Re: [Trisquel-users] Lemote loongson cpus' performance and software?

2014-09-25 Thread radiowavers
Tekmote.nl prices are about 5 times more expensive than from China with  
shipping.


Here are some examples of real prices for 8089B model:

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Lemote-Yeeloong-8089B-8-9-opensource-laptop-Loongson-CPU-inside-mini-notebook-computer-linux-pc-for/2036803548.html

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Lemote-Yeeloong-8089B-8-9-opensource-laptop-Loongson-CPU-inside-mini-notebook-computer-linux-pc-for/2036919869.html

Just $40-$60 , with free shipping for most countries. Half year ago I saw it  
on AliExpress too, it costed $100. These prices are nice and fair, because  
several years old netbook just should not cost 240 euro. I hate speculator /  
profiteer attitude of Tekmote.nl


Re: [Trisquel-users] Lemote loongson cpus' performance and software?

2014-09-23 Thread Michał Masłowski
Loongson is an independent implementation of MIPS with different
internals, they do license MIPS from ImgTec for naming and patents.

They plan to use Vivante GPUs in their future devices, not PowerVR.


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Re: [Trisquel-users] Lemote loongson cpus' performance and software?

2014-09-23 Thread svhaab
Thank you. Do you know the performance of 3b mainboards, again compared to an  
intel duo core 2ghz computer? Will 3b mainboards be free software devices?  
Wandboards have vivante gpus. I cannot determine if novena board also has  
vivante gpus. Novena board will get free software 2 and 3d graphic drivers. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Lemote loongson cpus' performance and software?

2014-09-22 Thread Michał Masłowski
I upgraded to a Lenovo X60t (with coreboot and L7400 Core 2 Duo CPU),
it's much faster.

Loongson 3 computers use AMD GPUs which need nonfree software.  Graphics
is slow even with the GPU driver using the nonfree firmware.  Support in
FSF-endorsed distros is mostly dead, mainline kernel support is focused
on Loongson 3B CPU, there isn't much work on support for devices outside
of Lemote's distro.  And currently the laptops are out of stock at
Tekmote; K85.com, the other European distributor, doesn't sell
Loongson 3 computers since they don't like blobs.

Comparing architectures separate from implementations is pointless; MIPS
might have educational advantages while there is much less support for
it in software not focused on routers and other embedded devices.  There
are ARM chips at much lower power usage, and both ARM and x86 have
well-supported standarized SIMD instruction sets needed for tasks like
video decoding.  (They also have English documentation of their
instructions, unlike Loongson which after 2F has only Chinese manuals.)


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Re: [Trisquel-users] Lemote loongson cpus' performance and software?

2014-09-22 Thread adel . afzal
Does Lemote have any relation to Imagination Technologies?  I'm asking in  
relation to Legimet's post here:


https://trisquel.info/en/forum/new-mips-single-board-computer