Re: [Trisquel-users] UK government switches to OpenDocument

2014-02-14 Thread andrew
Sadly, I think forum users need to realise that this has got nothing to do  
with open government, free sdoftware, GNU/Linux etc ... aqnd also that  
the headline on the Register article is misleading.


Francis Maude is a leading Tory MP whos remit at the Cabinet Office is to  
made so-called efficiency savings in the civil service, a code word that we  
all know means cuts.


The document is a *reccomendation* on documents that are exchanged in  
Government, not an actual decision that will start pushing the Govenment  
towards software freedom.


Software and IT provisions/spending government is extremely profitable and  
surrounded by bullshit, corruption and lies. Maybe as part of an efficiency  
campaign, Maude may be going after some of the more outrageous practices,  
but that does not make him a freind of the free software movement.


A former managing director of Morgan Stanley, a director at Asda and at  
Salomon Brothers duing the mid 1990's (not a good time for Salomon), this guy  
is not to be trusted, he's speaking Tory code for cuts and austerity imposed  
because multi-millionaires like him who caused the problems want to keep  
their power and position.


Sorry to be a bit ad hominem, but this guy is not working against the  
corporate machine, he is part of it.


Re: [Trisquel-users] UK government switches to OpenDocument

2014-02-14 Thread LDrumbler
Debian can be fully free, as long as you don't enable the non-free  
repositories.


Re: [Trisquel-users] UK government switches to OpenDocument

2014-02-12 Thread gustavo_cm
If using 4.2 already, just install libreoffice-style-sifr (from  
https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ppa ) and configure LibO to use  
it: Tools - Options - LibreOffice - View - User interface, icons...


I bet that PPA is FaiF; I wouldn't expect TDF to be naughty.


Re: [Trisquel-users] UK government switches to OpenDocument

2014-02-04 Thread arielxgbarton
THE NSA will still be able to infiltrate if they use windows, and changing  
the GNU/linux would be quite a big thing, quite expensive


Re: [Trisquel-users] UK government switches to OpenDocument

2014-02-04 Thread mikko . viinamaki

GNU/linux would be quite a big thing, quite expensive
Yeah, almost as expensive in the short run as not changing and infinitely  
cheaper in the long run.


Re: [Trisquel-users] UK government switches to OpenDocument

2014-02-03 Thread tegskywalker
Hopefully some of that money could go towards updating the ugly and outdated  
interface of LO. I'm not saying to copy MS Office, but at least make it more  
appealing to look at.


Re: [Trisquel-users] UK government switches to OpenDocument

2014-02-02 Thread mikko . viinamaki
Not really, unless they decided to buy German support. I'm sure one can find  
British LibreOffice support if so inclined, much more so if you say here's  
£100,000 for implementing this or that feature. That's one of the major  
perks of free software.


Re: [Trisquel-users] UK government switches to OpenDocument

2014-02-02 Thread leny2010
It's really the fallout of a (IIRC) 2012 consultation on what sort of  
standards the UK Government should use.  FSFE sent a mailing asking people to  
write in.  The conclusion was open standards first.


The UK, like the rest of the EU, has a large part of its private/real economy  
made up of SMEs (Small to Medium Enterprises) and so it's really a no brainer  
on a pork barrel like basis for the UK Government to give UK (and therefore  
EU) businesses a cut of their contract budgets.  Open standards are the only  
way to go if you want to do that.


Besides, with the EU Competition Commissioner investigating Microsoft for  
stacking the committee that voted OOXML a standard, the UK Government was  
unlikely to adopt it.


Another factor is the UK has had stringent cuts and there's nothing like  
being short of the money to throw the economic inefficiency of the  
proprietary software business models into stark relief.  When the cost of  
producing proprietary software is at most 5% of the license fee then their  
business model is so easily open to price competition.


Of course, as RMS is keen to point out, we have to teach economic and other  
convenience converts (e.g. super computers, mainframe, server room / data  
center, and embedded where GNU/Linux is endemic) the meaning of the freedoms.  
 


Re: [Trisquel-users] UK government switches to OpenDocument

2014-02-01 Thread tegskywalker
Hey, as long as they save in ODF and PDF in the ISO standardized PDF/A or  
PDF/X, then I don't care if they use Microsoft Office or not.


Re: [Trisquel-users] UK government switches to OpenDocument

2014-02-01 Thread tegskywalker
If they went with LibreOffice, wouldn't the money be going towards a German  
non-profit? Either way, the money isn't supporting a British company.


Re: [Trisquel-users] UK government switches to OpenDocument

2014-01-31 Thread arielxgbarton

I live in London, UK. I have read this before, it seems great.

A few quotes that I like
lock-in to propriety vendors
Get their work done without having to buy a particular propriety brand.

The next step will be for them to use GNU/Linux. They would probabaly use one  
with lots of propriatory blobs, but that is much better than windows. They  
would probabaly use Ubuntu or Debian.


[Trisquel-users] UK government switches to OpenDocument

2014-01-30 Thread tegskywalker

Big news all around: http://ur1.ca/gj4hk

(I used a shortened URL because this forum hates underscores)