Re: [Trisquel-users] New devices with RYF certificate.

2017-07-04 Thread trisquelforum

Awesome, we've missed this.


Re: [Trisquel-users] New devices with RYF certificate.

2017-07-04 Thread jbahn
Good going and congratulations to all of us. Keep up the hard work,  
liberators of computers everywhere


Re: [Trisquel-users] New devices with RYF certificate.

2017-07-04 Thread info
Technoethical D16 is also RYF-certified by FSF:  
http://www.fsf.org/news/fifteen-new-devices-from-technoethical-now-fsf-certified-to-respect-your-freedom


Following your example, we've reduced the price for our D16 board with  
Libreboot, which now sells at 900 EUR with 1x CPU and 1x RAM. More details  
at: https://tehnoetic.com/tet-D16


/tct


Re: [Trisquel-users] New devices with RYF certificate.

2017-07-04 Thread trisquelforum
The FSF RYF certified Vikings D16 mainboard is now available at a *massive*  
price reduction (400 EUR (VAT excl.)/476 EUR (VAT incl.)) *only* for the next  
50 orders.
Available at:  
https://store.vikings.net/libre-friendly-hardware/d16-ryf-certfied



The Vikings D16 is currently the only high-end, server/workstation-grade x86  
mainboard that is certified with FSF's RYF (Respects Your Freedom)  
certificate (see  
https://www.fsf.org/news/three-devices-from-vikings-gmbh-now-fsf-certified-to-respect-your-freedom).
It comes with absolutely no proprietary software, firmware blobs or  
backdoors, unlike all other x86 server or workstation systems and is  
available with Petitboot (full support for complex peripherals directly from  
the underlying Linux kernel) or Libreboot.


Re: [Trisquel-users] New devices with RYF certificate

2017-03-20 Thread enduzzer

It's a Russian laptop MCST Elbrus HT-R1000. Heavy duty 10 kg.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MCST




Re: [Trisquel-users] New devices with RYF certificate

2017-03-20 Thread vitacell
Man what is that computer? looks like a soviet union military computer for  
nuclear war.


Re: [Trisquel-users] New devices with RYF certificate

2017-03-20 Thread enduzzer

"Utiliarian" is the word in my book (rather than "brutal"").



Re: [Trisquel-users] New devices with RYF certificate

2017-03-20 Thread mcz
I'll add that if this design is good enough for space stations, it's good  
enough for me. Sleek and attractive is about form over function. But I agree  
that before the X230 (not usable in total freedom though), Thinkpads aren't  
very attractive. Still, I've seen way uglier, and not much more attractive  
besides Macbooks Pro (but those look fragile, even with the aluminium. Maybe  
the glass screen. And the price tag).


Some pics to make Thinkpad owners (even) better about it:
http://www.wirefresh.com/images/space-station-10-years-thinkpad-1.jpg

https://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/station/crew-35/hires/iss035e022360.jpg

https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/iss036e039458.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3a/Susan_Helms_works_with_three_laptops_in_the_Destiny_laboratory.jpg


Re: [Trisquel-users] New devices with RYF certificate

2017-03-20 Thread leoo
By the way when you did this to the MacBook, did your Libreboot include this?  
 (Quoted from Libreboot website at  
https://libreboot.org/docs/hcl/#macbook21):


"The system does get a bit hotter compared to when running the original  
firmware. It is certainly hotter than an X60/T60. The heat issues have been  
partially fixed by the following patch (now merged in libreboot):  
http://review.coreboot.org/#/c/7923/.;


Supposedly with this patch to Coreboot (which has now come downstream to  
Libreboot) the maximum temperature is 50 celcius.


Re: [Trisquel-users] New devices with RYF certificate

2017-03-19 Thread jason
"is clunky, ugly design. It's just embarrassing to be seen with such a  
brutally ugly machine."
Maybe it's just me but I think it's a plus. In addition, the scratches and  
dents on my ThinkPad give it character.


Re: [Trisquel-users] New devices with RYF certificate

2017-03-19 Thread vitacell

Hope some day someone release a computer with PowerPC, something like this

http://www.powerpc-notebook.org/en/

eoma68 can be a nice alternative to x86.


Re: [Trisquel-users] New devices with RYF certificate

2017-03-19 Thread calmstorm

I actually like slim ultrabooks. I do use an x200 after all.

:)

But in the future I may get the eoma68. I am not sure yet.


Re: [Trisquel-users] New devices with RYF certificate

2017-03-19 Thread vitacell
The stickers on carbon vinil of T400 are printed by me, not so high quality,  
but enough for keep on the laptop. Thanks you SuperTramp!


Re: [Trisquel-users] New devices with RYF certificate

2017-03-19 Thread greatgnu

Great hobby, keep it up. I love your stickers!



Re: [Trisquel-users] New devices with RYF certificate

2017-03-19 Thread vitacell
Thank you for suggestion, this is just a hobby, my hobby is repair any  
computer or improve it, electronics, soldering, servicing-repairing and  
restoration any size mechanical watches, building electrical generators...(I  
have much more hobbies, just repair/fix/improve everything). Right now I  
messing with Powerbook G4 (yes I love PowerPC machines), which has GPU  
problem, now I couldn't do a the reball for the ATI chip, because my flux is  
complete cheap crap, it boils when I try to soldel the balls, so I waiting  
for original expensive Amtech flux.


All of those hobbies take a lot of time (this is why I don't have much  
friends and a firlfriend :)), and much money buying tools and replacements. I  
bought 3 Macbooks 2,1 and one 1,1. First I polished them all (sand papers and  
car polishing machine), which took to some days to do it, but now all my  
macbooks are clear white and no scratches (it is easy to polish, but remove  
scratches takes a lot time more). One 2,1 I sold to my friend. On the  
modified one I put oficcial GNU sticker for cover crApple logo.


Usually I don't buy big stickers for cover whole laptop, I just cover it with  
my carbon vinile, which is much cheaper. Take a look at some of my  
customizations (see attached photos).


Re: [Trisquel-users] New devices with RYF certificate

2017-03-18 Thread leoo
You should start offering Libreboot enabled MacBooks on eBay.  With your  
modifications it should work well, although I'd make it an option whether to  
remove the DVD-ROM for the extra heat sink or not.


You could even put a decal on the lid with the Trisquel logo on it for the  
Apple logo light to shine through.


First, download the Trisquel logo from here  
https://trisquel.info/files/trisquel.svg


Second, go to this page for a custom laptop skin maker that matches the  
MacBook's size.  (I used a generic template rather than a MacBook one so as  
to not have the cutout for the Apple logo, since we want to cover the Apple  
logo up.)


http://www.skinit.com/create-your-own/custom-skins/laptop/generic/custom-design-generic-13in-12-803in-w-x-8-996in-h-laptop-skin

Third, click the "Upload" icon on the left side of the screen, navigate to  
the Trisquel logo you downloaded, ad upload it into the custom skin designer.


Fourth, click the "Scale -" icon at the bottom of the web page (you may need  
to scroll down to reveal it) enough times to get the logo down to a normal  
size.  The default background color should be white, so you should be already  
set there.


Now you're ready to complete the process and order the skin.

To cover up the word "MacBook" under the screen, I'd recommend putting one of  
the Trisquel logos that has the name of the distro beside it

https://trisquel.info/files/logo.svg
https://trisquel.info/files/logo_big.png?
onto an SD card or USB stick, then print it out on photo paper or card stock  
at a photo place (unless you have a photo printer at home).


Then carefully glue it over the word "MacBook".

Add a Trisquel case badge from here
https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/powered-trisquel-aluminium-case-badge


Cover the iSight camera lens which can't work in freedom
https://www.stickertalk.com/product/53x-white-camera-dots-webcam-lens-and-led-light-cover-privacy-sticker/

And now you've got an attractive product.


Re: [Trisquel-users] New devices with RYF certificate

2017-03-17 Thread vitacell

O the blob runs inside the card, jxself thanks you for this information.


Re: [Trisquel-users] New devices with RYF certificate

2017-03-17 Thread vitacell
Thinkpad T400 it is greatest laptop, and seems be better than T410, T420,  
T430. Just compare heatsinks of each and see. And yes Thinkpads are perfect,  
but Macbooks looks much better. But I hate all slim-light-ultra books crap.


Re: [Trisquel-users] New devices with RYF certificate

2017-03-17 Thread vitacell
It's me, yes, I improved temps. Here is no problem for Macbook when it is on  
idle, the problem is on load (light or heavy as watching 1080 video), when on  
load, now temp are not so high, it runs about 75-80 celcius, but the fan runs  
almost at 7000rpm, it is extremely loud, when T400 runs much cooler and very  
quiet by default. I also added extra copper heatsing and an extra aluminum  
cooler instead of crappy Macintosh dvd-rom.


Re: [Trisquel-users] New devices with RYF certificate

2017-03-17 Thread vitacell
Yes, Libreboot says (or said) that it is is not possible run 3.0 (while  
running free software), this is not true, I run my librebooted computer with  
gigabyte board and 4x3.0 usb ports PCI card, and all my librebooted Thinkpads  
run 2x3.0-3x3.0 usb ports Express54 cards. And personally I send one card for  
Leah. These card are cheap (5-10€ for a unit), just plug it in (when  
computer is not powered on) and nothing more.


Re: [Trisquel-users] New devices with RYF certificate

2017-03-16 Thread calmstorm

I actually prefer that to be frankly honest.

The trackpoint is easier for me.

I use this laptop anywhere I feel like without shame.

It serves my needs quite well.


Re: [Trisquel-users] New devices with RYF certificate

2017-03-14 Thread prian
To each his own. I like the older Lenovo Thinkpads. The keyboard has been  
mentioned, in my mind the "old" models are far superior to the latest models.


I like the overall design of a Thinkpad. Macbooks are nice but they are hard  
to repair which is disproportionately expensive. Upgrades are usually  
difficult. They are more prone to break. Thin is nice but also easy to break.


I find it funny (and odd) that you'd be embarrassed to be seen with such a  
laptop.


I know lots of people with these new and chic laptops. Mostly they only surf  
the internet, watch movies and do office stuff. I also know lots of people  
who don't give a shit about how the laptop looks like. As long as it works.




Re: [Trisquel-users] New devices with RYF certificate

2017-03-14 Thread megver83
yes, I once read that libreboot doesn't support it, but Coreboot does (thanks  
to its blobs)


Re: [Trisquel-users] New devices with RYF certificate

2017-03-13 Thread leoo
The heat issue for the MacBooks sounds legit.  One of the people on this  
forum drilled a big hole in the bottom panel to let the heat out, and expose  
a fan.  I'm not sure if it's an extra fan he put in or just creates more room  
for the fan.


Re: [Trisquel-users] New devices with RYF certificate

2017-03-13 Thread leoo
Coming from the opposite end, I've tried trackpoints and it's more physical  
effort than a touchpad, plus all that effort is concentrated on the index  
finger alone.   


Re: [Trisquel-users] New devices with RYF certificate

2017-03-12 Thread petefrommars
"For Thinkpads just buy a cheap Express54 expansion card with 2-3 3.0 usb  
ports."


Hi, does this work with Libreboot? I didn't think Libreboot has USB 3.0  
support yet?


Re: [Trisquel-users] New devices with RYF certificate

2017-03-11 Thread vitacell
I never tryed better laptops than T400, trackpad is resposible and small  
enough for not touching it when typing on keyboard (I covered all my  
trackspads of all my thinkpads with carbon vinile for not polish them), also  
if you are typing it is faster to use trackpoint. The keyboard is best laptop  
keyboard, except if you pay a 2500$ por a premium workstation modern laptop  
with built-in mechanical keyboard.


Re: [Trisquel-users] New devices with RYF certificate

2017-03-11 Thread vitacell
Just all video acceleration loads on CPU (making the computer slower  
obviously), when GPU is relaxed because it needs blobs.


Re: [Trisquel-users] New devices with RYF certificate

2017-03-10 Thread will . hillnotes
After nearly 20 years of using Thinkpads, I can hardly function with the  
crappy keyboards and touchpads that come with lesser laptops.  I've tried  
using Chromebooks.  The weight difference was negligible the build and  
hardware was wimpy, even compared to an X60.  I missed my trackpoint and  
could barely do basic surfing with the touchpad.


All of that is much less important than firmware freedom.  Modern firmware is  
unacceptably hostile.  Libreboot solves that problem.  


[Trisquel-users] New devices with RYF certificate.

2017-03-10 Thread gderok
Three new devices are now certifed by FSF. First is Vikings X200, second is  
Vikings D16 Mainboard and third is Vikings USB Stereo Sound Adapter.


https://status.fsf.org/notice/209047

https://store.vikings.net/libre-friendly-hardware/d16-ryf-certfied

https://store.vikings.net/libre-friendly-hardware/x200-ryf-certfied

https://store.vikings.net/libre-friendly-accessories/usb-sound-adapter-ryf-certified


Re: [Trisquel-users] New devices with RYF certificate

2017-03-08 Thread megver83
Also, the ASUS Chromebook doesn't have good video acceleration, so you are  
force to use lightweight DEs, if you use them. But I agree with you, a T400  
laptop with Trisquel installed, looks horrible, but a Chromebook with KDE  
Plasma 5, looks awesome. But there's nothing to do, except that you create  
laptops with the same architecture and flash chip libreboot is compatible.


Re: [Trisquel-users] New devices with RYF certificate

2017-03-08 Thread leoo
The primary objection to the Libreboot-enabled Lenovos, aside from dated  
specs, lack of backlit keyboard, lack of trackpad in the X200, and lack of  
USB 3, is clunky, ugly design.  It's just embarrassing to be seen with such a  
brutally ugly machine.


The MacBook 2,1 and the Acer ChromeBook have other flaws not present in the  
Lenovos (the Macbook's webcam won't work in freedom, and the ChromeBook needs  
a wifi dongle), but at least they're sleek and attractive, by comparison.   
There's got to be a market for that, otherwise Purism wouldn't be selling any  
units.


Re: [Trisquel-users] New devices with RYF certificate

2017-03-07 Thread megver83

maybe people do not look for such devices


Re: [Trisquel-users] New devices with RYF certificate

2017-03-07 Thread leoo
There's a cottage industry now of people overhauling Core 2 Duo Lenovos to  
put Libreboot and Trisquel (or another free distro) on them.  Not just  
Libiquity, Technoetic, Minifree and Viking, but they're all over eBay too.


I wonder why nobody's doing the same for the other hardware that is or can be  
made Libreboot compatible, like the MacBook 2,1 and the Acer ChromeBook C201.


Re: [Trisquel-users] New devices with RYF certificate

2017-03-07 Thread calmstorm

It is possible vikings are planning to fork libreboot at some point. :)


[Trisquel-users] New devices with RYF certificate

2017-03-07 Thread megver83

https://www.fsf.org/news/three-devices-from-vikings-gmbh-now-fsf-certified-to-respect-your-freedom

These are 2 libreboot devices. The interesting thing is that is says The  
Vikings X200 libre-friendly laptop is a refurbished laptop that comes with a  
free bios pre-installed and we all know that is libreboot, but doesn't  
specify, but we know why...