[Trisquel-users] Skylake Desktop Graphics Test Results

2015-09-03 Thread chris
So we're doing some basic testing of skylake now... read post below for  
details.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Skylake Desktop Graphics Test Results

2015-09-03 Thread chris
Our initial results are interesting. It appears that there is 3D acceleration  
with Skylake on the desktop system we've built using only 100% free software,  
but it's performance is less than that of older Intel chips. I'll update this  
when I know more.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Skylake Desktop Graphics Test Results

2015-09-03 Thread anthk
Can you try it with Parabola or the JXself's kernel repo? Maybe upgrading X  
will be the reason of the bad performance.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Skylake Desktop Graphics Test Results

2015-09-03 Thread chris
We tried it with jxself's kernel on Trisquel 7. I don't know if Parabola  
GNU/Linux-libre has a newer version of X, but it might be something worth  
trying. Bob however thinks it probably won't matter- or make a difference in  
the performance anyway.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Skylake Desktop Graphics Test Results

2015-09-04 Thread davesamcdxv
Note that Skylake's ix-6xxxK's graphics are worse than the ix-5xxxC graphics  
(the "C" was used in Broadwell for a reason). (Of course this doesn't go for  
haswell, etc)


Skylake laptops will probably get better graphics than Broadwell, so yeah  
that'll be interesting.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Skylake Desktop Graphics Test Results

2015-09-04 Thread anthk
Maybe the Xorg driver for Intel could matter a bit, also, MESA GL functions. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Skylake Desktop Graphics Test Results

2015-11-30 Thread julian

Hi!

Chris,

Do you know anything more about Skylake in Trisquel?
Do you recommend buying a processor Skylake or with Haswell?

Thanks!





Re: [Trisquel-users] Skylake Desktop Graphics Test Results

2015-11-30 Thread jadedml

Parabola has newer kernels and a newer version of X.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Skylake Desktop Graphics Test Results

2015-11-30 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp

Just in case you don't know, Trisquel has also newer X available.

https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/installing-latest-backported-kernel-and-xserver


Re: [Trisquel-users] Skylake Desktop Graphics Test Results

2015-11-30 Thread davidvargas1

For laptops

Compare both processors.

 I rather buy a laptop that uses a Broadwell chip that is equal or even  
better than Haswell chip for its ability to stay cool,battery life, etc etc.


Yes, I prefer a desktop for gaming anytime, but a lot of games are playable  
that are using broadwell chips.


compare both specs

http://ark.intel.com/compare/80343,85212

reviews
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2940489/the-truth-about-intels-broadwell-vs-haswell-cpu.html

I hope you make your decision based on your needs and purpose.



Re: [Trisquel-users] Skylake Desktop Graphics Test Results

2015-11-30 Thread davidvargas1

davidnotcoulthard

Skylake is the codename for the IntelĀ® processor microarchitecture that is  
the successor to the Broadwell microarchitecture.


http://ark.intel.com/products/codename/37572/Skylake

Intel's New Skylake Processors: What You Need To Know
http://gizmodo.com/intels-new-skylake-processors-what-you-need-to-know-1728020921

I still love my old  Intel Core i5-3570K Quad-Core Processor 3.4 GHz 4 Core  
LGA 1155 - 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Skylake Desktop Graphics Test Results

2015-12-01 Thread vitacell
For desktop computer, you can get much better GPU that any Intel. And today  
you can buy Nvidia Kepler cheaply. Nouveau with Kepler works like with blob  
(in performance)(you must to switch pstate manually with command).


Re: [Trisquel-users] Skylake Desktop Graphics Test Results

2015-12-01 Thread davesamcdxv

Do all Kepler cards really work now?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Skylake Desktop Graphics Test Results

2015-12-01 Thread vitacell
This is still experimental. When I took gtx650 and later gtx770, I was not  
able to reclock with pstate because it is a experimental feature.


With help of genius "karolherbs" from nouveau irc channel, we could reclock  
both GPU (with same fix/patch), karolherbs patched "nouveau.ko" and I  
compiled it with jxself's kernel 4.3. He patched PCIe 3.0 support too, but no  
difference for me, my board supports 3.0 but not my CPU (i7-2600). Here  
nothing more to fix with Kepler GPUs, cuz it is already runs near blob, not  
100%, but almost.


I tested with much libre games. And sorry, I tested too with some steam  
games, like CS:GO (and more non 2d games, just for test the performance).


The bad thing is, that you must powering on pstates with commands, and it is  
still impossible step from lowest pstate directly to the highest, but yes,  
you can step from highest to lowest one.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Skylake Desktop Graphics Test Results

2015-12-01 Thread davesamcdxv
Doesn't change what I said though (Broadwell was so late that we got  
Haswell-E instead and by the time Broadwell could be launched Skylake was  
looming which probably had to do with Intel sticking the Iris 6200 into it  
which is better than Skylake's desktop iGPU)...


Re: [Trisquel-users] Skylake Desktop Graphics Test Results

2015-12-05 Thread chris
The integrated Broadwell CPUs in small desktops are fine. This is not to say  
all small systems that have integrated Broadwell CPUs are OK. There are I'm  
sure systems with problems out there unrelated to the CPU with many of  
them...


That said I'd stay away from Skylake and Broadwell socketed desktop CPUs for  
now. There are problems with both. Broadwell has stability issues and bugs in  
the CPUs. Skylake isn't supported yet at least without patches, etc.  
Hopefully Intel figures out the issues with the Broadwell socketed desktop  
CPUs sooner than later. It might be better to skip Broadwell and go straight  
to Skylake here although as it's not yet supported its hard to tell.


There might be some issues with Skylake from a libre stand point. I think we  
concluded it's not as bad as we anticipated though. Either there wasn't any  
non-free blobs or they weren't critical or something like that. Though I  
don't remember if it resulted in the loss of power management support or not.  
I think power management still worked. Part of this might be the result of  
the blobs being loaded by the BIOS and the blobs that are loaded by the OS  
are basically optional updates (they could be critical too in theory).