Re: [Trisquel-users] Creator of Debian committed suicide…or beign murdered?

2016-02-07 Thread pinmaritim
After the wet season, when the northwest monsoon has finished and before the  
southeast trade winds begin, various items wash up on the beaches around Cape  
Arnhem and Yirrkalla. Among these items are coconuts, breadfruit, pandanus  
cones, long seed pods, as well as timber and the occasional canoe. The people  
in these areas believed these to be gifts from the jiridja spirits to the  
relatives who are still living. They also believe the northeast winds and the  
clouds are also gifts to  them from the jiridja spirits. The living send the  
spirits of their dead by performing the mortuary rites and singing the  
appropriate songs.

http://www.austhrutime.com/land_of_the_dead.htm

We owe you so much
Sad
Rest in Peace Ian



Re: [Trisquel-users] Creator of Debian committed suicide…or beign murdered?

2016-02-07 Thread noordinaryspider

Not everybody who saw the context sees bigotry and racism:

http://archive.is/OPlI7

although I tend to agree with onpon4 that Mr. Murdock probably had an  
unrealistically high opinion of human nature and did not anticipate the fact  
that mainstream media is quickly dismissing the incident as "the nonsensical  
drunken ravings of a lunatic".


I find the spin of the SFBay article:

http://sfbay.ca/2015/12/31/police-confirm-ian-murdock-arrest-before-suicide/

"Gatpandan said she urges anyone seeking help with a suicidal individual to  
quickly call police to get them to the help they need."


particularly chilling.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Creator of Debian committed suicide…or beign murdered?

2016-02-07 Thread legimet . calc

RIP Ian Murdock.

This is very sad news. Unfortunately, as onpon4 said, I don't think this is  
going to bring very much attention to the issue of police brutality.
And to the people calling him "bigoted," please take a look at the context of  
his tweet.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Creator of Debian committed suicide…or beign murdered?

2016-02-07 Thread ivaldaloucha

RIP


Re: [Trisquel-users] Creator of Debian committed suicide…or beign murdered?

2016-02-07 Thread myself600
Yesterday, the Debian Project published an article, which is a tribute to  
Ian's life:


https://www.debian.org/News/2016/20160105

To reflect the loss, they darkened the main page banner and added a black  
ribbon to the Debian logo. Also, an email address in-memoriam-...@debian.org  
was created, which can be used to send your condolences to Murdock's family.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Creator of Debian committed suicide…or beign murdered?

2016-02-07 Thread davidvargas1

Legimet

That is Exactly what happen, to me few times; as I further my reading on  
Murdock forum, I realize, too many grammatical errors, Bulgar expressions,  
racial profiling, very incoherent. Someone else was writing for him and not  
himself.


 Spme people only read, what ever they want to hear and not the WHOLE STORY.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Creator of Debian committed suicide…or beign murdered?

2016-02-07 Thread davidvargas1
I suspect that he was murder by someone, who knew him well by his success and  
achievements, and by his wealth.
I read the transcript and defiantly someone order his death, just trying to  
derail hes commitment to the community. They knew his weakness and did  
maximize it. Why not hire a private body guard? and let friends about hes  
fear? Hes death was intentional and not suicidal. It is so wrong and shady!  
Did he reach someone to help him out.


Sad loss


Re: [Trisquel-users] Creator of Debian committed suicide…or beign murdered?

2016-02-07 Thread calmstorm

may the police get what the justly deserve for hurting this man...


Re: [Trisquel-users] Creator of Debian committed suicide…or beign murdered?

2016-02-07 Thread abhijithb21

Ian will be missed and remembered.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Creator of Debian committed suicide…or beign murdered?

2016-02-07 Thread gromobir

RIP Ian Murdock


Re: [Trisquel-users] Creator of Debian committed suicide…or beign murdered?

2016-02-07 Thread webm

RIP.

All evidence leads to the conclusion that he suicided after being a victim of  
police abuse, you could call it covert psychological murder.


Here are some archives of his twitter before it was closed:
https://archive.is/9HF4c
https://archive.is/DcVrY


Re: [Trisquel-users] Creator of Debian committed suicide…or beign murdered?

2016-02-07 Thread onpon4
I think he may have been tragically mistaken about how big of a news story  
his experience would be. Some of his tweets suggest that he thought the death  
of a white man would get more attention in the media than the death of a  
black man, but realistically, the whole reason cases of police brutality  
against black people get publicized so much is specifically because they're  
black. All sorts of people face police brutality, but it's black people who  
were systematically oppressed in the past (through slavery, Jim Crow laws,  
and the stuff in between), and that makes it especially easy for us to get  
really angry when a white person does wrong to a black person.


I don't expect this to get any substantial coverage far outside of GNU/Linux  
circles, to be honest. And if it does, I think most people will forget about  
it pretty quickly.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Creator of Debian committed suicide…or beign murdered?

2016-02-07 Thread jabjabs

Roll on Ian.

I won't comment on the issues of what lead to this event as there just isn't  
enough information yet. That said we do need to look into it to get to the  
bottom of issue regardless of what it was.


[Trisquel-users] Creator of Debian committed suicide…or beign murdered?

2016-02-07 Thread myself600

In case you missed yesterday's news on Phoronix:

Debian Founder Ian Murdock Passes Away



I hope that everyone here is alive and well.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Creator of Debian committed suicide…or beign murdered?

2016-02-07 Thread abhijithb21
You are right. Media always covers sensational things. To my surprise though  
the Indian mainstream media has covered this news.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Creator of Debian committed suicide…or beign murdered?

2016-02-07 Thread adel
Ian's family could retain a local lawyer to investigate.  Maybe the police  
version is correct.  If the family cares to find out, they should ask for the  
police radio recording, cell phone records, police car computer text message  
records, police officer notes, 911 call audio (for the reported break-in and  
description of suspect), police car video, police body camera video, and try  
to identify and interview witnesses.


Sad ending no matter what led up to this ...


Re: [Trisquel-users] Creator of Debian committed suicide…or beign murdered?

2016-01-02 Thread tegskywalker
Before his death, he said some bigoted and racial comments on Twitter, which  
was later removed.