Re: [Trisquel-users] Spotify - or the like - in privacy

2019-12-06 Thread mason

> It doesn't seem to be possible to use spotify etc in complete privacy.

Hell no.  (See attachment)

> What could be the *most* private way to use spotify (or a similar service)?

If you want something similar to Spotify without the freedom and privacy  
issues, maybe Nuclear would work for you.


https://github.com/nukeop/nuclear


Re: [Trisquel-users] Spotify - or the like - in privacy

2019-12-06 Thread enduzzer

A radio receiver and a free-to-air radio channel?


[Trisquel-users] Spotify - or the like - in privacy

2019-12-06 Thread jbahn
In a family with children in all sizes there is a huge demand for something  
like spotify - with the latest and most popular music.


It doesn't seem to be possible to use spotify etc in complete privacy.

What could be the *most* private way to use spotify (or a similar service)?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 does not boot after updating and upgrading

2019-12-06 Thread jason
If you install linux-image-5.4.2-gnu for example you will forever be stuck on  
5.4.2 so that's not what you want to do.


The idea is you don't install the linux-image packages directly but one of  
the metapackages, which then pull in the linux-image packages as a  
dependency. Those metapackages are the ones that enable you to get updates to  
newer versions according to whatever sort of upgrade rules you want. They are  
described in detail in the table on https://jxself.org/linux-libre/ along  
with the upgrade rules that go along with them. Find a rule (aka "use case")  
you like, and install the package shown.


[Trisquel-users] Re : Verifying install files (Zotero)

2019-12-06 Thread lcerf
In that scenario, the attacker would modify the hashes as well, dstillman's  
point.  Publishing the hashes would however allow somebody to get the binary  
in another way (for instance from a friend with a pendrive) and still be able  
to check if it was tampered.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Verifying install files (Zotero)

2019-12-06 Thread andyprough
He's not right in terms of his company hosting the download infrastructure  
being any kind of assurance of security. Not too many years ago an extremely  
popular Windows utility called CCleaner had its download servers hacked, and  
it was serving up pure malware as "CCleaner updates" to some of the largest  
corporations in the world. 


[Trisquel-users] Verifying install files (Zotero)

2019-12-06 Thread jbahn
I wish to install Zotero (a powerful reference manager which is frees  
software). Unfortunately Zotero is not in Trisquel's repository (I wonder why  
not?). Hence one has to download the install file from the zotero.org. They  
don't provide checksums or other means for verification. On the Zotero forum,  
dstillman, who is an administrator at the zotero site, wrote:


Checksums are useful if you're downloading software via HTTP or from an  
untrusted mirror. If you're downloading from a trusted site via HTTPS,  
there's not really much benefit — if someone could modify the binaries (or,  
in the case of a PKI failure, serve you a different binary), there's a good  
chance they could modify the hashes too. While those would be in separate  
locations with separate access permissions, you basically have to trust us to  
protect our own infrastructure either way, since anything we could set up to  
post hashes to the website at build time we can do ourselves to monitor  
changes without people needing to verify hashes manually. Needless to say, we  
keep access to the deployment pipeline extremely locked down and monitor all  
changes.
And the same goes for updates, which Zotero downloads via HTTPS from  
zotero.org subdomains.
(On macOS and Windows the executables are also signed, but Linux doesn't  
support that, and in any case it doesn't provide much additional security as  
long as you know you're getting the file from zotero.org.)


If dstillman is right, does it mean that checksum'ing files has no meaning?  
And is he right?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 8 does not boot after updating and upgrading

2019-12-06 Thread strypey
OK, apt update appears to be working now, but apt upgrade is not offering any  
upgrades. uname -r still outputs:

5.3.12-gnu

I tried entering:
sudo apt install linux-image-5.

... and then double-tabbing to see what kernel versions are available to  
install. The only 5.4 options were:

5.4.2-gnu
5.4.2-gnue.nonpae

Shall I apt install one of these? Or is there another step I need to take to  
put the repo back in charge of pushing me the latest LTS kernel?


I appreciate your help with this. Just FYI though, this:

wget -O - https://jxself.org/gpg.asc | sudo apt-key add -

Produced some odd display in my terminal. It did some business then seemed to  
have hung. It turned out it was waiting for my password, but the order the  
output came in made that unclear, I only realized because I happened to hit  
the space bar and that produced another password prompt. It might have been  
better to give this suggestion as two separate commands:


wget -O - https://jxself.org/gpg.asc
sudo apt-key add -

... or put a sudo at the start so the password prompt came up before any  
further output :)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Jami version in the Trisquel 8 repos is still called Ring

2019-12-06 Thread strypey
Ignore this, it seems like it was either a race conditions bug or, most  
likely, user error (although I still can't figure out what I did wrong the  
first time). I now have the repo added and apt update is loading from it, but  
I can't actually install Jami due to dependency problems. See the discussion  
at:

https://git.jami.net/savoirfairelinux/jami-packaging/issues/39


Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel 9 roadmap

2019-12-06 Thread fvalvarez
I've never used GNOME, only LXDE on lubuntu and now xfce on trisquel mini. As  
I said - old computers.. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Jami version in the Trisquel 8 repos is still called Ring

2019-12-06 Thread strypey
I just tried to follow the manual instructions using 64-bit Trisquel 8.0.  
Everything seemed to be working until I got to:


> sudo sh -c "echo 'deb  
[signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/jami-archive-keyring.gpg]  
https://dl.jami.net/nightly/ubuntu_16.04/ ring main' >  
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/jami.list"


It didn't seem to do anything and I was left sitting on a ">" prompt. I  
checked my sources list and nothing seems to have been added. There may be  
something I don't understand here, but "sh" doesn't seem to be a program on  
my system, and I can't find anything called that in the Trisquel repos. Is  
there something missing in this command?


If this is a user error on my part, please help! If you can see something  
that needs to be fixed, please share that info here:

https://git.jami.net/savoirfairelinux/jami-packaging/issues/39

BTW that command was cut'n'pasted verbatim from :
https://jami.net/download-jami-linux/#manual-install


Re: [Trisquel-users] Jami version in the Trisquel 8 repos is still called Ring

2019-12-06 Thread strypey

Trisquel is now officially supported by Jami!
https://jami.net/download-jami-linux/