Re: [Trisquel-users] Miaow - The first Free/Open graphics processor.

2015-09-07 Thread tomlukeywood

"Yet another example of Open doesn't necessarily mean free"

but if you can view the source code it should be easy to make a free version  
of the program?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Miaow - The first Free/Open graphics processor.

2015-09-07 Thread davesamcdxv

Firmware better be vrij.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Miaow - The first Free/Open graphics processor.

2015-09-07 Thread davesamcdxv

Firmware better be Free. vrij. Vry. Libre. You get the idea.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Miaow - The first Free/Open graphics processor.

2015-09-07 Thread davesamcdxv
If they don't release the firmware libre, what are the chances of a  
successful kickstarter (OK we'll need another money-raising scheme, but you  
get the idea) to bribe them into releasing it?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Miaow - The first Free/Open graphics processor.

2015-09-07 Thread commodore256
The license sounds free.  
https://github.com/VerticalResearchGroup/miaow/commit/dafd39709dcc78e2a2c4f643dd7d4e4901219aa4


Also, it is software, Verrlog code is software.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Miaow - The first Free/Open graphics processor.

2015-09-07 Thread zwiebel444
At this point we need hardware developers, and software developers. I don´t  
think, that the firmware will be a problem.

It can´t produce pictures at this point.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Miaow - The first Free/Open graphics processor.

2015-09-06 Thread jabjabs
The commercially available part was a given, the freedoms part actually could  
be an issue seeing as this is based off AMDs open parts.


Yet another example of Open doesn't necessarily mean free. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Miaow - The first Free/Open graphics processor.

2015-09-06 Thread chris
Keep in mind it's not something commercially available and we don't entirely  
know what they mean by "open source". AMD has "open source" graphics chip  
too, but it's not free software.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Miaow - The first Free/Open graphics processor.

2015-09-06 Thread zwiebel444
But because we build the GPU, doesn´t that mean, that we would have to  
develop the firmware?


But seeing, that no one develop it, I think that this thing will be never  
released. What a shame. We have some open CPU´s but no one is building  
them...


Re: [Trisquel-users] Miaow - The first Free/Open graphics processor.

2015-09-06 Thread zwiebel444

https://github.com/VerticalResearchGroup/miaow There is the source code.
http://miaowgpu.org/ Here is the homepage.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Miaow - The first Free/Open graphics processor.

2015-09-06 Thread jabjabs

Text to make it easier for everyone.

"Say Hello to MIAOW, the First Open Source Graphics Processor
By Alexander Hellemans

While open-source hardware is already available for CPUs, researchers from  
the Vertical Research Group at the University of Wisconsin-Madison have  
announced at the Hot Chips Event in Cupertino, Calif., that they have created  
the first open source general-purpose graphics processor (GPGPU).


Called MIAOW, which stands for Many-core Integrated Accelerator Of the  
Waterdeep, the processor is a resistor-transistor logic implementation of  
AMD's open source Southern Islands instruction set architecture. The  
researchers published a white paper on the device.


The creation of MIAOW is the latest in a series of steps meant to keep  
processor development in step with Moore's Law, explains computer scientist  
Karu Sankaralingham, who leads the Wisconsin research group.


“We need innovative new hardware modules, new types of processors, new  
types of hardware accelerators, and so on,” he says. Open source hardware  
represents a promising new avenue. “I envision five, ten years from now  
companies will be leveraging open-source hardware, just like it happened with  
open-source software,” says Sankaralingham. “For  example, Facebook was  
built mainly using PHP. PHP is completely open source. It would be hard to  
imagine that Facebook would have gotten off the ground if PHP wasn't  
there.”


Sankaralingham and his colleagues decided to focus on a graphics processor  
when AMD made the Instruction Set Architecture of one of its graphics  
processors available. Graphics processors are increasingly replacing CPUs for  
number crunching.


“What GPGPUs are good at is using GPU architecture to tackle highly  
computationally intense problems,” says Sankaralingham. “Their  
architectures have two important properties: They provide very high  
performance and they are very power efficient.” Consequently, GPUs will be  
used in, for example, driverless cars, navigation systems, the Internet of  
Things, and deep learning. In all of these environments, there is a big need  
for very high computation speed at low power use, the Wisconsin researcher  
notes.


For now, MIAOW is strictly an academic research project. “One impact it  
will have in my field,” says Sankaralingham, “is that academic  
researchers, who have a very low-level hardware implementation in their  
research, are going to adopt our ideas."


Another important consequence of the group’s work is that it has  
“demonstrated that smart teams can go and build meaningful hardware parts  
that can compete with high-end industrial products.” Sankaralingham says he  
sees his group’s research as a stepping stone to the building of completely  
clean-slate designs that don't rely on any existing commercial products from  
industry. "





[Trisquel-users] Miaow - The first Free/Open graphics processor.

2015-09-06 Thread jabjabs
So this is still in the prototype stage but this is some great news for the  
future of free hardware design.


http://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/semiconductors/processors/miaow-an-opensource-graphics-processor


Re: [Trisquel-users] Miaow - The first Free/Open graphics processor.

2015-09-06 Thread commodore256
That's pretty cool, I just looked it up not even 2 hours before I saw this  
post.