Re: [Trisquel-users] Scratch discussion: delete or not?

2016-10-12 Thread jbh . tech
I know this isn't directly related to this post, but is there an Free  
Software alternative to Scratch 1.0 in the repos or available for download  
from somewhere? When I looked in the past, I didn't seem much and Scratch 1.0  
is relatively limited, especially in comparison to 2.0 (or the version on  
MIT's website).


Re: [Trisquel-users] Scratch discussion: delete or not?

2016-10-11 Thread greatgnu

> This is why we need reproducible builds

Exactly, Legimet. Here, if interested -->  
https://wiki.debian.org/ReproducibleBuilds/About


Re: [Trisquel-users] Scratch discussion: delete or not?

2016-10-10 Thread legimet . calc

Why are you using the Internet if it's evil?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Scratch discussion: delete or not?

2016-10-10 Thread legimet . calc

This is why we need reproducible builds: https://reproducible-builds.org/


Re: [Trisquel-users] Scratch discussion: delete or not?

2016-10-10 Thread stas . mihaylenko

The Internet is evil…
Spying, non-free software, addiction and other bad things…


Re: [Trisquel-users] Scratch discussion: delete or not?

2016-10-09 Thread greatgnu

> But can we trust people that created non-free version before?

Hehe, just because you worry I want to make you worry more:

Can you trust the adorable free software that is on your computer? Can you be  
sure that the source code actually represents the executable u run?


The answer is blowing in the NOPE!!

http://www.dwheeler.com/trusting-trust/dissertation/html/wheeler-trusting-trust-ddc.html

be careful, son, who you trust


Re: [Trisquel-users] Scratch discussion: delete or not?

2016-10-08 Thread stas . mihaylenko
Ok, this versions are free. But can we trust people that created non-free  
version before?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Scratch discussion: delete or not?

2016-10-08 Thread stas . mihaylenko

http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.ru.html#Scratch
Remove Scratch versions with this licenses (if exists).


Re: [Trisquel-users] Scratch discussion: delete or not?

2016-10-08 Thread stas . mihaylenko

Wait for my new post.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Scratch discussion: delete or not?

2016-09-22 Thread taknamay
Scratch 1.0 is free. Scratch 2.0 depends on the proprietary Flash (and  
changed its license, no idea if the new license is free). I believe that is  
the subject of this thread.


Of course, 2.0 being nonfree has no bearing on distribution of Scratch 1.0!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Scratch discussion: delete or not?

2016-09-22 Thread dguthrie
Scratch is a programming environment under a free license. It was developed  
by MIT to make kids think like programmers.

I don't know what you are talking about...
I suspect this thread is going to end up like the thing where someone wanted  
to delete libdrm...


Re: [Trisquel-users] Scratch discussion: delete or not?

2016-09-20 Thread stas . mihaylenko

Scratch cat is REMOVED
Project uploading is REMOVED
etc.
from open source (non-free) version.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Scratch discussion: delete or not?

2016-09-20 Thread greatgnu
If you are talking about the package scretch, that is, the "easy to use  
programming environment for ages 8 and up", it is free software under free  
license.


http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//main/s/scratch/scratch_1.4.0.6~dfsg1-5_copyright




Re: [Trisquel-users] Scratch discussion: delete or not?

2016-09-20 Thread stas . mihaylenko

Now, let's start a discussion!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Scratch discussion: delete or not?

2016-09-20 Thread stas . mihaylenko
If someone will support Scratch deleting, I will share this info with another  
free (GNU list) distros.


[Trisquel-users] Scratch discussion: delete or not?

2016-09-20 Thread stas . mihaylenko

Hello everyone. I am returned.
I readed on Wikipedia (Russian) about Scratch licensing. Some code is deleted  
from free version.

Both we have Scratch on FSF Directory and our repos.
We need to delete Scratch in Trisquel 8.0.
But now we can start a discussion about deleting (or not) Scrath from the  
free software.

Offtopic: About "Kirovohrad" in my profile. I didn't like new names.