Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel's road to the mainstream success
I applied that. I'll have to wait and check when updates are available.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel's road to the mainstream success
Ubuntu software center will be removed in the next release and replaced by Gnome Software. http://www.pcworld.com/article/2974148/software/canonical-is-letting-the-ubuntu-software-center-wither-and-die.html http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/11/the-ubuntu-software-centre-is-being-replace-in-16-04-lts Personally, I'll never have much use for an app center. I use Synaptic or the command line.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel's road to the mainstream success
Ubuntu Software Center has *already* being replaced with GNOME Software in beta releases of Xenial (16.04).
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel's road to the mainstream success
Isn't there a design branch in Trisquel development team? Or how it's development is being handled?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel's road to the mainstream success
If you are talking about general public distribution, out-of-the-box usability for the computer illiterate is probably a must. I'm linux neophyte and want to use Trisquel for ideological reasons, but also because for the most part it is a great, easy to use distro. That said, I have struggled at times, and if I hadn't had the time to educate myself even a little, or had some great support here at the forums, I would have been likely to not use Trisquel. And example is the graphical updater, which doesn't work apparently. That is bad. In no way could I have been able to investigate alternatives and learn the Terminal commands to install updates on my own. Luckily I had the time and inclination to get help. This is just my experience of course. Maybe the new generations will have a basic knowledge of key and terminal commands. But I'm not so sure. Hope that helps. Love Trisquel and want it to grow.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel's road to the mainstream success
So maybe we should have an unofficial competition to redesign some things? For instance we could have people theme specific desktop environments, for example XFCE or GNOME Shell!
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel's road to the mainstream success
I have the same problem. You know why that happens? For some reason, when you open the package updater, it doesn't refresh the package lists (i.e. "apt-get update"), it only looks for updates in the current package lists (i.e. "apt-get upgrade"). Doing "Refresh Package Lists" from "Packages" makes it work.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel's road to the mainstream success
Thank you guys for the news, I haven't heard about that before. That Snappy-system sounds like a good innovation. It's something to consider about. I basically meant just a refined version of Synaptic. For example maybe Ubuntu Software Center -like UI, where you can browse just a normal apps. Then there would be a tab for more low-level stuff, that an ordinary user wouldn't use nor understand. I'm basically brainstorming how to make Trisquel to look cool and more user-friendly. For Trisquel being recognizable brand.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel's road to the mainstream success
Trisquel's Software Updater front-end works just fine in graphical mode as of now. Coincidentally, my Debian Package Updater has quirks -- it never finds any updates while apt-get update/upgrade in the Terminal does.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel's road to the mainstream success
That's why we need the out-of-the-box experience as you said, in order to be the general public distribution. User should be able to use the distro without any terminal command, in my opinion. That's the must for the most ordinary users, who just want to browse the internet and watch the movies etc. That's why Ubuntu is so popular. I have a couple suggestions for Trisquel. Ubuntu has it's Ubuntu software center, which is a easy to use GUI for purchasing and installing the software. Only problem is the proprietary software, that is being promoted by Ubuntu. We in turn, already have the "Add/Remove Application", which is the great starting point. But we should modify it to be more user friendly and easy to use, "Trisquel's Freedom Store" in which developers could upload their piece of software, with or without a price tag. There also should be included the most used applications provided by Trisquel. Another important thing to improve is the "applications startup menu", or whatever you like to call it. What we have at the moment is only the list of different categories whereof user can choose from. What we need is, more like CInnamon-like startup menu, in which you have the greater options and functions. The most important one is the search bar, which helps you to find a specific app or a file from your system. That's the features that many ordinary user's would like to see happen. It would be my pleasure to introduce these kind of ideas to the dev team of Trisquel and maybe to take part to the implementation. Atleast I could do some of it myself and then show it to the devs.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel's road to the mainstream success
Thank you for the comment. I agree that the promoting the distribution is the number one goal. There is of course other things than just a look of the desktop. But it's the issue which, in my opinion, we should give a thought. Beatiful, fine look of the desktop and it's great usability (design) is where it all comes back to, when talking about potential mainstream OS. Ordinary people who just want the out-of-the-box experience, respect the OS which has the good design and a nice look. It is also a good way to get those people, who aren't so familiar with FOSS-movement, involved. We should aim for being the most popular GNU/Linux distro ever, and make sure that all the Linux-beginners find their way up here, instead of those non-free distros like Ubuntu! We should show the world that FOSS can be more than just a good philosophy; That it can be the synonym to quality and beauty besides freedom!
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel's road to the mainstream success
Cuba's Nova 2015 has a revamped Gnome.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel's road to the mainstream success
That kind of idealism we need! Not saying that "Cuba's Nova 2015" is the specific one to go, but that kind of an unique abroach I was talking about. That looks fresh and professional. It signals to the user, that, we are serious about this project taking a ground amongst the world of personal computing. On that kind of unique design abroach, we can build up a stable platform, that can help everyone out there, varying from the computer scientists to the ordinary people, to have the freedom and power off GNU/Linux. And one day, Trisquel has come to what Windows have been for almost 20 years; the most widely used operating system on PC, which defines the software design standards used in gaming industry and all the way to the everyday-software. Then Trisquel will be one of the operating systems preinstalled on every pre-assembled computer!
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel's road to the mainstream success
That would actually be great! (:
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel's road to the mainstream success
I think the logo is pretty unique already. I think it is probably more important to promote the distribution, what it stands for and why people should use it. Ubuntu has a problem with `not invented here': they developed Unity which people did not want or need. The same goes for the Mir display server. I would agree that the icons maybe need to be more consistent though.
