Re: [Trisquel-users] Icecat seems very outdated, what browser *should* one be using?

2019-08-07 Thread lovexdrew

I tried this with the latest Icecat with a fresh install of Trisquel Mini.

I'm happy to report that it does in fact work, but with one extra step, you  
have to reboot before Icecat shows up anywhere. Once you reboot, it's fine.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Icecat seems very outdated, what browser *should* one be using?

2019-04-16 Thread strypey
> "general policy is to freeze package versions on the release of a given  
Trisquel version and then apply only security patches/bug fixes. But the  
version number remains frozen."


I'm confused by this. The version number of ABrowser seems to be regularly  
incremented. But not IceCat? Does the policy on this depend on whether it's  
part of the default application set or not? Or is ABrowser just the exception  
to the rule?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Icecat seems very outdated, what browser *should* one be using?

2019-02-27 Thread sevn

What does it mean to "have it listed in ones PATH variable"?

>>  In this way executing that file

Couldn't u just execute

"$ /home/$USER/icecat/icecat"

without doing the

"$ home/$USER/icecat/icecat > ~/.local/bin/icecat"

first, and still get the same result?

Thank u


Re: [Trisquel-users] Icecat seems very outdated, what browser *should* one be using?

2019-02-26 Thread mason
> In any case, it seems I should not assume that everyone has these  
directories in their path.


And I've updated the script I linked to accordingly.

https://notabug.org/chaosmonk/mozilla-tarball-install/commit/5b5179867940191bb88402ce5fee8dbb4fdcb72b


Re: [Trisquel-users] Icecat seems very outdated, what browser *should* one be using?

2019-02-26 Thread mason
> But I actually believe he added that path. 'echo $PATH' does not include  
~/local/bin on my system.


~/.profile does contain these lines

# set PATH so it includes user's private bin directories
PATH="$HOME/bin:$HOME/.local/bin:$PATH"

but I am pretty sure that I did not add them. I just booted into a live  
Trisquel ISO and ~/.profile contains the same lines, and the output of "echo  
$PATH" includes /home/trisquel/bin and /home/trisquel/.local/bin


Did you perhaps upgrade to Trisquel 8 from Trisquel 7? Maybe the default  
~/.profile only contains these lines in Trisquel 8.


In any case, it seems I should not assume that everyone has these directories  
in their path.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Icecat seems very outdated, what browser *should* one be using?

2019-02-26 Thread mason

Looks like Magic Banana has answered your questions already.

Since writing the post you replied to, I've written some scripts to do what I  
suggested automatically and in a cleaner way.


https://notabug.org/chaosmonk/mozilla-tarball-install


Re: [Trisquel-users] Icecat seems very outdated, what browser *should* one be using?

2019-02-26 Thread sevn

This is excellent!

I have some questions for you.

Q 1.
Do the $ mkdir ~/.local/bin-command make a folder/directory called "bin"  
inside the .local folder/dir inside the "home" folder/dir? And if that's what  
it does; any specific reason(s) for why u suggest to do this as the first  
step?


Q 2.
What exactly is it the $ echo "/home/$USER/icecat/icecat >  
~/.local/bin/icecat-command does?


:)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Icecat seems very outdated, what browser *should* one be using?

2019-02-26 Thread calmstorm

Doesn't midori suck anyways due to being extremely outdated and abandoned?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Icecat seems very outdated, what browser *should* one be using?

2019-02-22 Thread Mason Hock
> Does Trisquel contain a new enough version of WebKit to meet Midori's
> requirement (Hyperbola doesn't)?

I had no problems building Midori 7 in Trisquel 8. I haven't tried with
Hyperbola, but I'm surprised it doesn't work, since Hyperbola stable is
based on a 2017 snapshot and Trisquel 8 is based on a 2016 snapshot.
Maybe it has to do with some difference between Debian and Arch
packaging?


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Re: [Trisquel-users] Icecat seems very outdated, what browser *should* one be using?

2019-02-22 Thread lovexdrew

This worked! It's great! Thank you!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Icecat seems very outdated, what browser *should* one be using?

2019-02-14 Thread rsys

surf 2 from suckless.org hast minimal code and good configuration
example: $: surf -sg duck.com
-sg for no script and no geolocation 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Icecat seems very outdated, what browser *should* one be using?

2019-02-14 Thread rsys

surf 2 from suckless.org hast minimal code and good configuration
example: $: surf -sg duck.com
-sg for no script and no geolocation 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Icecat seems very outdated, what browser *should* one be using?

2019-02-14 Thread richardmillea
I've been looking into text browsers lately. I also came across one called  
'Links2'. It is a text browser which will also display images (or not - based  
on preference).


I have found it useful to help combat procrastination. I find that so many  
websites now are more interested in grabbing attention and generating clicks.  
It's very distracting, and I also find it a very inefficient way of accessing  
information. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Icecat seems very outdated, what browser *should* one be using?

2019-02-09 Thread Mason Hock
> I could run it from a tarball but
> I'm not savvy enough to install it from one.

If you're running it from the tarball, here's what I suggest doing so
that you can launch it from a terminal or from menus as if it were
installed.

If you have Icecat 52 installed from the Trisquel repos, remove it.

$ sudo apt remove icecat

Download and extract the tarball to your home folder

$ cd ~
$ wget 
https://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/gnu.org/gnu/gnuzilla/60.3.0/icecat-60.3.0.en-US.gnulinux-x86_64.tar.bz2
$ tar xf icecat-60.3.0.en-US.gnulinux-x86_64.tar.bz2
$ rm icecat-60.3.0.en-US.gnulinux-x86_64.tar.bz2

Create a script with which to launch Icecat from a terminal.

$ mkdir ~/.local/bin
$ echo "/home/$USER/icecat/icecat > ~/.local/bin/icecat
$ chmod +x ~/.local/bin/icecat

After this you can run "icecat" in a terminal to launch Icecat.

Create a desktop file with which to launch Icecat from menus. Use your
preferred text editor to create "~/.local/share/applications/icecat.desktop"
containing the following (replace both instances of "chaosmonk" with
your username):

[Desktop Entry]
Name=Icecat
Exec=/home/chaosmonk/icecat/icecat
Terminal=false
Type=Application
Icon=/home/chaosmonk/icecat/browser/chrome/icons/default/default128.png
Categories=Network;WebBrowser;

After this Icecat should appear in menus and launchers.


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Re: [Trisquel-users] Icecat seems very outdated, what browser *should* one be using?

2019-02-09 Thread alonivtsan
I could run it from a tarball but I'm not savvy enough to install it from  
one.


You just need to unpack the tarball and run the icecat file from the folder.

$ cd icecat-directory
$ ./icecat

 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Icecat seems very outdated, what browser *should* one be using?

2019-02-09 Thread alonivtsan
Does Trisquel contain a new enough version of WebKit to meet Midori's  
requirement (Hyperbola doesn't)?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Icecat seems very outdated, what browser *should* one be using?

2019-02-09 Thread mason

> Midori released new releases in the last 6 months - versions 6.0 and 7.0
> use a newer WebKit. You can install it via Snap:
> github.com/midori-browser/core

Snap was removed from Trisquel due to freedom issues.[1] I have
submitted a merge request to backport Midori 7,[2] but I'm not sure
if/when it will be merged. In the meantime I have just uploaded the
source to a PPA,[3] which the OP or whoever can install with

$ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:chaosmonk/ppa
$ sudo apt-get update
$ sudo apt install midori

[1] https://trisquel.info/en/issues/23918
[2] https://devel.trisquel.info/trisquel/package-helpers/merge_requests/215



Re: [Trisquel-users] Icecat seems very outdated, what browser *should* one be using?

2019-02-09 Thread jason
Similar to Debian stable, general policy is to freeze package versions on the  
release of a given Trisquel version and then apply only security patches/bug  
fixes. But the version number remains frozen. I personally like this policy.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Icecat seems very outdated, what browser *should* one be using?

2019-02-09 Thread lovexdrew

OH. Midori moved to github.

Hunnh. Alright. That's weird. So is there a special reason why the regular  
Icecat can't be in he repos? I could run it from a tarball but I'm not savvy  
enough to install it from one.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Icecat seems very outdated, what browser *should* one be using?

2019-02-09 Thread lovexdrew

Oh jeeze, I got that mixed up.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Icecat seems very outdated, what browser *should* one be using?

2019-02-09 Thread alonivtsan
Midori released new releases in the last 6 months - versions 6.0 and 7.0 use  
a newer WebKit. You can install it via Snap:

github.com/midori-browser/core

There's also a newer version of Icecat (60.3) which you can install manually  
by unpacking the tar.bz2 file:

ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gnuzilla/60.3.0/


[Trisquel-users] Icecat seems very outdated, what browser *should* one be using?

2019-02-09 Thread lovexdrew
I've installed Trisquel Mini and I love it. I love Trisquel mini. It's so  
much faster than Trisquel on my Libreboot X60.


The browser it comes with is Midori, a browser I fell in love with when it  
came around but the project died like 4 years ago and AFAIK it still uses a  
build of webkit that has a bunch of secuirty issues, which will never be  
fixed since the project is dead.


I did [ sudo apt-get install icecat] to use the browser that normally comes  
with Trisquel and I've found that it and some of it's addons are outdated. As  
of yesterday installing Icecat means you can't visit *any* websites using  
HTTPS, you will always get a 'content encoding error' which can only be fixed  
by disableing all addons. I'm not sure which one is doing it, I can only tell  
that it's not spyblock or httpseverywhere.



I tried to use the links icecat provides to install AdblockEdge and got a  
404.


I tried to install Ublock Origin from the mozilla website. I can't install  
it, it gives me this: This add-on requires a newer version of Firefox (at  
least version 55.0). You are using Firefox 52.0.




I tried to use github and my schools website for homework, github renders a  
little weird, my school website is entirely broken. Both give errors saying  
my browser is outdated.





So, what *should* I be using? What are you all using with Trisquel?