Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquelize linux mint?

2015-11-11 Thread gnuser

I suggest you take a look at this new topic I created:

https://trisquel.info/en/forum/unninstall-all-packages-system-except-seleted-ones-possible

Your suggestions ideas and help would be very welcome and appreciated :)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquelize linux mint?

2015-11-08 Thread jason
vrms is a joke because it's not going to identify all of the non-free things  
that are there because it doesn't even look at everything in the first place  
and even the things it does look at are being judged by different criteria.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquelize linux mint?

2015-11-08 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp

I highly doubt it. Different input, different output.


[Trisquel-users] Trisquelize linux mint?

2015-11-08 Thread shiretoko
I have an old partition containing linux mint. Didn't use it since ages but  
i'm kind of running out of disk space...

can I trisquelize linux mint just like ubuntu?
They have almost the same repos, afaik.
And the version i'm running is rebecca, i.e. trusty .
Can I just replace "trusty" with "belenos" and replace the repo url with  
trisquel's repo?




Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquelize linux mint?

2015-11-08 Thread gnuser
Can't really answer, but I suspect Mint will have proprietary packages that  
trisquelize might not remove. I would recommend running vrms first and  
trisquelize second. Other than that only you will know which undesired  
packages you will have installed in the past. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquelize linux mint?

2015-11-08 Thread gnuser
" The best solution is to nuke the GNU/Linux Mint install and put Trisquel in  
its place."

Agreed.

"vrms is a joke"
I disagree. vrms does one thing and does it right: identify packages that  
come from non-free debian repositories. That is a step forward when trying to  
"clean" a buntu-based system. It's not perfect and people certainly feel  
offended by the use of rms initials, but other than that, vrms is a good  
option to remove some stuff from your machine. Far from being perfect anyway.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquelize linux mint?

2015-11-08 Thread onpon4
Something significant about Mint is that the Mint repositories, unlike  
Ubuntu's, are not segregated based on whether they're free or non-free. So  
that necessarily means that vrms won't work correctly on it. (I think I  
actually tried running vrms on a Mint live CD, and it told me, incorrectly,  
that the system had no proprietary software on it; but don't quote me on  
this, because my memory's fuzzy and I might be thinking of a different  
system.)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquelize linux mint?

2015-11-08 Thread jason
"vrms does one thing and does it right: identify packages that come from  
non-free debian repositories."


And that's *ALL* it does. It might (emphasis added) work okay on Debian but  
you'd figured that anyone enabling their non-free rpeository would know that  
they're installing packages from it. But, as soon as someone branches out and  
installs software from some other repository vrms is clueless


"That is a step forward when trying to "clean" a buntu-based system."

It's made for Debian not buntu. As soon as it's used on a distro other than  
Debian that's added more non-free packages (but didn't update vrms to know  
about them) it'll happily tell someone that their system is free of non-free  
things, and that RMS would be proud, even if that's not the case. So problem  
#1 is that it doesn't identify all non-free things and people rely on it when  
it's not accurate. Problem #2 is it claims to be a Virtual RMS but doesn't  
judge things as he would - i.e. it follows "Debian Free" not "Ubuntu Free" or  
"Fedora Free" or "FSF Free" and so comes to different conclusions about the  
packages it DOES know about as a result. So all in all it's a problem best to  
be avoided.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquelize linux mint?

2015-11-08 Thread commodore256

Mint==Ubuntu with even more non-free software