Re: [Trisquel-users] Mini 64-bit on Old Hardware

[rsmit168]

Well, I've gotten it down to 500ish now, so I guess we are headed in the  
right direction.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

[Mason Hock]

I agree with most of what you just said, except that I don't think heyjoe is 
necessarily trolling. In fact, I think that he has provided some interesting 
information information, and while I question as you do his decision to use 
Chromium I would not risk driving him off when he may be sincere, nor would I 
dismiss him as delusional. He is right about much, and even on the points I 
disagree with he's been reasonable. 

[Trisquel-users] Re : Hot news - Major flaw in Intel CPUs

[infrtbv]

security: a software patch can always be exploited or reversed. Hardware  
fixes are much more secure !!!


what you think about this?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

[Mason Hock]

> I understand that (even without the excellent shovel example) and
> I am questioning the effect of it because accompanied by talks
> about ethics and non-harmfulness 1) that creates the false
> implication of something friendly, safe etc. 2) people easily
> 'buy' free/safe/secure things. In other words - it can be
> exploited quite easily.
 
Yes, I agree with your point, and it's similar to RMS's point which I why I 
suggested the article, not because I thought were unware of the Ubuntu issue 
itself. My only point is that "This Firefox antifeature is an invasion of 
privacy" will be a more effective argument than "The fact that this feature 
can't be disabled without editing the source code violates freedom 0."


> Of course. That's why it is essential that not only Ubuntu but
> browsers should also be exposed. I find it disturbing that IceCat
> was released by people who are so strict and critical to ethics.

It sounds like RMS took your report seriously and I believe they will fix it. 
 
> I would be interested to read that claim as I haven't found any
> explicit evidence of it. They don't claim anywhere they use
> Libreboot but it seems to be a forthcoming step in future:
> https://puri.sm/learn/freedom-roadmap/
 
I don't want to get too sidetracked talking about Purism here, but they don't 
claim to use libreboot. On the page for their latest Librem laptop they imply 
that the laptop is entirely libre but to not disclose what BIOS they use. I 
found another page on their website acknowledging that they use coreboot but 
erroneously claiming that coreboot is completely libre, when it contains 
proprietary blobs. There is also a near-zero chance that Purism will ever use 
libreboot, because post-2010 Intel chips will probably never be supported. If 
Purism claimed that they plan to use libreboot I would be skeptical, but I'm 
not aware of them having made that claim.

> I don't know how to test Tor Browser with tcpdump due to the
> specific way it connects to the network.

I don't know either, but I would contact them with your Icecat results (since 
both Icecat and Tor Browser are based on ESR) and ask them if they are aware of 
the issue and whether it affects Tor Browser.

> As for Abrowser - I
> can't find it on openSUSE's repos, neither I find it by DDGing
> for it. Where can I download it?

Abrowser is from the same developer as Trisquel. It is the default browser in 
Trisquel and the Trisquel-derived Uruk. I'm having trouble finding it via DDG 
too because there is apparently an IE-based browser by the same name. I don't 
have time to look further right now but will get back to you.
 
> Or
> can you show a test which demonstrate that Chromium leaks data to
> Google? Or any other freedom related issue?

Most of what I know about Chromium comes from what Magic Banana and others have 
shared on this forum, including in this thread and others, regarding why 
Chromium is excluded from Trisquel. Magic Banana's link in this thread is on 
its own reason enough. The bug Supertramp links to is apparently closed but 
alarming. I understand that Chromium is currently being investigated by jxself, 
so perhaps a libre build will be possible in the future, but until them I'm not 
going to trust the Chromium developers to declare that their software is libre 
given (1) the material Magic Banana links to and (2) the fact that they have no 
real incentive to care about freedom and only even attempt to meet the weaker 
"open source" definition for strategic reasons.

> As for Firefox again: of course is free in the "legal sense"
> (just like Ubuntu) but if one prides oneself to be an integral
> part of an organization which respects user privacy it is
> absolutely unacceptable to:

Ubuntu is not quite as free in the sense that Firefox is, since it contains and 
recommends proprietary software (see 
https://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.html), where Firefox recommends but 
does not contain proprietary software, but I agree with your overall point.

> Due to all this I am reluctant to use any product by Mozilla.
> Still we use it on our phones because otherwise we would have to
> use Google Chrome (as I don't know of Chromium for Android).

I'm about to get a little off-topic, but if you are using Android you might 
consider switching to Replicant (if you are okay with aquiring and using an 
older device) or LineageOS (not 100% libre like Replicant but much better than 
Android and supports more devices than Replicant). I have a Replicant phone 
that I only carry when I absolutely have to and never use for browsing the web, 
so I haven't really looked into what its default browser is based on. It isn't 
Firefox, and it is definitely not Chrome, but it may be Chromium-based. If you 
live in North America you might want to look into JMP (https://jmp.chat) as an 
alternative to carrying a cell phone at all.

> If one is not extra careful, even through
> Tor one can expose a traceable pattern.

No, Tor is not 

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

[calmstorm]

Chromium has no good free software derivatives, firefox does.

Chromium collects information just like google chrome sending it back to  
google. Firefox does do the same by default... but you can turn it off at  
least.


Also, firefox has free software forks such as,  Abrowser, Icecat, Iceweasel  
(Hyperbola and Parabola's versions of iceweasel though.) and tor browser.  
That's really about it.


Purism is only honest if you don't read much about them except in favor of  
what they say to you.


and last but not least, I get the feeling I am wasting time sending this post  
because you may be trolling us...


If so, I applaud you for that +1. If not, your insane or possibly just  
delusional... xD in that case -1

Re: [Trisquel-users] This made me smile ...

[calmstorm]

Exactly, this:

"They're just fricking lazy and want to make their jobs easier ... (at the  
expense of my privacy)"


They are extremely lazy. They are so lazy that they would be happier being  
born as sloths.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hot news - Major flaw in Intel CPUs

[calmstorm]

My bad, good catch there.

But yeah, governments need transparency on their policies towards their  
citizens. If nothing else...


I thought I had seen something besides that once where he said spying on  
governments is needed, not people obviously, but maybe I read a false article  
or something.


It is possible he just doesn't approve of spying in general.

Re: [Trisquel-users] forum/mailing list discrepancies

[Mason Hock]

>  As for the e-mail addresses supression, it is quite likely intended
> to prevent addresses harvesting by spamming spiders.

I didn't think of that. It is good for example that it blocks the email address 
in your signature. With that in mind I guess its better to make forum users 
write out user at example dot com than accidentally reveal someone's email 
address.

Thanks for figuring out the angle brackets. I should have thought of using the 
html codes . This is another case where I wish edits were sent to the mailing 
list, as the only reason I saw your solution is that I went to the forum to see 
if your first solution worked.

> 
>  As for to enclose something in angle brackets...
> 
> You can use the tags   in
> the forum, just read  href="https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/formatting-trisquel-forum;
> title="Formatting on the Trisquel forum">Formatting on the Trisquel
> forum.
> 
> -- 
> Ignacio Agulló · agu...@ati.es
> 

> pub  4096R/C6AB2D51 2011-08-02 Ignacio Agulló Sousa 
> sub  4096R/BB77B38F 2011-08-02

Re: [Trisquel-users] forum/mailing list discrepancies

[Ignacio Agulló]

On 10/01/18 03:03, Mason Hock wrote:
> Content visiable in the mailing list but not the forum:
> - anything enclosed in angle brackets. This is presumably because it is 
> interpreted as html, but people frequently enclose links in angle brackets, 
> and users of the forum do not see these links.
> - email addresses. Email addresses appear in the forum as 'name at domain'. 
> I'm not sure why this is.

 As for the e-mail addresses supression, it is quite likely intended
to prevent addresses harvesting by spamming spiders.

 As for to enclose something in angle brackets...

You can use the tags   in
the forum, just read https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/formatting-trisquel-forum;
title="Formatting on the Trisquel forum">Formatting on the Trisquel
forum.

-- 
Ignacio Agulló · agu...@ati.es



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Re: [Trisquel-users] Hot news - Major flaw in Intel CPUs

[Ignacio Agulló]

Found this series of articles:

*Processor/CPU Speculative Execution Patching on Linux Tutorial* series:

 1. How to patch Meltdown CPU Vulnerability CVE-2017-5754 on Linux


 2. How to patch Spectre Vulnerability CVE-2017-5753/CVE-2017-5715 on
Linux


 3. How to check Linux for Spectre and Meltdown vulnerability


 4. How to install/update Intel microcode firmware on Linux



 I find the last part to be disturbing.  It is listed in the series
even though it doesn't mention Meltdown or Spectre, as it was a
requirement to patch them.

 Why updating the Intel microcode firmware would be disturbing to
me?  Because my computer is Librebooted and...:

"Coreboot does distribute microcode updates for Intel and AMD CPUs, but
libreboot cannot, because the whole point of libreboot is to be 100%
free software ."

-- 
Ignacio Agulló · agu...@ati.es



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Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

[studio]

> You make a similar point to the one RMS makes in the Ubuntu article Magic  
Banana linked to, which I encourage you to read if you haven't already.


I am familiar with the story about Ubuntu's search forwarding info to Amazon.

> However, because RMS coined the term 'free software', it is generally  
associated with his definition, which is very specific.


I understand that (even without the excellent shovel example) and I am  
questioning the effect of it because accompanied by talks about ethics and  
non-harmfulness 1) that creates the false implication of something friendly,  
safe etc. 2) people easily 'buy' free/safe/secure things. In other words - it  
can be exploited quite easily.


> It is a mistake to think that way.

Of course. That's why it is essential that not only Ubuntu but browsers  
should also be exposed. I find it disturbing that IceCat was released by  
people who are so strict and critical to ethics.


> Again though, in the context of software 'freedom' is associated with RMS's  
four freedoms, and that is what we mean when we call something 'free  
software'.


Which is an excellent example of exploitation of the term (considering the  
results of the test).


> When Purism claims that they use a completely libre BIOS they are being  
dishonest


I would be interested to read that claim as I haven't found any explicit  
evidence of it. They don't claim anywhere they use Libreboot but it seems to  
be a forthcoming step in future: https://puri.sm/learn/freedom-roadmap/


> I'll bet that if you bring this issue to the attention of the Abrowser and  
Tor Browser developers they will be willing to clean up after Mozilla as they  
already do.


I don't know how to test Tor Browser with tcpdump due to the specific way it  
connects to the network. As for Abrowser - I can't find it on openSUSE's  
repos, neither I find it by DDGing for it. Where can I download it?


> However, switching to Chromium because one of their developers told you  
what you wanted to hear (the Mozilla developer who referred you to someone  
who had some control over the policy was actually being more helpful) is not  
a good solution. When it comes to privacy, no company has a worse track  
record than Google.


The answer given by the Chromium dev surely is not to my taste. Yet it is  
more acceptable considering that even currently Chromium's test shows it to  
be a privacy respecting browser. Or can you show a test which demonstrate  
that Chromium leaks data to Google? Or any other freedom related issue?  
Please do share, I am interested.


As for Firefox again: of course is free in the "legal sense" (just like  
Ubuntu) but if one prides oneself to be an integral part of an organization  
which respects user privacy it is absolutely unacceptable to:


1) create a telemetry feature (for whatever purpose)
2) make it enabled by default (do you know that kids who can't read play  
YouTube videos in browsers?)

3) make it not possible to disable without some expert fine tuning
4) close the ticket with "FIXED WORKSFORME" when demonstrated that there is a  
real issue

5) give "talk to someone else" style of answer

Due to all this I am reluctant to use any product by Mozilla. Still we use it  
on our phones because otherwise we would have to use Google Chrome (as I  
don't know of Chromium for Android).


> Honestly, if you really care about privacy Tor Browser is your only option.

I question that too. If one is not extra careful, even through Tor one can  
expose a traceable pattern. For lots of things Tor is an overkill (imo).


> You can't have privacy without anonymity.

I think they are different things. When you go to your home you have privacy.  
You can have a private conversation with someone in a public location. That  
doesn't mean you need to hide your face or remove the name from your front  
door in order to do that, right?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are Big Sacrifice

[ariella]

I'm supposed to delete previous kernels after software update installs new  
ones? Why doesn't it prune this itself?


---
Here's the contents of /etc/default/grub:

ariella@/boot/grub $ more /etc/default/grub
# If you change this file, run 'update-grub' afterwards to update
# /boot/grub/grub.cfg.
# For full documentation of the options in this file, see:
#   info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration'

GRUB_DEFAULT=0
GRUB_TIMEOUT=5
GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2> /dev/null || echo Debian`
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""

# Uncomment to enable BadRAM filtering, modify to suit your needs
# This works with Linux-Libre (no patch required) and with any kernel that  
obtains

# the memory map information from GRUB (GNU Mach, kernel of FreeBSD ...)
#GRUB_BADRAM="0x01234567,0xfefefefe,0x89abcdef,0xefefefef"

# Uncomment to disable graphical terminal (grub-pc only)
#GRUB_TERMINAL=console

# The resolution used on graphical terminal
# note that you can use only modes which your graphic card supports via VBE
# you can see them in real GRUB with the command `vbeinfo'
#GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480

# Uncomment if you don't want GRUB to pass "root=UUID=xxx" parameter to Linux
#GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_UUID=true

# Uncomment to disable generation of recovery mode menu entries
#GRUB_DISABLE_RECOVERY="true"

# Uncomment to get a beep at grub start
#GRUB_INIT_TUNE="480 440 1"

# Trisquel comes without kernel recovery entries to improve security.
GRUB_DISABLE_RECOVERY=true

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

[Mason Hock]

> I see a big danger in this. It implies that free software can be
> malicious to the user and still be called free software.

You make a similar point to the one RMS makes in the Ubuntu article Magic 
Banana linked to, which I encourage you to read if you haven't already. It is 
for this reason that he suggests people shun Ubuntu, while acknowledging that 
they had not infringed on user freedom to modify the software, which is why 
Trisquel was able to remove the spyware features. I was not defending Mozilla's 
privacy violations by calling it free software. I was clarifying the terms we 
are using so that our criticisms are accurate.

> normally free is a
> associated with ethical, so that is the expectation.

Freedom (in the general sense) is an aspect of ethics that in my view does 
include privacy. However, because RMS coined the term 'free software', it is 
generally associated with his definition, which is very specific.

> That's why I mention freedom 0 in the comments.

Again, RMS's definitions are very specific, and I think you misunderstand his 
definition of freedom 0. If I give you a shovel that is too long for you to use 
comfortably, perhaps you can not use the shovel as you wish in its current 
form. It may seem that this infringes on freedom 0, and you may get frustrated 
if I were to refuse to make the shovel shorter. However, I am simply refusing 
to perform labor I do not wish to perform. I would be infringing on freedom 0 
if I told you that you may only use the shovel with certain kinds of soil 
during certain hours of the day and that anything valuable you find while 
digging you must give to me. I would also be infringing on freedom 1 if I told 
you that you may not shorten the shovel, freedom 2 if I told you that you may 
not lend the shovel to your friend or create a new shovel for her, and freedom 
3 if I told you that the new shovel you create for her may not be better than 
the one I gave you.

I'm not trying to get too semantic on you. I just want to clarify the 
definition of freedom 0 because I think you had a very good point in the 
Mozilla thread and it was unfortunate that they jumped on your misuse of the 
term as a way to derail what youwere saying.

> The other question is - how come an average nobody, not even a
> network expert, could make such a simple test (which seems
> essential and fairly easy to my mind) and professional top
> programmers or sysadmins never did that

Whether they never 

> words creating the impression of absolute
> cleanness in which the user can be completely safe, like a baby
> in the hands of a good loving mother.

It is a mistake to think that way. Free software is less likely to be malicious 
that proprietary software because a community of many people who may review the 
source code is less likely to conspire than a single party, and because 
malicious functionality may be removed by community members with the knowledge 
and time to do so. However, that does not mean you should blindly trust free 
software. Healthy skepticism is part of the process by which a community can 
find faults with and improve software. If Mozilla won't make the improvement 
you suggest and you lack the knowledge to do it yourself, you can approach a 
more privacy-minded Firefox derivative like Icecat (as you have done and got a 
positive response), Abrowser, or Tor Browser.

> How can a
> free/libre thing be "respecting your freedom" if it contains a
> product which connects to Amazon, Akamai etc. on first run,
> without even asking you or without even telling you that it will
> do that?

This is a huge privacy concern, and I consider privacy to be a freedom in the 
general sense of the word. Again though, in the context of software 'freedom' 
is associated with RMS's four freedoms, and that is what we mean when we call 
something 'free software'. That does not mean that we shouldn't critize Mozilla 
if they do something that tarnishes the reputation of free software

> I have read some threads with lots of criticism about
> Purism, about how they carefully structure the language to create
> the impression of cleanness, security and safety.

Even with Purism, it is important to be accurate in our criticisms. When Purism 
claims that they use a completely libre BIOS they are being dishonest, but 
there is nothing wrong with them claiming that their Debian-derived distro 
PureOS is libre because it is, and they can be commended for creating a libre 
distro without defending their claims about their BIOS. Similarly, Mozilla is 
telling the truth when they describe Firefox as 'free software' (meaning 
software that respects the four freedoms) but it appears that they do not 
respect privacy as well as they claim.

> different? It is either clean or not clean. We cannot mix clean
> water and dirty water and advertise that it is clean water.
> Otherwise the words free and ethical are already polluted and we
> need new words, which in turn will get polluted too etc. 

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mini 64-bit on Old Hardware

[rsmit168]

That is good to know.  I will look into it.  Thanks.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mini 64-bit on Old Hardware

[rsmit168]

I appreciate the information.  Thank you.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mini 64-bit on Old Hardware

[rsmit168]

That was a thought I had, but I wanted to see if the community had any other  
suggestions first.  Thanks.

Re: [Trisquel-users] (Trisquel 8) Problems with installing add-ons in Abrowser

[svenerik_vn]

"Add to Firefox"?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

[studio]

> newsbeuter

Yes, I have started using it yesterday too. Looks nice. Thanks for sharing  
your experience.


> agree that Firefox does not adequately respect privacy, but it is free  
software


I see a big danger in this. It implies that free software can be malicious to  
the user and still be called free software. So the very term looses its  
meaning because normally free is a associated with ethical, so that is the  
expectation. Would you agree? Of course I am not implying that it should be  
100% bug free but I object to the fact that it is intentionally made  
non-private. That's why I mention freedom 0 in the comments.


The other question is - how come an average nobody, not even a network  
expert, could make such a simple test (which seems essential and fairly easy  
to my mind) and professional top programmers or sysadmins never did that, yet  
they stick to software which they accept as given to be safe? That is what  
really worries me. I don't mean to be disrespectful to anyone but looking at  
facts, logically and sanely, without any bias - we have great talks about  
software freedom, ethics, non-maliciousness, non-spying, endorsements listed  
as 100% free/libre/RYF etc. - words creating the impression of absolute  
cleanness in which the user can be completely safe, like a baby in the hands  
of a good loving mother. But at the same time - it is not quite the case. Why  
are these endorsements created if nobody really seems to have checked  
elementary things? How can a free/libre thing be "respecting your freedom" if  
it contains a product which connects to Amazon, Akamai etc. on first run,  
without even asking you or without even telling you that it will do that? I  
have read some threads with lots of criticism about Purism, about how they  
carefully structure the language to create the impression of cleanness,  
security and safety. But how is this different? It is either clean or not  
clean. We cannot mix clean water and dirty water and advertise that it is  
clean water. Otherwise the words free and ethical are already polluted and we  
need new words, which in turn will get polluted too etc. I wonder if I am  
making myself clear :)


So I am not questioning the technical expertise of anyone but the depth of  
attention given to things and how it is shared. Through the words used and  
through the mockery at proprietary stuff the sharing creates the impression  
of absolutism, as in inspected thoroughly down to the semiconductor by super  
experts. At the same time we see such superficial issues and the company  
"respecting user privacy" would rather send me to talk to another one who  
doesn't care. It is not that I don't understand what they are doing - I  
simply won't play their game. I have uninstalled Firefox, to me it is that  
simple. When one sees a venomous snake one doesn't argue with it - one stays  
away from it, doesn't one?

Re: [Trisquel-users] forum/mailing list discrepancies

[Mason Hock]

Also, attachments to forum posts apparently aren't attached to the 
corresponding email.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mini 64-bit on Old Hardware

[greatgnu]

>looks high

I am running full Xfce on a 64 bit 2007 laptop and it takes 265/270 mb on a  
fresh boot. Something is wrong with your setup.


Btw, with 800 mb of RAM I would go with openbox, a lightweight panel, file  
manager, etc.

[Trisquel-users] Re : How to make Abrowser add-ons?

[lcerf]

See  
https://trisquel.info/forum/trisquel-8-problems-installing-add-ons-abrowser#comment-126142

[Trisquel-users] Re : Hot news - Major flaw in Intel CPUs

[lcerf]

It should work.  One one your extension must interfere.  Disable them and  
see.  Then, by disabling half of them, then half of the incriminated half,  
... you can spot the problematic extension.

[Trisquel-users] Re : Mini 64-bit on Old Hardware

[lcerf]

Your Trisquel Mini's memory consumption looks high.  You should first try to  
see what process(es) take(s) much space.  I do not know if Trisquel Mini has  
a graphical system monitor.  Anyway, you can use the 'top' command in a  
terminal.  Type M to get the processes ordered by decreasing memory  
consumption and q to quit.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mini 64-bit on Old Hardware

[bob]

Have you tried using the 32-bit version? (Running from the Live CD should be  
sufficient to determine if that's an improvement)

[Trisquel-users] Re : (Trisquel 8) Problems with installing add-ons in Abrowser

[lcerf]

I recommend you  
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/dark-background-light-text/


It is great, especially with "my" colors (see the attached screenshot).  :-p

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hot news - Major flaw in Intel CPUs

[leestrobel]

God, my html skills are truly terrible. How do I quote some html code,  
without it being interpreted? Arg!

[Trisquel-users] Re : Are Big Sacrifice

[lcerf]

GRUB does detect /boot/vmlinuz-4.14.12-gnu.  Let us see /etc/default/grub.   
In particular, is GRUB_DEFAULT 0?


You have many kernels installed.  That is quite a waste of disk space.  You  
can remove packages relating to older versions of the kernel (new versions of  
the kernel do not substitute older versions, unlike any other package) such  
as "linux-image-*", "linux-headers-*", ... with a version number that is not  
the largest (in the dictionary order: the leftmost dot-separated numbers are  
the most significant) or the second largest (for safety: if the latest kernel  
does not boot or is defective, you can boot the older one that raises no  
issue).

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hot news - Major flaw in Intel CPUs

[leestrobel]

Yes, sorry, I keep doing this ...

I thought that www.link.com should give a hyperlink to that address, but it  
doesn't. Unfortunately, it seems that it is also not possible to edit a post  
on the forum here, unless it is a reply to someone else's post (which both of  
my earlier posts containing those links are not).


I'll try to stop doing it in future ... :-(

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to make Abrowser add-ons?

[svenerik_vn]

Update 2

Okay, so I checked a little bit in the description of the "Dark Background  
Switcher" add-on and they say:


"The plugin manipulates settings available in Preferences -> Content ->  
Colors, if any problems, just uninstall it and edit the preferences therein  
to your liking."


So I went in there and bam, now my backgrounds are black, my text is  
"sandish" and my links are yellow. Nice!


But... When I do this I have to set the "Override the colors specified by the  
page with your selections above" to "Always".


And it seems, when I do this, a fair share of the images disappear and there  
are some texts I seemingly can't edit the style of (for example the texts  
inside search bars). Also I am not able to change the style/color of for  
example the background of this text box I am writing in right now in the  
Trisquel forum.


Anyone got any hints or tips? Has anyone been messing around with this stuff  
before?

[Trisquel-users] Mini 64-bit on Old Hardware

[rsmit168]

Hi,

As evidenced by my basic question, I am new to this distro, and excited to be  
here.


I am running into an issue with Mini.  I have roughly 800mb RAM available for  
my desktop.  Running the current 64-bit release installed, the OS takes up  
about 650-700.  The hardware runs an AMD Sempron Manila processor circa 2006.  
 I think this has been contributing to issues with getting to the web, and  
then crashing the system forcing a hard shutdown and reboot.


First, is there another place I should be pointing the finger for the issue?

Second, is there anything I can do about it?  

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to make Abrowser add-ons?

[svenerik_vn]

Update

I clicked on the "Open menu" button at the top right corner in the browser  
(just below the pluss-sign-button) and from there I clicked on  
"web-developer" and then "Style-editor" and it got me to this chunk of code  
where I actually was able to change some text so that the background of the  
website I was currently on turned black! Sweet!


Only problem is, when I left the editor, it turned white again. Anybody know  
how to save the changes in "Style-editor"?

[Trisquel-users] How to make Abrowser add-ons?

[svenerik_vn]

It seems to me that it doesn't exist a add-on compatible with Abrowser  
57.0.1. which I am currently using in Trisquel 8 that makes the whole  
background of websites dark/black and the text light(white/yellow etc).
Anybody in here willing to guide me in a direction of how to make an Abrowser  
add-on?

Re: [Trisquel-users] (Trisquel 8) Problems with installing add-ons in Abrowser

[svenerik_vn]

Thanks.

"Dark Background Switcher could not be installed because it is not compatible  
with Abrowser 57.0.1." :/


Thanks anyway

Re: [Trisquel-users] (Trisquel 8) Problems with installing add-ons in Abrowser

[no-email]

You can download add-ons here:
https://trisquel.info/en/browser/addons

Re: [Trisquel-users] (Trisquel 8) Problems with installing add-ons in Abrowser

[svenerik_vn]

Update:
 I forgot the screenshot, here it is:

Re: [Trisquel-users] (Trisquel 8) Problems with installing add-ons in Abrowser

[svenerik_vn]

Update 2:

When I click on the "source code" link it takes me here (see screenshot).

[Trisquel-users] (Trisquel 8) Problems with installing add-ons in Abrowser

[svenerik_vn]

In Abrowser, when I go to "Add-ons" and try to install the "Dark Backgrounds  
Switcher" I just get directed to this (see screenshot) and no add-on is being  
installed. I have tried various settings in the "Preferences" mainly in the  
"Privacy and Security" section like turning on and off the "Block pop-up  
windows" feature etc.


Has anybody else had similar struggles in regards to installing add-ons in  
Abrowser

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are Big Sacrifice

[ariella]

ariella@/boot/grub $ sudo update-grub
[sudo] password for ariella:
Generating grub configuration file ...
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-4.14.12-gnu
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-4.14.12-gnu
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-137-lowlatency
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-137-lowlatency
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-133-lowlatency
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-133-lowlatency
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-129-lowlatency
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-129-lowlatency
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-128-lowlatency
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-128-lowlatency
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-125-lowlatency
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-125-lowlatency
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-123-lowlatency
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-123-lowlatency
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-121-lowlatency
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-121-lowlatency
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-119-lowlatency
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-119-lowlatency
  No volume groups found
done


Weird to see a 4.14 in there. I installed the lts version which the  
documentation says should be 4.9? Look here:


ariella@/boot/grub $ sudo apt install linux-libre-lts
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
linux-libre-lts is already the newest version.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 85 not upgraded.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are Big Sacrifice

[ariella]

I've also done the grub.cfg linking for libreboot. See attached.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are Big Sacrifice

[ariella]

Lucky! I installed that same package and mine hasn't switched to the 4.14.  
It's staying with 3.13 for some reason. 

[Trisquel-users] Re : Are Big Sacrifice

[lcerf]

Let us see whether GRUB detects the 4.9.75 kernel.  What is the output of the  
following command?

$ sudo update-grub

Re: [Trisquel-users] Binaries-free movements back-ending in RPM sources?

[Adonay Felipe Nogueira]

Also, if someone chooses to install GuixSD (the system distribution), it
will have [binary] substitutes enabled by default for their trusted
default server.

2018-01-09T18:35:35-0800 Mason Hock wrote:
> To clarify, GuixSD is a distro that is based on the Guix package
> manager. If you install Guix (the package manager) on Trisquel and do
> not enable binary substitutes, the Guix package manager is rolling and
> sources-based even though Trisquel is not.
>
> Guix (the package manager) uses tarballs, which you say are
> acceptable. This is true whether Guix is used in GuixSD, Trisquel, or
> any other distro.

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Re: [Trisquel-users] (Not Trisquel-related. Free software related) Monitors and more.

[svenerik_vn]

That makes sense, thanks for elaborating:)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Graphic card recomendation libreboot GA-G41M-ES2L

[forum3434]

I wrote a notabug request :

https://notabug.org/libreboot/libreboot/issues/380

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are Big Sacrifice

[bob]

Thanks for this tip! :)

I followed the instructions to add the repository and then installed the  
"linux-libre-lts" package. After that all I needed to do was reboot the  
machine and it was running the new kernel!

(According to "uname -r" it's 4.14.12-gnu)