Re: [Trisquel-users] need examples of non-free format abandonment

2014-09-22 Thread shiretoko

Thanks! Didn't find those back when I was looking for a solution.



Re: [Trisquel-users] need examples of non-free format abandonment

2014-09-21 Thread tegskywalker

How about these?

http://www.codealchemists.com/worksdatabaseconverter/

http://www.mydigitallife.info/convert-microsoft-works-database-wdb-to-csv-or-excel-without-works-installed/

https://support.microsoft.com/kb/197894




Re: [Trisquel-users] need examples of non-free format abandonment

2014-09-21 Thread shiretoko

This refers to the works word format, not the database.
In fact, I found quite a few converter for "works word" as well as for "works  
excel", but none for works database.


Re: [Trisquel-users] need examples of non-free format abandonment

2014-09-21 Thread tegskywalker
Fun fact.. documents created in iWork may also embed a PDF version of the  
document which can be extracted. I haven't touched an iWork file since 2010,  
but I remember that option.


Re: [Trisquel-users] need examples of non-free format abandonment

2014-09-21 Thread tegskywalker
What if you use this program in Office 2003 or 2007 and then save in a newer  
format or OpenDocument via a plugin or native support in 2007?


https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=12

FYI this is the other plugin for older Office:  
http://sourceforge.net/projects/odf-converter/


Re: [Trisquel-users] need examples of non-free format abandonment

2014-09-20 Thread andrew
ISTR a web article by an author/writer back in the day about how by the time  
of Office 95 Microsoft had abandoned Word v2 format.  He was annoyed to say  
the least, because as a writer he needed long term access to his text.  
Fortunately he hadn't thrown away the old computer with Word 2 on. He moved  
to ASCII as it was then.  I can't find the article again on a quick search,  
but it might be worth a dig.


You might also try writing to the secretary of your local/regional GUIDE  
(z/OS) and VMSHARE (z/VM) user groups.  Mainframe owners were on the case of  
open formats when I started in software back in '84. Unless they've changed  
lots don't mention W$ to them, it's not polite, generally mainframe people  
hate it with a passion. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] need examples of non-free format abandonment

2014-09-20 Thread tegskywalker
I would say that's an improvement as .doc, .xls, and .ppt were binary and not  
standardized. At least with the new formats, they are XML based and more open  
even if Microsoft doesn't follow the ISO standard.


Re: [Trisquel-users] need examples of non-free format abandonment

2014-09-20 Thread elad

Appleworks is a great example.

The current version of iWork cannot open the older Appleworks format. Older  
versions of iWork that can read them are not available from Apple and may be  
difficult to come by and the PowerPC translation layer, Rosetta cannot be  
installed on OS X Lion and up making it impossible even to use Appleworks  
itself.


There is an article called "Abandoning Appleworks"; I won't link it here as  
it suggests using nonfree software. It does show how much of a headache it is  
to migrate away from Appleworks.


Re: [Trisquel-users] need examples of non-free format abandonment

2014-09-20 Thread shiretoko

Best example: the microsoft works database.

Microsoft works is an old office suite which has been abandoned years ago.
If you have stored all your data in works formats, then good luck trying to  
convert them!

I know that it's pretty hard when it comes to the database files.



Re: [Trisquel-users] need examples of non-free format abandonment

2014-09-20 Thread legimet . calc
Microsoft? They abandoned .doc and switched to OOXML (although .doc support  
is still there)


[Trisquel-users] need examples of non-free format abandonment

2014-09-20 Thread adel . afzal
For example: a non-free software proprietor stops software/security updates  
to old-format, and introduces new-format, to encourage everyone to buy  
new-software.


Links to articles would be great if you know of any.