Re: [Trisquel-users] Documentation fonts

2013-12-13 Thread gramex

Read this thread:
http://trisquel.info/en/forum/ubuntu-fonts-license


Re: [Trisquel-users] Documentation fonts

2013-12-13 Thread subsequentrequests
I guess so. If so, then it's very convenient for the free software community  
to use it! :D


The Ubuntu Font Licence allows the fonts to be used, studied, modified and  
redistributed freely given that the license terms are met. The license is  
copyleft and all derivative works must be distributed under the same license.  
Documents that use the fonts are not required to be licensed under the Ubuntu  
Font Licence.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Documentation fonts

2013-12-13 Thread subsequentrequests

Thanks! As Wolftune said:

Free Software does not conflict with trademarks. This is Free. Naming rights  
are NOT an essential freedom, period.


What I get is that it's trademarked but that doesn't affect my 4 fundamental  
freedoms.


Thanks for the threat! It helps! :D Now I can use it freely! :D


Re: [Trisquel-users] Documentation fonts

2013-12-13 Thread subsequentrequests

Nonetheless:

Canonical, you are including proprietary software in Ubuntu's kernel and  
expressly promoting it in some of your distribution channels. With this, you  
are telling your users that you care more about convenience than their  
freedom. How can you even claim to be open source in this way? Now, when  
someone tells you you are subjecting your users to a license that could take  
their freedom away at any moment, you do NOTHING for months on end. The  
Ubuntu typeface is a beautiful font, but freedom comes before beauty.


Source:  
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-font-licence/+bug/1167425?comments=all


Re: [Trisquel-users] Documentation fonts

2013-12-13 Thread LDrumbler
You don't understand. For the freedoms of free software to be real, they must  
be immutable unless you do something wrong.


The trouble comes in clauses 2c) and the lack of grant of trademark rights.  
Say you want to make trivial changes to the font. Then you have to rename it  
to Ubuntu derivative [something]. But Canonical's trademark policies do not  
allow you to use such a font for commercial use, an important freedom of free  
software. Depending on the trademark, any number of other freedoms can be  
taken away.


Even if it isn't trademarked, the font name may still become a trademark at  
any time, meaning your fundamental freedoms may be taken away at any time,  
meaning the license is non-free.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Documentation fonts

2013-12-13 Thread subsequentrequests
Oh, got it! So, I guess beautiful but harmful... :/ You're really into this  
stuff as I see! ;)  Is there a better option like this font? What font would  
you recommend?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Documentation fonts

2013-12-13 Thread LDrumbler
Finding a similar typeface is difficult in this case. Ubuntu is a pioneering  
typeface like Times or Courier, and there isn't much like it.


As an alternative, I recommend either PT Sans (available from Google dot com  
slash fonts, to which I can't link because they also recommend proprietary  
fonts) or QU Sans, which I've attached  
(http://trisquel.info/files/QU_Sans.tar__0.gz). The trouble with PT Sans is  
that the capital Q's descender isn't attached to the letter, which greatly  
annoys me. So I modified the font to use the Q from PT Mono, and now it looks  
perfect! (And it's only because of free software that I'm allowed to do stuff  
like this.)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Documentation fonts

2013-12-11 Thread adel . afzal
It's a sans font, and you're right it is really nice to look at.  Is it the  
official Ubuntu font?


Wikipedia says that the Ubuntu font license is copyleft:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28typeface%29#Ubuntu_Font_Licence


Re: [Trisquel-users] Documentation fonts

2013-12-09 Thread tegskywalker
Serif fonts are said to be more legible on paper while Sans Serif is for any  
type of screen. If the documentation is to be online online only, then maybe  
keeping it at a Sans font is better. Even if a person prints the docs on  
paper, it doesn't make the Sans font automatically unreadable.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Documentation fonts

2013-12-09 Thread subsequentrequests
One thing I can assure, which is that, you can feel more comfortable reading  
some sort of fonts. And perhaps that can make you feel like you desire to  
read more, and you increase you overall performance XD at reading. Like  
some sort of placebo effect.


It happens to me with this font, and I wonder if you can tell me what font it  
is and if it is free (I mean, as in freedom)  
http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/web-forums


I truly feel comfortable reading that sort of font, perhaps, it's just a  
placebo...XD


Re: [Trisquel-users] Documentation fonts

2013-12-09 Thread subsequentrequests
I already found it! XD 


[Trisquel-users] Documentation fonts

2013-12-07 Thread adel . afzal
I read somewhere that serif fonts are easier to read than sans serif fonts.   
Wikipedia says so as well, but it also says that studies have been  
inconclusive.


What do you guys think?  If Serif is probably easier to read, should we  
change the Documentation's body text to a serif font?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serif#cite_note-6


Re: [Trisquel-users] Documentation fonts

2013-12-07 Thread gramex

It depends if the text is on screen (72 DPI) or on paper.