software* and I quoted Richard Stallman agreeing with me that EOMA68 computer boards are *not* libre hardware. https://trisquel.info/en/forum/technoethical-t400s-now-available?page=2#comment-116393 > I just think of magicbanana He is biased. He fights anyone who criticize ThinkPenguin (about LibreCMC, EOMA68, and even about labelling Ian Murdock). https://trisquel.info/en/forum/technoethical-t400s-now-available#comment-116061 > abuse the voting system That has been a reaction to a previous abuse. "We have used the voting system to restore valid posts that were intentionally hidden and to hide the off-topic messages posted after the discussion was back on track, which we assumed is the purpose of this voting system." https://trisquel.info/en/forum/technoethical-t400s-now-available?page=3#comment-116655 /tct
Re: [Trisquel-users] a list of in fact gnulinux libre distributions?
I like Debian, I really do. I don't like that thing about stability that makes you uninstal the whole DE when you wish to uninstal or replace an application.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Technoethical T400s now available
Please, stop the madness. I would like to support your company, but if you are in fact right, shouldn't you just let this go? It takes more strength to let something go sometimes than to keep it stirred up trying to prove you are right. Please do what I have asked for your reputation, the reputation of libreboot and the free software community which you love. I really want to support a good ethical company. Don't get me wrong, I understand when people make mistakes, but this feels more like a rebellion. By the way, You said richard stallman said eoma68 isn't libre hardware... I am just curious if I could see that information. What you think you saw could be out of date... https://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/support-the-libre-tea-computer-card-a-candidate-for-respects-your-freedom-certification Are you sure that it was after this date? if so, please show me proof I am very curious. I will finish this however by saying, there is some blame to go around, but if you reject this message, I am going to sadly have to look elsewhere in the future. I Wish you well though in other endeavours.
Re: [Trisquel-users] a list of in fact gnulinux libre distributions?
I don't like systemd, because it slows things down more than if you used an init such a runit.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Technoethical T400s now available
I have posted this before: On 28.08.2016 22:30, Richard Stallman wrote: > > But since FSF also encourages people to free the design of their > > hardware, wouldn't be important to tell them that if they promote their > > hardware as "libre hardware" they should distribute the free PCB design > > sources along with the hardware? Or to stop saying their computer is > > "libre hardware" until it actually is? > > Yes, and I am saying that to them. /tct
Re: [Trisquel-users] Technoethical T400s now available
The day when he called Magic Banana "biased" was the eye opener for me. From then on, everything he said was baseless. I hear the chopper blades flapping against air on the roof top... His words hinge on air so to say -- the banality of detachment when he addresses himself as the royal "we".
[Trisquel-users] graphic intel
I have a doubt if trisquel have 3d acceleration support these processors with intel igpu Intel i7-7500U Intel HD Graphics 620 I do not think ? Intel i7-6500U Intel HD Graphics 520 I don't know ? Intel i7-5500U Intel HD Graphics 5500 Maybe ?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Technoethical T400s now available
> You are biased: "like when he had this ridiculous avatar or was fighting with thinkpenguin". How does this quote prove me being biased? I observed your actions and drew my conclusions. "Biased" means already having concluded regardless of your actual actions. Please learn this important difference. Just because I (and many others) think that your avatar was ridiculous, it does not make me biased. Just a side note: I never said that there are no freedom issues with EOMA68 (i have no idea if there are), it was all about how you tried to convey this message. > That has been a reaction to a previous abuse. Even if there had been previous abuse, it wouldn't have justified abusing the system again for your own sake. But there wasn't any in the first place. Unlike your well organized manipulation using sockpuppets, the negative votes for your posts originated in a natural way without any organization. Individuals disliked your post independently from each other. They were just unpopular. > He (MagicBanana) is biased. He fights anyone who criticize ThinkPenguin I won't dig into this any further since MB can speak for himself, but again, unless he actually receives money from or is good friends with TP, he is not biased just because he is in favor of them. Your usage of the word "biased" makes no sense.
Re: [Trisquel-users] graphic intel
520 https://h-node.org/videocards/view/en/1821/Intel-Corporation-Sky-Lake-Integrated-Graphics--rev-07- The last one is a Broadwell so it should work just fine. The first one though is a Kaby Lake, it won't work AFAIK.
Re: [Trisquel-users] a list of in fact gnulinux libre distributions?
It is an error to call only fsf approved systems libre. If you install debian and add no non libre software, it is libre. Debian is the only non fsf approved distribution which provide the option of a libre installation?
Re: [Trisquel-users] SSD vs. HDD in Librebooted T400
The internal ssd software may undo the effectiveness of the encryption. In german http://www.deutschlandfunk.de/verschluesselungssoftware-veracrypt-unabhaengige.684.de.html?dram:article_id=369309
Re: [Trisquel-users] SSD vs. HDD in Librebooted T400
In my experience, encryption on an SSD doesn't cause any performance issues. I've been using full disk encryption (including /boot/) on my SSD for a year now with no problems.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Technoethical T400s now available
The only exception to this rule to release everything in advance is the PCB CAD files for the Computer Card. We’re planning to release the PCB CAD files for the Computer card once sufficient units are hit lkcl has made a reservation about the pcb cad files. The reservation could have gotten a more dominant place. Because of the reservation I do not think, lkcl claims something which is not correct.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Libreboot T400 on Minifree reduces in price once again
Minifree T400 Review! If pressed for time, scroll down to SUMMARY for bullet points. I've received the basic config model of Minifree's T400 laptop today and wanted to share some experience on the ordering, receipt, out of box, initial setup, and performance testing. First some info on me so you know who had these experiences. :) I've used GNU/Linux off and on for work or home since about 2000. I'm no pro, but I know my way around and can install/config most things. My main build at home is a built-myself-for-the-first-time tower running an i5 quad core with Linux Mint 18.1 Cinnamon, and dual booting into Windows 10 to play Overwatch and ESO. I also have a 3 year old Lenovo G505s, one of those $400 intro models with an AMD A8 APU. It's literally falling apart lol. Entry level things are so plastic and creaky. It runs Mint 18.1 like a champ too, although better with XFCE. I'm new to Libreboot/Free software, having been one of the dullards who used to confuse OSS for FS. Not anymore. Having woken up and everything to liberty, security, privacy and wanting to get out from under corporation's feet, getting a free software machine was a great idea! I used Trisquel 7 in a VM for a while to make sure I could hit the ground running, and then ordered from Minifree. ===Ordering=== The web store is easy to use. It's easy to choose a spec and get an order placed. ===Payment=== Minifree prefers bank transfers/wires, and mine only took 24h. On the downside, my bank charged a $30 transfer fee. Apparently there were other services I could have used like Transferwise that would have been cheaper. ===Shipping=== Shipping time was within the policy document despite a big surge of new orders. Well done! Whenever I had questions about this, responses were quick and candid. ===Receipt=== The laptop arrived very quickly. It was delivered over the weekend in like 3 days. I'm amazed. I have an order from the UK for a game that is on its second week and hasn't arrived yet. Minifree sure knows how to pick the best options! Sadly, I got hit with a customs charge of $62 CAD. I don't know why given it's a used machine, but it might be because it came packaged with a document labeled "commercial invoice" and the box description was listed as "laptop". I have no idea how these things work. This T400 is from what, 2009? Would I have escaped the charge if it was listed, "used 2009 laptop" ? Dunno. ===Packaging and contents=== Perfect! Solid box, lots of big bubbles, new power cable. Spiffy. Status of laptop upon receipt You know, I didn't do enough homework. I thought the T400s were maybe 3-5 years old, but they're about 8 years old, and the machine showed it. It's not bad though, just scuffs and scratches. The cleanliness could have been better. There was dust and crumbs in all grooves around the touchpad and buttons. There were several short light to white coloured hairs on or sticking out of the keyboard (maybe a house pet?) and the surface of everything had a yellowish-brown film according to what came off onto the Lysol cloth I wiped the surfaces of the computer with. I got it all cleaned up in 3 minutes with a quick vacuming, some nails-in-grooves digging, and wiping, but shouldn't that have happened before shipping? ===T400 build quality=== Fantastic. What a great design. They keyboard is much better than the later models I've used for work. The 4:3 screen shows the age of the technology in that you can sometimes catch the dottedness of the refresh rate but it doesn't bother me at all. Screen is bright and colours are great. No tint issues. ===Performance=== -Basics The CPU (dual core), HD (160gb 5400 rpm) and RAM (4gb) are perfectly fine for Trisquel. Everything is zippy. Boots really fast, apps are responsive, etc. I'm pleased. -Wifi The wifi card is troubled. I'm lucky to get 400 kbyte/s download speeds on my home wifi network. I don't know what's wrong with it. I plugged in my ThinkPenguin TPE-N150USB wifi usb dongle (https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/penguin-wireless-n-usb-adapter-gnu-linux-tpe-n150usb) as something to compare to, and that little device gets 4 mbyte/s easy on the same wifi connection. I turned off the wifi connection for each wlan device in turn and did wget tests. I did them a dozen times each just to make sure I wasn't happening upon load balancer antics, and nope, the laptop's wifi solution remains slow, and the USB dongle remained fast. The internal wifi has the specs listed on the Minifree store page according to command line hardware lists, so it's the right config. It doesn't make sense to me. I lack the knowhow to really troubleshoot it beyond bandwidth tests. At any rate, I'll leave the ThinkPenguin dongle in and use that until I figure it out. -Battery Do these ship with the original batteries of 2009? I can barely get an hour out of mine. Disa
Re: [Trisquel-users] Libreboot T400 on Minifree reduces in price once again
Hi ariella, Email me your order number and I'll ship you another battery. Regarding the wifi, I'm unsure; use your USB dongle for the time being, but if you'd like I can also send you a new wifi chip to install - with full installation instructions (installing it will not void your warranty). ~Leah
Re: [Trisquel-users] Libreboot T400 on Minifree reduces in price once again
Aw, that's very thoughtful. Let's not act on the wifi just yet. I want to try a few more things. As for the battery, there is a more urgent need for that and I appreciate the help. :)
Re: [Trisquel-users] do you use tox?
https://github.com/gjedeer/tuntox/ Sds
Re: [Trisquel-users] Libreboot T400 on Minifree reduces in price once again
Thank you so much for doing this. Just ordered mine yesterday! Great to see these freedom loving machines getting some exposure.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Libreboot T400 on Minifree reduces in price once again
Thanks :) I'll get your order shipped as quickly as possible.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Libreboot T400 on Minifree reduces in price once again
I was working on improvements to Libreboot's hosting infrastructure during the weekend, but my employee is working overtime at the moment so I should be able to ship out your battery soon. I looked up my records, and I think I know who you are; I've added a note to my outgoing shipments list, telling me to ship you a battery ASAP.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Libreboot T400 on Minifree reduces in price once again
At the time of writing (20 June 2017, 2.40AM): we have 5 laptops packed, 7 laptops configured (but not packed), and another 10 flashed. I'm working over the next few hours and my employee gets here at 6AM - if you haven't received shipment notification yet, you will soon. We are indeed busy. I'll email you as soon as yours ships :)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Libreboot T400 on Minifree reduces in price once again
That's great, thanks!
Re: [Trisquel-users] Libreboot T400 on Minifree reduces in price once again
I've played with my router all that I know how to: changing to either B, G or N only modes, mixed modes, channel width frequency set to 20mhz instead of auto, tried different channels and the results are all the same with the internal wifi. Throughout those I gave the TP USB dongle speed tests as well, and it's holding steady at much higher speeds. So I can rule out the router as the culprit. I've tried booting the T400 with a live disk of Mint 18 in case it had different drivers, but it loads the same wifi driver. I'm next going to see if I can learn about configuration settings. Maybe there's something I can tweak. I've noticed others across the web lamenting about slowness for that particular chipset in different laptops, and for some a kernel update solved it, but those updates were for 2.6 updates, and this T400 with Trisquel 7 has 3.x versions. Maybe it's just the nature of the thing, but can you do wifi speed tests on other T400s in stock to see if they behave the same way? I'm curious to see if they can beat 400 kilobytes/s download speeds.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Libreboot T400 on Minifree reduces in price once again
You should be getting speeds of about 20-30 Mbps or more, depending on your network, ISP etc 400Kbps definitely doesn't sound right
