Re: [Trisquel-users] FCC Rules might force Wifi router vendors to lockdown their firmware!
The other problem with the logic that the FCC is using is that if they are to follow through with this to try and control the spectrum they now have to lock down firmware and drivers for WiFi cards on computers and everything else. Also, I can put a really high gain antenna or a signal amplifier on a router without even bothering with firmware. Their plan just isn't effective at dealing with the issue and if it is causing more harm than good it shouldn't be done. If I can help you in any way Chris, just send me a message.
Re: [Trisquel-users] FCC Rules might force Wifi router vendors to lockdown their firmware!
Corporations have just as much incentives to spy on you, if not more.
Re: [Trisquel-users] FCC Rules might force Wifi router vendors to lockdown their firmware!
Many technology companies are in a position to spy, but it's not always within there business model to do so, and could cause PR problems to do so. It's these companies for which we have some hope provided the government doesn't swoop in and restrict them from letting us have control over own hardware.
Re: [Trisquel-users] FCC Rules might force Wifi router vendors to lockdown their firmware!
Whatever the given reason is for this decision, you can rest assured that the NSA is probably behind it. There's no easier way to spy on the country than to make sure every router sold has a back door to facilitate it.
Re: [Trisquel-users] FCC Rules might force Wifi router vendors to lockdown their firmware!
Chris Said: There is some other motivator behind this I suspect. I got to agree with you on this one.
Re: [Trisquel-users] FCC Rules might force Wifi router vendors to lockdown their firmware!
How about disobeying the government. The government that rules over us worthless scumbag piece-of-shit peons is incompatible with any concept of freedom, even freedom to breath for many people in the world who have been burned alive by this government. How about disobeying them and when and if they come for you, physically fighting them to the death. If everyone did that we'd all be free or dead or both.
Re: [Trisquel-users] FCC Rules might force Wifi router vendors to lockdown their firmware!
How about disobeying their rules and when they come to imprison you, kill them dead? That is what they did when they committed treason against britian, but for some reason we have to obey them in everything?
Re: [Trisquel-users] FCC Rules might force Wifi router vendors to lockdown their firmware!
Please stay tuned...
Re: [Trisquel-users] FCC Rules might force Wifi router vendors to lockdown their firmware!
A search on didn't work for me yesterday, but today a search on brought me here: http://trisquel.info/en/forum/ot-foss-skype-replacement so all is no lost. What I'm thinking about would be the equivalent of ham radio or citizens band radio, given that the wifi built into our computers can talk to other computers in the same household or workgroup already, and that there is enough signal strength to pick up other workgroups in the vicinity.
Re: [Trisquel-users] FCC Rules might force Wifi router vendors to lockdown their firmware!
Sounds a bit like https://thefnf.org/
Re: [Trisquel-users] FCC Rules might force Wifi router vendors to lockdown their firmware!
The problem is more along the lines that it's software defined and the way that the chips work that are used in routers is such that the easy/only real solution for manufacturers (to be compliant with the new(?) proposed rule) is to lock down the router. That is to make it such that you can only flash signed firmware.
Re: [Trisquel-users] FCC Rules might force Wifi router vendors to lockdown their firmware!
Isn't this the real issue: http://www.irjes.com/Papers/vol3-issue11/L3118391.pdf If it is, why do I get no Google hits for peer to peer network +trisquel (or linux, for that matter ? Isn't a peer to peer network the ultimate aim of free software ?
Re: [Trisquel-users] FCC Rules might force Wifi router vendors to lockdown their firmware!
If it is, why do I get no Google hits for your saying if you type linux into google nothing comes up?? if that is the case then i guess its censorship are you saying this?
Re: [Trisquel-users] FCC Rules might force Wifi router vendors to lockdown their firmware!
The aim of the free software movement isn't a peer to peer network. That is a separate issue. The aim of the free software movement is user freedom. And what do you mean, a peer to peer network? There are already such things, aren't there?
Re: [Trisquel-users] FCC Rules might force Wifi router vendors to lockdown their firmware!
Agree, well that will be an issue for those 3rd party software for routers.
Re: [Trisquel-users] FCC Rules might force Wifi router vendors to lockdown their firmware!
chaosesqueteam I tell you what, I believe the person that is not free is you!
Re: [Trisquel-users] FCC Rules might force Wifi router vendors to lockdown their firmware!
To be honest, I'm inclined to expect this to be the case... I mean, the new rule in question is actually a year old (even though devices can still be sold under the old rules for another year, if I read the page correctly), so if freedom-respecting firmware is forbidden because of it, why hasn't the FSF or EFF said anything about it? I think it's ridiculous that the FCC would require certain hardware to be defective by design; if some modifications can cause a problem, those behaviors themselves should be made illegal, and the only thing vendors should be required to do, maybe, is inform consumers that those behaviors are illegal. Still, it looks to me like the fear of alternative operating systems being forbidden might be unjustified.
Re: [Trisquel-users] FCC Rules might force Wifi router vendors to lockdown their firmware!
America is not a free country. There is very little freedom.
Re: [Trisquel-users] FCC Rules might force Wifi router vendors to lockdown their firmware!
Apparently some people ACT PARANOIAC AND draw conclusions, without BOTHERING RESEARCHING INTO THE MATTER. The FCC is only wanting to control VERY SPECIFIC items, like transmission power and frequency. The FCC has zero interest in any other aspect of the devices. The FCC ONLY cares about the settings that have any (direct) impact on the RF transmissions. Too Simple, read the FCC article.
Re: [Trisquel-users] FCC Rules might force Wifi router vendors to lockdown their firmware!
i just ordered one well i guess now the world is worse :/...
[Trisquel-users] FCC Rules might force Wifi router vendors to lockdown their firmware!
http://www.cnx-software.com/2015/07/27/new-fcc-rules-may-prevent-installing-openwrt-on-wifi-routers/ You might want to pickup a LibreCMC router while you can...
