[Trisquel-users] Lantern - An app to end censorship

2014-08-14 Thread gary02121993

Fight For The Internet (FFTF) told me about it via mail subscription.
Here's the link: https://www.getlantern.org/


Re: [Trisquel-users] Lantern - An app to end censorship

2014-08-14 Thread franparpe

Hello and thank you for telling us about the project.

But, sadly, there is a problem with it: it requires you to use a google  
accont which I find counter-productive.


If there is an alternative to using google, pleas tell.

Thank you


Re: [Trisquel-users] Lantern - An app to end censorship

2014-08-14 Thread onpon4
It doesn't seem to have any advantage over Tor, unless it's faster, maybe.  
Isn't access with anonymity better than just access?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Lantern - An app to end censorship

2014-08-14 Thread adrian . malacoda
A number of red flags popped out to me, aside from the dependency on Google  
services (which they claim they will remove soon[1])


Readme[2] claims that it requires Oracle JDK specifically, and OpenJDK will  
not work. As is typical, they don't explain why this is the case. Now, I know  
Java people want everyone to use Oracle JDK as a matter of habit, so maybe it  
will work with OpenJDK and they just never bothered to test it.


Readme also states that the installer is built with proprietary tools. This  
isn't a problem if you build it from source. It may or may not depend on  
Chrome (apparently they removed this in a later version) or it may or may not  
bundle a Chromium based UI (which is not apparent).


The project also specifically targets Ubuntu "Linux" instead of GNU/Linux in  
general, which shouldn't cause problems but is a red flag for me in general.


[1] https://github.com/getlantern/lantern/issues/1717
[2] https://github.com/getlantern/lantern


Re: [Trisquel-users] Lantern - An app to end censorship

2014-08-14 Thread franparpe

I agree with you


Re: [Trisquel-users] Lantern - An app to end censorship

2014-08-14 Thread onpon4
I don't consider saying "Linux" when they mean "GNU/Linux" to be a red flag  
in particular; such projects include GNOME, LibreOffice, Python, and Tor. I  
don't consider any of these projects to be hostile to free/libre software.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Lantern - An app to end censorship

2014-08-14 Thread shiretoko

"Readme also states that the installer is built with proprietary tools."

Normally, we don't even know whether the binaries on our system are really  
made of the correct sources or not.
Thousands of free software project may also use proprietary tools for  
compiling but don't state it explicitly in the readme file. Don't know if  
that's really a sensible consideration.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Lantern - An app to end censorship

2014-08-14 Thread legimet . calc
I believe it works in OpenJDK:  
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/lantern-users-en/ac7gttkqjzo.




Re: [Trisquel-users] Lantern - An app to end censorship

2014-08-14 Thread adrian . malacoda
The red flag is more that they target only Ubuntu, instead of GNU/Linux in  
general. That may or may not be a problem in practice, however.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Lantern - An app to end censorship

2014-08-14 Thread onpon4
Ah, I get what you mean. But it doesn't really seem like that's what they're  
saying; they have a link that says "Linux" and links to a deb file. It looks  
more like they don't understand that not all GNU/Linux distros are  
Debian-based.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Lantern - An app to end censorship

2014-08-16 Thread arielxgbarton

can't you just use TOR?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Lantern - An app to end censorship

2014-08-18 Thread davidvargas1
 Honestly, The product sounds real good in theory, but is about bandwidth and  
accessibility to my computer so others could throttle on it, and for me it  
needs more {CLARITY} when it comes to privacy, security and integrity.


 At least in thor is more clear and specific, If you follow the instructions  
of thor to avoid detection and maintain complete anomity, I dont see, why  
should install such product without been testing throughly.


 Here is another concern, What does FSF has to say about it? The FSF is  
already sposoring thor and not lantern.


 There is a old saying, when stuff sounds to be truth, is when you are been  
deceived and slime


 Thor had a rough start, but when they fix there errors, and fine tune such  
program it does the job.


Try to do a trace route using thor, or scan port a web site using thor, you  
will notice the origin IP is someone elses.





Re: [Trisquel-users] Lantern - An app to end censorship

2014-08-18 Thread Andrew Roffey
gary02121993 wrote:
> Fight For The Internet (FFTF) told me about it via mail subscription.
> Here's the link: https://www.getlantern.org/

For those asking about the difference between Tor and Lantern, Lantern
is a censorship circumvention mechanism but not an anonymity network.

Lantern can also be used as a Tor "Pluggable Transport" as an
alternative to obfs3, scramblesuit, flashproxy and others. However,
obfs3 is still most recommended by the Tor project for censored users.

https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/PluggableTransports

Andrew.