Re: [Trisquel-users] BLAG 200000 Alpha Kickstart Files
I agree with you (RHEL) CentOS have LTS support for 10 years (CentOS version 7 released in July 2014 will be supported till 2024). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CentOS
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Personal opinion here but I'd totally rather see something RHEL-based than fedora-based (I mean, which is the testbed for which and which one's release gets supported for longer?)
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The configuration of the live image is defined by a file called kickstart. It can include some basic system configuration items, the package manifest and a script to be run at the end of the build process. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_and_use_a_Live_CD The first set of values in the kickstart file sets standard features before the actual install begins. These values in our sample kickstart file include the following http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1157197=4 Will there be SuSE and urpmi editions, which dnf (from Fedora) is become unstable due to a weak connectivity? No idea about SuSe, these were BLAG ks files.
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Will there be SuSE and urpmi editions, which dnf (from Fedora) is become unstable due to a weak connectivity?
[Trisquel-users] BLAG 200000 Alpha Kickstart Files
BLAG 20 Alpha Kickstart Files. For those interested in reviving Blag, gdNewHat or creating a Libre distribution based on Fedora. These files were previously available to the general public from the BLAG ftp server before it was brought down due to a break-in. Alexandre Oliva of the Free Software Foundation Latin America had luckily made a backup of them and has made them available. From memory these kickstart files where Blag's then kindly provided by gdNewHat "Hatrack" to Abdur Rhaman Morgan for the build of the 20 Alpha isos. The BLAG-20-Alpha tar.gz contains the folowing ks files : --blag-20-packages.ks --blag-aos.ks --blag-arm-base.ks --blag-arm-desktop.ks --blag-arm-desktop-vfat.ks --blag-arm-kde.ks --blag-arm-kde-vfat.ks --blag-arm-lxde.ks --blag-arm-lxde-vfat.ks --blag-arm-mate.ks --blag-arm-mate-vfat.ks --blag-arm-minimal.ks --blag-arm-minimal-vfat.ks --blag-arm-partitioning.ks --blag-arm-soas.ks --blag-arm-soas-vfat.ks --blag-arm-vfat-partitioning.ks --blag-arm-xbase.ks --blag-arm-xfce.ks --blag-arm-xfce-vfat.ks --blag-cloud-base.ks --blag-desktop-packages.ks --blag-i386-cloud.ks --blag-install-fedora.ks --blag-kde-packages.ks --blag-live-base.ks --blag-livecd-desktop.ks --blag-livecd-kde.ks --blag-livecd-lxde.ks --blag-livecd-mate.ks --blag-livecd-mini.ks --blag-livecd-security.ks --blag-livecd-soas.ks --blag-livecd-xfce.ks --blag-live-design-suite.ks --blag-live-desktop.ks --blag-livedvd-electronic-lab.ks --blag-livedvd-games.ks --blag-livedvd-robotics.ks --blag-livedvd-scientific-kde.ks --blag-live-jam-kde.ks --blag-live-kde-base.ks --blag-live-kde.ks --blag-live-mate.ks --blag-live-minimization.ks --blag-lxde-packages.ks --blag-mate-packages.ks --blag-repo.ks --blag-repo-not-rawhide.ks --blag-repo-rawhide.ks --blag-soas-packages.ks --blag-virt-server.ks.in --blag-x86_64-cloud.ks --blag-xfce-packages.ks Hoping that these files will be useful to anyone who wants to build a new BLAG, gdNewHat or a Fedora based Libre distribution. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kickstart_(Linux) https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Installation_Guide/s1-kickstart2-file.html https://wiki.debian.org/AutomatedInstallation BLAG-20-KICKSTART-Alpha.tar.gz Description: Binary data
Re: [Trisquel-users] BLAG 200000
I have some experience with the Emacs mail/news reader, web client, Org Mode, and the Dismal spreadsheet, all with the accessibility thing called Emacspeak. I found the web client (emacs-w3) hard to use, and only useful on the simplest of web sites; not just referring to JScript, here. Maybe it's time to revisit Emacspeak in Trisquel 7; can run it in a virtual console or an xterm, I suppose?
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Lets hope so :D
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so you just make a gnu/linux operating system automaticly boot to emacs everytime you start it up?
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Not exactly, but I spend most of my tube time on it. For instance, there is a web browser, Usenet reader, mail client, IRC program, etc. with Emacs so it conceivably can be started at boot. M-x term brings up the shell, so..
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Huh, that's interesting. I wonder what kind of distro it'll end up being.
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No freeme. GdNewHat people are working on an independent distribution. They have halted their devolopment of GdNewHat ans suggested BLAG repos as an alternative to their users. See the link to their new distro under development. http://www.pugnix.org/
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I got it from the FSF mirror like Heather.
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It seems like he is building a cathedral. Why can't he release early? Although it is possible that is is just SO innovative that it needs to be unveiled when it's ready.
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I am excited about this. Of course, 20k will be old-ish, but if more users contribute, BLAG can release new versions very quickly because Fedora is 98% free.
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Is it OK to install on a computer, for web browsing? I have BLAG 14k on a laptop and was wondering if BLAG 20k alpha is in a usable state. My *real* laptop runs the *true* GNU operating system, Emacs.
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There is a MATE version. I took the Live DVD for a spin, and it's great.
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I was pleased to discover that the BLAG GNOME 20 live medium seems to have a complete GNOME 3.10, including orca screen reader. I haven't yet checked the Mate spin. My earlier test was on 14. 20 does not seem to see my Think Penguin USB wifi radio; that's for another topic or forum.
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Parabola('s stable branch) seems to be more cutting than bleeding edge to me.
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I can make some allowances for your machine. But they're not relevant in the face of what I see: the fallback error image, the *dreadful* font rendering, and SeaMonkey as a browser.
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So, if your car's engine doesn't work, that car is oppressing you? What if the car's engine dies? Or what if a program stops working because you upgraded a dependency? Is the car or program now suddenly oppressing you? I'm sorry, but your logic is insanely flawed. A tool being broken isn't unethical. Being prevented from fixing or modifying your tool, whether it's broken or not, is unethical. As far as accessibility is concerned, it absolutely sucks when, because of the negligence of sighted people, blind people are unable to use certain tools. This is not exclusive to computers. Many, many books are not available either in Braille or as audiobooks. Pretty much nothing you buy at the store includes instructions that can be read without sight. Many jobs are either impossible or extremely dangerous to do without sight. But none of these are examples of oppression, and if a similar good that can be used by blind people is sold, but with restrictions on its use or modification, that is not better than the good that, due to negligence, is more difficult or impossible for blind people to use. I would argue the opposite: such a thing is even worse. It's an exploitation of the lack of support blind people get in a world of mostly sighted people. I also want to point out that I'm very much into video games. I am actually very conscious about trying to make my games as accessible as possible; for example, my most recent game uses colors to differentiate teams, so I included a colorblind mode for colorblind and color-deficient people. But one group in particular I typically cannot include among my games' users is blind people, because there simply aren't a whole lot of interesting ideas for games that can work without visuals. That you apparently think that, because of this, I am oppressing blind people, and worse than a proprietary software developer, is insulting.
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The first and most fundamental purpose of software is to run. A free program that does not do what the user wants is more restrictive than a proprietary program that does do what the user wants, because the first does not fulfill software's fundamental purpose, while the second does. Freedom is not a fundamental purpose of software. Even if my car's blueprints are freely available, and it is simple to disassemble and reassemble it, **all of that matters nothing if it cannot move under its own power.**
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is there a download? looks awesome! but i rely liked there old theme i wish they had uses mate or xfce insted of gnome3 :(
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Looks good!
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Doesn't SeaMonkey have the same trademark problem as Firefox? If so, it needs to be rebranded (Debian rebranded it as Iceape but later got rid of it)
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Nice to see it's still active! Blag 2000 comes with GNOME 3 (non-fallback) by default, right? That's nice.
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It does (all the while being left in Parabola's dust, of course).
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Where did you get this version of BLAG? The latest I see on the download page (http://www.blagblagblag.org/download/index.html) is 14.
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My Blag has MATE; i got it here: ftp://blag.fsf.org/20/Live/x86_64/Alpha/ thanks to islander. It's not just you, Jaded. Bleeding edge software isn't a huge concern for me, but security updates are. It's still nice to see choices.
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I tried a BLAG GNOME live image, and found that it has no accessibility, thereby denying a class of users freedom #0, nevermind the other three.
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Praise be to Parabola, which allows you to tippy toe along the bleeding edge with a system that won't betray you. Now, as far as BLAG goes, is it true the Gdnewhat guys are now working on BLAG? Their website refers users to BLAG and Gdnewhat proved long ago they could get a fully free Redhat clone perfected.
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I'm glad to see that there's active development of fully free systems. Freedom 0 is “The freedom to run the program as you wish, for any purpose” [1]. This doesn't mean that a neccesary condition or a program to be free is that everybody is able to do everything with a program; that's absurd and impossible. For instance, no program can solve the halting problem (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halting_problem). In the way it's written, it's very open to interpretation, but from the rest of the material on free software it's clear that freedom 0 referes to the absence of artificial legal and technical restrictions to run the program (Artificial in the sense of being anti-features whose sole purpose is to restrict usage, such as digital restrictions managemnt). For instance, software which has the legal restriction that it can only be used with a specific operating system is proprietary, but software which is under a free license, has source code available, etcetera, and depends on a programming interface specific to an operating system is free. Likewise, the user interface of free software may demand physical capabilities that some handicapped people will not have, or knowledge that not everybody has. Neither of the requirements mentioned in this paragraph make software proprietary. [1]: What is free software? - The Free Software Definition https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html
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I agree that it's not a freedom problem, but it *is* a problem and should be fixed with high priority.
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The FSF actually has an article specifically about this: https://gnu.org/philosophy/imperfection-isnt-oppression.html
