Re: [Trisquel-users] Azure and WSL version of Trisquel
I agree FREE software is even more important in this day and age and I'm all in 100% using and promoting FREE/GNU software and trying to convert people. Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, September 3, 2019 5:23 PM, wrote: > Considering what Micro$oft has been doing to "Linux" lately through their > "Micro$oft loves Linux" campaign, their takeover of Github and the Linux > Foundation, I don't think that Trisquel or any Free Software project should > help in legitimizing Micro$oft anymore than it has been done in the "open > this or that" realm... > > Maybe I'm wrong, but I am to the point of disagreeing that all software is > beneficial if it is Free Software, because some Free Software is being > created to further the efforts of proprietary project. For instance, > Chromium and Chrome. The Chromium project helps promote the enslavement of > massive amounts of people to Google's surveillance browser Chrome, and now > Microsoft is helping this as well.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Azure and WSL version of Trisquel
> Maybe I'm wrong, but I am to the point of disagreeing that all software is beneficial if it is Free Software, because some Free Software is being created to further the efforts of the proprietary enslavement of the general users. For instance, Chromium and Chrome Chromium is not free software, so we should dispense with that idea. There are several projects to try to strip out all the non-free licensed parts, but it appears to be a Herculean task, as Google has made a nasty tangled licensing mess of that code.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Azure and WSL version of Trisquel
The whole point of Trisquel is to be a 100% libre Debian. Running it in WSL defeats the point. Though I would find it amusing if ReactOS implemented a WSL (or would it be an RSL in this case?) Having a libre NT isn't a bad idea, I suppose you could in theory run 100% libre code on ReactOS. If there were FOSS x4500 drivers for windows server 2003, it could work, but it's not mature in it's development enough for production use.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Azure and WSL version of Trisquel
On 9/4/19, ja...@bluehome.net wrote: > Bradley Kuhn has been talking about the problem of corporate cooption for > some years now. > > https://invidio.us/watch?v=aUy3uVvVsrU > > http://ebb.org/bkuhn/talks/OpenSym-2016/politics.html > > It's good to go look up his various talks and listen to them. Mmm, really nice presentation. I like it. Thanks, Jason.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Azure and WSL version of Trisquel
Bradley Kuhn has been talking about the problem of corporate cooption for some years now. https://invidio.us/watch?v=aUy3uVvVsrU http://ebb.org/bkuhn/talks/OpenSym-2016/politics.html It's good to go look up his various talks and listen to them.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Azure and WSL version of Trisquel
> Maybe I'm wrong, but I am to the point of disagreeing that all software > is beneficial if it is Free Software, because some Free Software is being > created to further the efforts of proprietary project. For instance, > Chromium and Chrome. The Chromium project helps promote the enslavement > of massive amounts of people to Google's surveillance browser Chrome +1 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [Trisquel-users] Azure and WSL version of Trisquel
Considering what Micro$oft has been doing to "Linux" lately through their "Micro$oft loves Linux" campaign, their takeover of Github and the Linux Foundation, I don't think that Trisquel or any Free Software project should help in legitimizing Micro$oft anymore than it has been done in the "open this or that" realm... Maybe I'm wrong, but I am to the point of disagreeing that all software is beneficial if it is Free Software, because some Free Software is being created to further the efforts of proprietary project. For instance, Chromium and Chrome. The Chromium project helps promote the enslavement of massive amounts of people to Google's surveillance browser Chrome, and now Microsoft is helping this as well.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Azure and WSL version of Trisquel
That was my point. :)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Azure and WSL version of Trisquel
+1 El 2/9/19 a les 1:36, calmst...@posteo.de ha escrit: > wouldn't want to give legitimacy to Windows or Azure
Re: [Trisquel-users] Azure and WSL version of Trisquel
For those who (temporarily) cannot completely get rid of Losedows, we can allow them to run part of GNU on Losedows. The FSF official site maintains a list of free/libre software for Losedows. See https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Collection:Windows For Losedows victims, I suggest that they install two software packages. One is KMS activator (fighting against copyright tyranny should never be criminalized), and the other is Cygwin (not WSL).
Re: [Trisquel-users] Azure and WSL version of Trisquel
That really wasn't what I meant... I meant Stallman wouldn't want to give legitimacy to Windows or Azure. Although, you may have a point regardless, maybe this would be a good idea... hmm... Would microsoft block people from using Trisquel in Azure though? hmm... Maybe, although Microsoft could be confident that won't happen regardless of Trisquel being on Azure. I really have no idea. Well, I Guess I might be wrong.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Azure and WSL version of Trisquel
Even then, I don't think Stallman or the trisquel developers would want that. If Microsoft became fully free software and had no propreitary components which is a very crazy stretch of the imagination... Then yes, Trisquel developers would be willing I bet. Again, that's a 0.001 chance of ever happening. perhaps even a complete 0%. The only way that would happen is if one person bought up all the shares and decided to do the unthinkable. But yeah, that's extremely near impossible if not completely impossible.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Azure and WSL version of Trisquel
On 01/09/19 08:33, Егор Гаврилов wrote: > Trisquel developers will make a WSL and Azure version of Trisquel? I am not a Trisquel developer, but the answer is obvious: For WSL: Never, unless Windows NT became Free Software. For Azure: Never, unless Azure became Free Software. -- Ignacio Agulló · grafot...@grafotema.com